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dutchman
04-19-2008, 19:57
Anyone at CSSP or Athens today or tomorrow?
What areconditions? :smiley20:
Thanks

mitsuguy
04-19-2008, 21:42
nope... comal tomorrow... canyon lake this morning...

dutchman
04-20-2008, 10:05
nope... comal tomorrow... canyon lake this morning...

Where is Canyon Lake and what are conditions like?:smiley36:

mitsuguy
04-20-2008, 17:26
nope... comal tomorrow... canyon lake this morning...

Where is Canyon Lake and what are conditions like?:smiley36:

North Park, Canyon Lake...

max depth we saw was 108 feet, but it does get down to 130ish out there somewhere... Water temp was 66-68 degrees down to 50', then 58-59 degrees below 50'... Vis was about 6-8 feet at first, but when all 5 of us were searching for a platform out there, we mucked it up so bad all 5 of our lights (three HID's, two hand helds) only made a dull glow...

Anyways, there are a couple training platforms out there, two at about 25 feet, then two more that we just found, one at 85-90 feet and one at 105... I didn't go back yesterday, but two guys did go in search of the two that are deeper, with plans of tagging it and running line between the two at higher levels and them... the two at higher levels have line run between them already, and line between a few other things out there...

To dive there, they require you rent a campsite, only a couple bucks, but a minor pain... then, its 10 people per campsite, and only two cars per campsite... I marked on the Google Earth attachment where we get in the water at... Then, swim towards the water intake plant - the thing sticking out from the dam east of the marked point... The first platforms are about 30 - 40 yards out...

I also included a dive profile...

mitsuguy
04-20-2008, 17:30
We dove the Guadalupe this morning actually... little bit different dive than the Comal, 71 degrees water temp... we followed the current and it was 35 minutes where we went... Another diver spent a little more than an hour in the same spot swimming against the current and looking around more...

mm_dm
04-21-2008, 07:35
Cody, you're being too modest. You dove Thursday eve in the Comal, nailed down two dives Saturday at Canyon with us and squeezed in another dive Sunday am on the Guadalupe. That's hardcore brother:smiley32::smiley32:

mitsuguy
04-21-2008, 09:02
Heh, eric and I really did 3 dives saturday - the middle dive was to recover my soft weights I left on the platform before those classes made it out there and stole thyem... 8 minutes out and back... :)

TxScubaBear
04-22-2008, 17:05
from the CSSP site

15-25 vis. 60-65 degrees to about 25 feet then around 50-55 degrees. as of the 20th

dutchman
04-22-2008, 17:11
from the CSSP site

15-25 vis. 60-65 degrees to about 25 feet then around 50-55 degrees. as of the 20th

Are they (CSSP) open during the weekday?

TxScubaBear
04-22-2008, 17:16
Think they're still in Winter hours- closed weekdays,
Winter hours of operation
Saturday 9:00am till dark
Sunday 9:00am to 6:00pm

I'm gonna email them and see when "summer hours" begins

TxScubaBear
04-23-2008, 06:03
Got a reply this AM- they are IN Summer hours now!

They started April 4 so grab you gear and come on!!
Dive Safe

Tim

Summer hours of operation
Friday 10:00am to 8:00pm.
Saturday 8:00 am to 8:00pm
Sunday 8:00am to 7:00pm

dutchman
04-23-2008, 08:54
Got a reply this AM- they are IN Summer hours now!

