Has anyone used Dive Rite's Hose Clip Retainers?

[Znaught]

Hey everyone,

I'm interested in using Dive Rite's Hose Clip Retainer to secure bolt snaps to my primary, SPG, Goodman handle, etc. Does anyone have any experience with this accessory? Are there any disadvantages to using them in comparison to using cave line? Call me lazy, but I really like the ease of their quick attachment/detachment, as opposed to the more involved process of tying a cave knot.

[buddhasummer]

Hi there, Im a knot tying idiot and dont have any cave line anyway, I use these on my light and SPG and Primary hose, they work well, they do what they are supposed to do, I have no complaints.

[CompuDude]

I've been curious about them, but honestly I don't trust the connection as much as a good cave knot.

The knot is not complicated. The cave line costs pennies... or, for the cost of two of those DiveRight retainers, ($5), you can buy a full spool at a hardware store that will last the rest of your life. It takes a couple of minutes, and you're done with a connection that will be good for YEARS.

How often (if ever) do your bolt snaps need to come off? Do you really want to risk a $4-12 bolt snap with something that could potentially get knocked off, just to save yourself a couple minutes of knot tying?

As intrigued as I am, instinctually, about neat gadgets, I just don't see a place for these on my rig. I want to set my bolt snaps in place ONCE. They really never get moved again... and if I do, again, cave knots really aren't difficult. It's just an overhand knot and a square knot, a couple of loops, and a lighter. If you can't tie a square knot while looking at directions, perhaps diving shouldn't be your sport...

[skdvr]

So what is cave line? I mean how would I know it at a hardware store. What kind of line is it?

Phil

[Znaught]

Hi there, Im a knot tying idiot and dont have any cave line anyway, I use these on my light and SPG and Primary hose, they work well, they do what they are supposed to do, I have no complaints.

buddhasummer, do you trust the manner in which they hold bolt snaps? Do they feel secure? Do you think the jostling that all dive equipment receives could potentially dislodge them?

How often (if ever) do your bolt snaps need to come off? Do you really want to risk a $4-12 bolt snap with something that could potentially get knocked off, just to save yourself a couple minutes of knot tying?

CompuDude, are you certain of the vulnerability of these clips to being knocked off? If so, I'll certainly steer clear of them. My interest in them is principally in regard to how quickly and easily they can be attached, allowing for rapid adjustments in location, as well as allowing for a limited number of bolt snaps to be shared among multiple regulator sets. Tying cave knots isn't a problem. I just thought that rapid attaching/detaching in the field, rather than cutting, tying, and melting knots, would be pretty cool.

[mentalmarine]

When I first looked at that, I thought it was a solution without a problem. It just seems like a waste of money to me. Get some line and throw a snap on it.

[Znaught]

When I first looked at that, I thought it was a solution without a problem.

Wouldn't it be convenient to be able to adjust bolt snap location while all suited up? Imagine being in the water, on the surface or diving, and relocating a bolt snap to a better location. Quick attachment/detachment while in situ I think is the virtue of the device. Whether they actually provide a secure attachment is the real question...

[Dive Rong]

I can't argue with some of the previous comments from more experienced divers. Having said that, I use one on a bolt snap to attach my primary to my BC while snorkling out to a site, and to keep the primary off the seat on a dive boat. Including the bolt snap, the fit is extremely tight on the hose, and there is no way it is going to get knocked off that I can see. The small elastic cord eventually breaking is another issue, but that has not happened to me yet - in short, I like them for what I use them for in a recreational dive profile. - Chris

[Znaught]

Including the bolt snap, the fit is extremely tight on the hose, and there is no way it is going to get knocked off that I can see.

Thanks C_Chris. They're pretty cheap, so if I'm dissatisfied with them I won't be upset with having spent just a few bucks. I think I'll buy a few and try them out.

[CompuDude]

Originally Posted by Znaught

buddhasummer, do you trust the manner in which they hold bolt snaps? Do they feel secure? Do you think the jostling that all dive equipment receives could potentially dislodge them?

CompuDude, are you certain of the vulnerability of these clips to being knocked off? If so, I'll certainly steer clear of them. My interest in them is principally in regard to how quickly and easily they can be attached, allowing for rapid adjustments in location, as well as allowing for a limited number of bolt snaps to be shared among multiple regulator sets. Tying cave knots isn't a problem. I just thought that rapid attaching/detaching in the field, rather than cutting, tying, and melting knots, would be pretty cool.

I've never wanted to move a bolt snap. They tend to attach at the end points, and end points don't really move. I can't conceive of any reason why I would ever want or need to move a bolt snap along a hose, frankly.

I have no idea how well these hold, but looking at photos, they don't seem all that secure. And if they are secure, they're still not AS secure as cave line.

I'm all into gadgets and a better mousetrap. But seriously, I just don't see these as a better mousetrap, because the advantage they offer isn't even remotely important to me, and I have tons of cave line which is free and setting a few feet away from me. And bolt snaps are expensive!

If you want to try them, however, go for it. It's not like they cost a fortune, and it's unlikely they would cause serious injury in a recreational context if you lost a connector because of them. You certainly don't need our permission or blessing. So I hope you enjoy them and feel they were worth the money!

I'll pass, though. Even if someone handed me a pair for free, in which case I'd pass them on or toss them in the save-a-dive kit.