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Old 01-06-2008, 04:12 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm not sure everyone understands what these are. Instead of disconnecting, you slide the black part up and it stops the flow. There is no valve to turn and it's instantaneous. If it slides like I think it will then it would be easier than disconnecting and then if you want to add air you slide it back down momentarily and then back up and you never have to disconnect and still have the ability to add air to you BCD should your inflator stick.

We used to use a similar item in paintball when using a remote hose to a tank on your back and they worked perfectly except you had to use 2 hands because the hose was so flimsy.

I was hoping to find someone who has used one and see how hard it is to slide. If it is like the ones for paintball then I wouldn't get one, but I had about 300 psi running to my gun and these would be at a lower pressure therefore easier to slide.
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Old 01-06-2008, 04:16 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I guess I have no real objection to the hose hats but I still don't see the need. I find my LP hose easy to disconnect as it is.
For warm water diving, the hose-hats aren't needed. I can see advantages when using thick wet gloves or dry gloves.
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Old 01-06-2008, 04:29 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Navy, why do you think these would be better than the ones you used for paintball? Turn or slide, it's still a response you must condition yourself for, as well as problem recognition in the first place.

Disconnecting the LP hose is not difficult to do, and it works guaranteed 100%. No valve to fail.

In the rare event your inflater sticks and you have to disconnect it, you can always inflate orally. You should regularly practice that as well.
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Navy, why do you think these would be better than the ones you used for paintball?
The reason the ones in paintball were hard was the 300psi air you were trying to move the slide against. Here the pressure would be lower therefore easier to slide

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Turn or slide, it's still a response you must condition yourself for, as well as problem recognition in the first place.

Disconnecting the LP hose is not difficult to do, and it works guaranteed 100%. No valve to fail.
It's in the same place as the quick release and the same motion....if I can do one I can do the other. Have you ever checked your QD for air tight integrity when not connected? That can develop a leak just as easily. QD's have O rings just like any other connection.

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In the rare event your inflater sticks and you have to disconnect it, you can always inflate orally. You should regularly practice that as well.
And I do. But I wouldn't have to with one of these unless they both failed.

The biggest reason is I have an AIR2 octo inflator and I don't think I would want to try to reconnect the lp hose if I had to use it if my buddy had a problem and I had to give them my primary. It would give me comfort to know a quick slide and my octo is ready again. Since we would be terminating the dive if they had a problem and we were both breathing off my tank, I would just slide the black valve down and I could breath. just pull my right shoulder dump to get rid of the excess air in the BCD if the inflator is still stuck. It's a very, very, very low probability but I don't want to end a dive if I only have a stuck inflator and have to disconnect which gets rid of my octo too.

I have a job where everything has a back-up, and most of the time the back-up has a back-up. We practice constantly for emergencies and anything that can make things easier/safer we seriously consider using unless the cons outweigh the pros.

I just wanted to see if anybody had used one because it was a great piece of equipment when I used them before, just curoius if they worked as easily as I thought they might in this application.

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It's in the same place as the quick release and the same motion....if I can do one I can do the other.
That's my point, and the "other" doesn't cost $45.

Hey, if you're so convinced then go buy one. I'm just making other new divers aware that they don't need to buy unnecessary gadgets.
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It's in the same place as the quick release and the same motion....if I can do one I can do the other.
That's my point, and the "other" doesn't cost $45.

Hey, if you're so convinced then go buy one. I'm just making other new divers aware that they don't need to buy unnecessary gadgets.
Sorry I was editing my post when you replied.

If I disconnect I lose my Octo because I am using an Air2. I do not want to disconnect with a simple problem like a stuck inflator. It's probably something a lot of people with Combined Octo Inflators may not have thought about and this is a simple fix.
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I wouldn't recommend an octo inflater either.
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I wouldn't recommend an octo inflater either.
Not my question here.
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