They started April 4 so grab you gear and come on!!
Dive Safe

Tim

Summer hours of operation
Friday 10:00am to 8:00pm.
Saturday 8:00 am to 8:00pm
Sunday 8:00am to 7:00pm

Wish they were open during the week. Guess there are not enough of us retired divers around to justify. :smiley29:

TxScubaBear
04-23-2008, 12:32
What's a good thickness suit to wear when the water is bouncing around the 60's like it is...I'm thinking 5mm? Not sure, 'tis why I'm asking....need to purchase one at ST and wanna be sure I don't go too heavy.

mitsuguy
04-23-2008, 13:44
I dive a 4/3 in 70 degree water and I've been warm even... This past saturday, I wore a 2 mil shorty underneath it and was fine for a while, then on the last dive, I started getting chilly at 58 degrees... Above the thermocline, at 66, I was good too... Sooooo... With all that being said, I would say a 5 mil would be fine if you stay above 60 degrees...

mm_dm
04-24-2008, 12:40
Weather is supposed to hold for anyone hitting the Comal tonite. Danny and I are going back up to Canyon Saturday am- weather permitting. There's a front heading in late Friday, so we'll see.

mitsuguy
04-24-2008, 12:43
Weather is supposed to hold for anyone hitting the Comal tonite. Danny and I are going back up to Canyon Saturday am- weather permitting. There's a front heading in late Friday, so we'll see.

I wish I didn't have to work saturday, else I'd be tagging along... I am planning on going tonight, gonna call Art here in a little bit...

mitsuguy
04-24-2008, 15:23
Weather is supposed to hold for anyone hitting the Comal tonite. Danny and I are going back up to Canyon Saturday am- weather permitting. There's a front heading in late Friday, so we'll see.

I wish I didn't have to work saturday, else I'd be tagging along... I am planning on going tonight, gonna call Art here in a little bit...

yup, just talked to Art... at least one other person has already called about going tonight... upper comal this time...

mitsuguy
04-25-2008, 08:13
Upper Comal dive rocks... spent an hour and 25 minutes underwater, and saw a ton of wildlife... 3 huge turtles, one small, a bunch of good sized fishies (I don't know the different names), a TON of crawfish... awesome night dive overall...

mm_dm
04-25-2008, 08:22
Alot of folks prefer the Lower, but I've always liked the Upper better and yeah, there a some HUGE turtles up there. Glad it worked out! Here's hoping this front doesn't ruin it for me tommorrow.

Scout
04-25-2008, 12:40
Can you guys tell me your entrance and exit points for the "upper" and "lower" comal trips?

Last time I dove there, we started at the end of the sidewalk in Prince Sohm Park and came out just short of the tube chute. This was a VERY quick dive and I'd like to extend it next time, if possible.

mitsuguy
04-25-2008, 14:25
When I get home, I'll chart them on google earth...

TxScubaBear
04-25-2008, 14:27
Super! Appreciate that!

mitsuguy
04-25-2008, 20:26
here ya are...

upper comal, you enter on the east bank of the river - you can see the pipe that feeds the comal pouring water out crazy like... currently 400 cubic feet per second worth of water...

You have to enter through the campgrounds, I can't recall the name there though...

when you enter, you want to swim across the current to the opposite bank and stay along the west side wall for most of the dive - this is where all the cool stuff is hiding - most of it in and on the wall... the current out in the middle is crazy for a while and not worth trying to swim against... a little ways down, it slacks up, but stays in the 2-3 knot range...

exiting, you exit on the north bank - there are steps, but be careful - they are covered in slimy stuff and very slippery...


lower comal, you enter down the stairs by the garden street bridge... exit at the last tubers exit by Schlitterbahns on Union & Lincoln St. The lower Comal is perfect if you don't have anyone to pick you up - you can park along Lincoln, and it's only 1/4 mile total walk round trip...

mitsuguy
04-25-2008, 20:33
I might add that both dives average about an 1:15 to 1:30, but it mainly depends on how long you want to stay... I spent a lot of time out in the current, swimming against, finding places where the current slacks up to explore... One of the guys spent 3 hours underwater on one dive...

Air goes forever too - even with finning against the current, I started out with 3500 psi in a steel HP 80, and still had about 1000 left after an hour and twenty five minutes...

TxScubaBear
04-26-2008, 06:53
I might add that both dives average about an 1:15 to 1:30, but it mainly depends on how long you want to stay... I spent a lot of time out in the current, swimming against, finding places where the current slacks up to explore... One of the guys spent 3 hours underwater on one dive...

