Spring fin Straps

[b1draper]

Originally Posted by Super-Duper Scubasteve

I have the twin jets. and I heard they don't take the EZ straps or the tilos ones. I guess I'll probably get the XS scuba universal straps since I did hear the Apollo straps were hard to install unless they already come pre-installed, is that what you mean?

These should work on the "Scuba Pro Twin Jets".
http://www.scuba.com/scuba-gear-113/...trap-Pair.html

[CompuDude]

Originally Posted by Super-Duper Scubasteve

I have the twin jets. and I heard they don't take the EZ straps or the tilos ones. I guess I'll probably get the XS scuba universal straps since I did hear the Apollo straps were hard to install unless they already come pre-installed, is that what you mean?

No, I mean the Apollo's are really expensive. Although it's true that they're harder to install, as well.

Plenty of companies make spring straps that will work with the twin jets, including the EZ Spring Straps. I use the version designed for Jet Fins. (No plastic buckles on those)

Personally, I think the hype and concern over plastic buckles is a little overblown. Is eliminating them safer? Yes. But how often do the buckles break? Since you're usually replacing plastic buckles, the way I see it, you're no worse off than you were with the OEM buckles. And now you have spring straps that are both incredibly easy to doff/don, and the strap portion is far more break-resistant than the original rubber strap, so you're still ahead of the game. Non plastic buckles will be safer still, yes, but for most recreational divers not heading into tech (and you wouldn't be using twin jets in tech, you'd be using jets, which don't use the plastic buckle version anyway), I think they are a big improvement over the original buckles.

[marchand]

I have a set of cressi frog fins, and one of the buckles broke after I had them for 3 (?) years and less than 40 dives.

[fisheater]

Originally Posted by marchand

I have a set of cressi frog fins, and one of the buckles broke after I had them for 3 (?) years and less than 40 dives.

My Cressi Rondine buckle broke on OW checkout dive #4.

Bought Force Fins.

[Super-Duper Scubasteve]

Originally Posted by CompuDude

No, I mean the Apollo's are really expensive. Although it's true that they're harder to install, as well.

Plenty of companies make spring straps that will work with the twin jets, including the EZ Spring Straps. I use the version designed for Jet Fins. (No plastic buckles on those)

Personally, I think the hype and concern over plastic buckles is a little overblown. Is eliminating them safer? Yes. But how often do the buckles break? Since you're usually replacing plastic buckles, the way I see it, you're no worse off than you were with the OEM buckles. And now you have spring straps that are both incredibly easy to doff/don, and the strap portion is far more break-resistant than the original rubber strap, so you're still ahead of the game. Non plastic buckles will be safer still, yes, but for most recreational divers not heading into tech (and you wouldn't be using twin jets in tech, you'd be using jets, which don't use the plastic buckle version anyway), I think they are a big improvement over the original buckles.

Alright, thanks for the advice, I won't go with the Apollos. Thank you B1draper for the link the EZ straps, I actually never would have found those. Great input, thanks a bunch.

[buddhasummer]

I have cressi Frogs buckle broke after about 15 dives, replaced them with the Apollo springs, had to cut off the posts and drill a couple of holes, not too difficult...love them so much easier..and yeah I dont know why they havent become industry standard so much better in every possible way...I have never seen or heard anyone who has the springs complain and/or go back to those PIA buckle straps...

[CompuDude]

... and the lesson to be learned thus far in this thread: Cressi makes terrible buckles.

LOL

[skdvr]

You can save a few more bucks and go here. They are a good company that I have bought a good bit of stuff from. Much better than scuba.com in my opinion.

Phil

[CompuDude]

Originally Posted by skdvr

You can save a few more bucks and go here. They are a good company that I have bought a good bit of stuff from. Much better than scuba.com in my opinion.

Phil

Dive Sports is probably my second favorite online scuba store (after ScubaToys, of course). Great shop. And the owner, Phil, is a nice guy... hey!

That's where I bought my straps, too. ScubaToys now carries some better options than they did before, though, so I try to recommend their straps when it makes sense.

[buddhasummer]

Originally Posted by CompuDude

... and the lesson to be learned thus far in this thread: Cressi makes terrible buckles.

LOL

yes,