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RikRaeder
03-28-2008, 07:55
Can anyone please help me out. Saw a very large (90kg) Napoleon fish the other day, but can't find it in my fish book. Are there any other common names, or does anyone know the scientific name for these fish? Thanks.

mocepts
03-28-2008, 08:16
Could this be it?

Humphead wrasse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphead_wrasse)

DevilDiver
03-28-2008, 08:20
Possible? Need more info for positive ID....

Order: Perciformes(perch-likes)
Class: Actinopterygii (ray-finned fishes)
FishBase name: Humphead wrasse
Max. size: 229 cm SL (male/unsexed; Ref. 9823); max. published weight: 191.0 kg (Ref. 9710); max. reported age: 32 years
Environment: reef-associated; marine; depth range 1 100 m Climate: tropical; 30N - 23S
Importance: fisheries: minor commercial; aquaculture: commercial; gamefish: yes; aquarium: commercial; price category: very high; price reliability: very questionable: based on ex-vessel price for species in this family
Resilience: Low, minimum population doubling time 4.5 - 14 years (tm = 5-7; tmax = 32)Vulnerability: Very high vulnerability (85.86), based on Lmax and K (Ref. 59153 (http://www.fishbase.org/References/FBRefSummary.cfm?ID=59153)) Distribution:
Gazetteer (http://fat-albert.alexandria.ucsb.edu:8827/gazetteer/) Indo-Pacific: Red Sea to South Africa (Ref. 35918) and to the Tuamoto Islands, north to the Ryukyu Islands, south to New Caledonia. Formerly known as Vulnerable (A1d+2cd) (Y. Sadovy) but now listed as Endangered in IUCN 2004 and listed in Appendix II of CITES. Morphology: Dorsal (http://www.fishbase.org/Glossary/Glossary.cfm?termEnglish=dorsal fin) spines (http://www.fishbase.org/Glossary/Glossary.cfm?termEnglish=spine) (total): 9 - 9; Dorsal (http://www.fishbase.org/Glossary/Glossary.cfm?termEnglish=dorsal fin) soft rays (http://www.fishbase.org/Glossary/Glossary.cfm?termEnglish=soft ray) (total): 10 - 10; Anal (http://www.fishbase.org/Glossary/Glossary.cfm?termEnglish=anal fin) spines (http://www.fishbase.org/Glossary/Glossary.cfm?termEnglish=spine): 3; Anal (http://www.fishbase.org/Glossary/Glossary.cfm?termEnglish=anal fin) soft rays (http://www.fishbase.org/Glossary/Glossary.cfm?termEnglish=soft ray): 8. Adults of this species develop thick lips and a prominent bulbous hump on the forehead. Juveniles pale greenish with elongate dark spots on scales tending to form bars; 2 black lines posteriorly from eye (Ref. 4392). Biology: Inhabit steep outer reef slopes, channel slopes, and lagoon reefs (Ref. 1602). Engybenthic at 2-60 m (Ref. 58302). Usually solitary but may occur in pairs. Juveniles are encountered in coral-rich areas of lagoon reefs, where staghorn Acropora corals abound (Ref. 1602); also in algae reefs or seagrasses (Ref. 48636, 41878). Adults rove across the reefs by day and rest in reef caves and under coral ledges at night (Ref. 31343). Primary food are mollusks, fishes, sea urchins, crustaceans, and other invertebrates. One of the few predators of toxic animals such as sea hares, boxfishes and crown-of-thorns starfish (Ref. 1602). Found in Hong Kong live fish markets (Ref. 27253). Red List Status: Endangered (EN) (http://www.redlist.org/search/details.php?species=4592) (A2bd+3bd), IUCN Grouper and Wrasse Specialist Group (http://www.hku.hk/ecology/GroupersWrasses/iucnsg/index.html)(Ref. 57073) Dangerous: reports of ciguatera poisoning , Gomon, M.F. and J.E. Randall. 1984 (http://www.fishbase.org/References/FBRefSummary.cfm?ID=5374&speccode=5604) Coordinator: Westneat, Mark (http://www.fishbase.org/Collaborators/CollaboratorSummary.cfm?ID=154) Main Ref: Randall, J.E., G.R. Allen and R.C. Steene. 1990. (Ref. 2334) (http://www.fishbase.org/References/FBRefSummary.cfm?ID=2334&speccode=5604) Update (http://javascript<b></b>:document.fn.submit()) | Add (http://www.fishbase.ph/remotedataentry/search/summary/AddRecord.cfm?StockCode=5896&speccode=5604&Genus=Cheilinus&Species=undulatus) | Get XML file (http://fishbase.sinica.edu.tw/webservice/Species/SpeciesSummary.asp?Genus=Cheilinus&Species=undulatus) | Point data in XML (http://fishbase.sinica.edu.tw/webservice/Occurrence/PointData.asp?Genus=Cheilinus&Species=undulatus) | Common names in XML (http://www.fishbase.org/webservice/ComNames/comnamesxml.php?Genus=Cheilinus&Species=undulatus&type=) | Photos in XML (http://www.fishbase.org/webservice/Photos/FishPicsList.php?Genus=Cheilinus&Species=undulatus&type=)

RikRaeder
03-31-2008, 05:41
That looks like the one. Thanks folks.

scubasavvy
04-01-2008, 13:23
Aka Cheilinus undulatus