Air goes forever too - even with finning against the current, I started out with 3500 psi in a steel HP 80, and still had about 1000 left after an hour and twenty five minutes...

:icon_eek:

using air or Nitrox?
man, that's some good stats either way!

mitsuguy
04-26-2008, 06:55
I might add that both dives average about an 1:15 to 1:30, but it mainly depends on how long you want to stay... I spent a lot of time out in the current, swimming against, finding places where the current slacks up to explore... One of the guys spent 3 hours underwater on one dive...

Air goes forever too - even with finning against the current, I started out with 3500 psi in a steel HP 80, and still had about 1000 left after an hour and twenty five minutes...

:icon_eek:

using air or Nitrox?
man, that's some good stats either way!

air...

mm_dm
04-29-2008, 07:45
Looks like Danny, Jerry and I are headed back up to El Canyon Saturday.

mitsuguy
04-29-2008, 07:52
Looks like Danny, Jerry and I are headed back up to El Canyon Saturday.

Unfortunately, as I expected, I have to work on saturday...

I will be going thursday night, weather permitting, and also sunday morning, weather permitting.

I am sooooo pissed about this past sunday.... the weather guys didn't even come close - it was beautiful sunday, a tad windy starting around noon, but not a drop of rain, and definitely no severe storms... well, at any rate... wish I could go saturday too... probably be next week or the week after before I can do that...

mm_dm
04-29-2008, 09:29
Looks like Danny, Jerry and I are headed back up to El Canyon Saturday.

Unfortunately, as I expected, I have to work on saturday...

I will be going thursday night, weather permitting, and also sunday morning, weather permitting.

I am sooooo pissed about this past sunday.... the weather guys didn't even come close - it was beautiful sunday, a tad windy starting around noon, but not a drop of rain, and definitely no severe storms... well, at any rate... wish I could go saturday too... probably be next week or the week after before I can do that...

Yeah, there was that group from A&M that was camping on the Comal (man, that sounds nice) that split early because of the weather report. I think it's going to be a dry year for San Antone and I'm taking the rain reports with a grain of salt from here on out. I'll have to see it before I make other plans, ya know?

TX1Chica
04-29-2008, 09:38
How long do you think it will take CSSP to get to the mid 70's?

TxScubaBear
04-30-2008, 17:07
Hopefully not too long, I'm ready!!
From CSSP condition message board: "We dove on 4-26-08 and 04-27-08 the water temp was around 60 deg."

mm_dm
05-01-2008, 08:32
It must be a dive day...the clouds are rolling in...

mitsuguy
05-01-2008, 08:54
Tell ya what... The gods have it in for me and diving... I've got some new boots I wanna use, new mask strap, and a crotch strap I want to try out....

Oh well... At least the weather people say its gonna clear up today

mm_dm
05-02-2008, 07:45
Jerry went up to Canyon yesterday and found the deep platform, which he set upright. Then, he ran a line from Jay Smartdivers' tie off at the stump over to the platform, so now it's all marked out and maybe we can even get the original buoy back in operation. At least now we have a base from which we can continue our search for the weapons of mass destruction. :smiley36:

mitsuguy
05-02-2008, 08:14
Jerry went up to Canyon yesterday and found the deep platform, which he set upright. Then, he ran a line from Jay Smartdivers' tie off at the stump over to the platform, so now it's all marked out and maybe we can even get the original buoy back in operation. At least now we have a base from which we can continue our search for the weapons of mass destruction. :smiley36:

kick ass... Art was telling me someone else found the other platform down there at 90 feet and has it marked on a map / gps now too, with a reference from the entry point stump... I didn't get numbers solely because I wouldn't remember, but ask Art...

Had a good dive at the upper comal last night... Had some buoyancy issues (started with 8, couldn't get down, got 4 more, then lost 6, and 6 lbs was enough even for the end of the dive, so I must have had an air pocket somewhere to start that I couldnt get out) - ended up losing a weight pocket due to my dumbass not getting it latched right, but I got to try out the crotch strap and some new boots, and I took my camera... I can't believe how good of pictures I get out of a cheap Canon digital, with nothing other than my LED light and the internal flash...

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i117/samitsuguy/scuba/th_IMG_0343.jpg (http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i117/samitsuguy/scuba/IMG_0343.jpg)
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Enjoy:

mitsuguy
05-02-2008, 08:19
Hopefully not too long, I'm ready!!
From CSSP condition message board: "We dove on 4-26-08 and 04-27-08 the water temp was around 60 deg."

You need to come do the Comal... 72-73 degrees, hour and a half drift... nice, easy, relaxing dive, and not cold... did I mention it wasn't cold?

mm_dm
05-02-2008, 13:36
Jerry went up to Canyon yesterday and found the deep platform, which he set upright. Then, he ran a line from Jay Smartdivers' tie off at the stump over to the platform, so now it's all marked out and maybe we can even get the original buoy back in operation. At least now we have a base from which we can continue our search for the weapons of mass destruction. :smiley36:

kick ass... Art was telling me someone else found the other platform down there at 90 feet and has it marked on a map / gps now too, with a reference from the entry point stump... I didn't get numbers solely because I wouldn't remember, but ask Art...

Had a good dive at the upper comal last night... Had some buoyancy issues (started with 8, couldn't get down, got 4 more, then lost 6, and 6 lbs was enough even for the end of the dive, so I must have had an air pocket somewhere to start that I couldnt get out) - ended up losing a weight pocket due to my dumbass not getting it latched right, but I got to try out the crotch strap and some new boots, and I took my camera... I can't believe how good of pictures I get out of a cheap Canon digital, with nothing other than my LED light and the internal flash...

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i117/samitsuguy/scuba/th_IMG_0343.jpg (http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i117/samitsuguy/scuba/IMG_0343.jpg)
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Enjoy:

Nice pics! We can get up to the river before long and do a search for your weight pocket. Those suckers can get pricey.

mitsuguy
05-02-2008, 20:35
Nice pics! We can get up to the river before long and do a search for your weight pocket. Those suckers can get pricey.

I had been meaning to order a pair as backups... my wifes and my bc both take the same pockets, so it'll be nice to have an extra... problem is, I know exactly what I did... it didn't get snapped into place... left behind a 4lb and a 2 lb weight too though...

mitsuguy
05-03-2008, 21:38
sunday 5/4 - canyon lake....

mm_dm
05-04-2008, 15:25
Danny and I got in two dives on Saturday, max depth 115. Jerry's line didn't go to the deeper platform, it's over to the one at 85 feet. Danny and I shot a bag from it the second dive and Jerry put his GPS in a dry bag and surfaced out to the bag and set the location on the GPS. He's going to super-impose it on a topo map of the lake along with the other platforms and make any minor adustments as to location. This is what happens when you invite a former artillery officer along and combine with bored tech divers. Within a short time, we'll be able to accurately bomb Canyon Lake...should the need arise. :smiley36:

mitsuguy
05-04-2008, 16:46
Danny and I got in two dives on Saturday, max depth 115. Jerry's line didn't go to the deeper platform, it's over to the one at 85 feet. Danny and I shot a bag from it the second dive and Jerry put his GPS in a dry bag and surfaced out to the bag and set the location on the GPS. He's going to super-impose it on a topo map of the lake along with the other platforms and make any minor adustments as to location. This is what happens when you invite a former artillery officer along and combine with bored tech divers. Within a short time, we'll be able to accurately bomb Canyon Lake...should the need arise. :smiley36:

Hah....

I found the line tied to the 85' platform this morning.

Followed it, got to the platform, but the two I was with were pretty chilly, so we went back up to the medium temperature... Got 3 dives in, had a good time, even learned myself how to manage a reel / SMB...

mm_dm
05-05-2008, 07:44
Danny and I got in two dives on Saturday, max depth 115. Jerry's line didn't go to the deeper platform, it's over to the one at 85 feet. Danny and I shot a bag from it the second dive and Jerry put his GPS in a dry bag and surfaced out to the bag and set the location on the GPS. He's going to super-impose it on a topo map of the lake along with the other platforms and make any minor adustments as to location. This is what happens when you invite a former artillery officer along and combine with bored tech divers. Within a short time, we'll be able to accurately bomb Canyon Lake...should the need arise. :smiley36:

Hah....

I found the line tied to the 85' platform this morning.

Followed it, got to the platform, but the two I was with were pretty chilly, so we went back up to the medium temperature... Got 3 dives in, had a good time, even learned myself how to manage a reel / SMB...

3 dives...sweet! I think we had 56 degrees at the platform. Since the water above is 66-68 it really is a contrast to hit the thermocline...boy, just wait another month. Jerry left some line at the tie off on the stump and Danny and I left some line on the platform that we need to police on the next visit. Danny and my line was from shooting the bag, but Jerry's comes with a little story- next time I see ya.

mitsuguy
05-05-2008, 08:33
3 dives...sweet! I think we had 56 degrees at the platform. Since the water above is 66-68 it really is a contrast to hit the thermocline...boy, just wait another month. Jerry left some line at the tie off on the stump and Danny and I left some line on the platform that we need to police on the next visit. Danny and my line was from shooting the bag, but Jerry's comes with a little story- next time I see ya.

Interesting, you will definitely have to enlighten me... lol....

yah, I saw 67 degrees up top, and 57 degrees on the 85' platform... after being down deep and coming back, it really felt quite warm :)

Oh, it looks like the wife and I are doing our Nitrox course next week most likely, and I'm 98% sure on June 21st Texas Clipper...

mm_dm
05-06-2008, 07:33
3 dives...sweet! I think we had 56 degrees at the platform. Since the water above is 66-68 it really is a contrast to hit the thermocline...boy, just wait another month. Jerry left some line at the tie off on the stump and Danny and I left some line on the platform that we need to police on the next visit. Danny and my line was from shooting the bag, but Jerry's comes with a little story- next time I see ya.

Interesting, you will definitely have to enlighten me... lol....

yah, I saw 67 degrees up top, and 57 degrees on the 85' platform... after being down deep and coming back, it really felt quite warm :)

Oh, it looks like the wife and I are doing our Nitrox course next week most likely, and I'm 98% sure on June 21st Texas Clipper...

Same here with the Clipper, I just have to have the money in by the 21st of this month to hold a spot. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help with the Nitrox class. Did you get a chance to finish up your other class?

TxScubaBear
05-07-2008, 20:16
Someone have a link for the Clipper dive? I'm gettin' the itch awful bad here lately....

mitsuguy
05-07-2008, 20:49
The Texas Clipper : American Diving (http://www.divesouthpadre.com/texasclipper.html)

mm_dm
05-08-2008, 12:22
I'm in dry-dock this weekend, doing projects for Mother's Day. Somebody get a dive in and tell me how great it was.

mitsuguy
05-08-2008, 12:29
I'm in dry-dock this weekend, doing projects for Mother's Day. Somebody get a dive in and tell me how great it was.

yah, I can't go tonight - the wife and I have matching days off for once... then sunday, well, we'll see... my mom is in Missouri, so, nothing for me to do there, however, the wifes mom is here, so, we shall see...

mm_dm
05-08-2008, 12:36
I'm in dry-dock this weekend, doing projects for Mother's Day. Somebody get a dive in and tell me how great it was.

yah, I can't go tonight - the wife and I have matching days off for once... then sunday, well, we'll see... my mom is in Missouri, so, nothing for me to do there, however, the wifes mom is here, so, we shall see...

Don't worry, I'm sure the two of them have it all figured out. I'm sure my mother in law will be in the picture at some point and I'll find out when I need to know. Right now, I don't need to know.

Signed,
Clueless in San Antonio

TxScubaBear
05-08-2008, 15:13
Thanks for the link!