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bates28
04-27-2008, 19:53
I have been diving about 8 times. Each time i have problems equalizing one ear and today both ears. I blow gently then it takes me so long to go down. then after the dive i come up spitting out blood
does anyone know if sometimes if this is common or a better way to use val salva, also the websites say to close your mouth but how do you close your mouth with the regulator in do you take it out?

ratown
04-27-2008, 20:02
My friend had this same problem when she got certified. It took her forever to go down and she got nose bleeds afterwards. The day after the last open water dive her ears were in a ton of pain so she went to the doctor. She had a double ear infection. Her doctor said it happens. Our DM said that you just have to get used to it...

imasinker
04-27-2008, 20:29
I would go to a ear nose and throat specialist. Get a check up with them as they can look at the sinus areas and perhaps you have a perferated ear drum, ear infection, sinus infection (blocked sinus cavities)so forth. Best be sure and know ahead of time. If your having a hard time equalizing you don't want to further damage or risk severe damage. Spitting up blood doesn't sound good to me. Make sure you tell your doctor what it is your doing (scuba diving). Good Luck

bates28
04-27-2008, 20:37
what kind of dr. would i have to see?

mitsuguy
04-27-2008, 20:38
practice... do it on dry land... all the time... i can sit here on the couch, typing, watching tv, and adjust my jaw and hear my ears pop... I can also do the pinch and blow method too just sitting here...

luckily, I've always been able to do it, semi-subconsciously...

you may have and underlying problem - as recommended, some doctors advice and inspection won't hurt...

FishFood
04-27-2008, 20:38
what kind of dr. would i have to see?

Like imasinker said, go see an "ENT" - Ear, Nose, & Throat specialist. And quickly too...!

mitsuguy
04-27-2008, 20:39
what kind of dr. would i have to see?

ENT - ear nose throat specialist

mitsuguy
04-27-2008, 20:41
oh, as far as closing your mouth - obviously not possible with a reg stuck in there... use your tongue against the palette (upper part) of your mouth... thats how I get it to close enough to work...

Tom A
04-27-2008, 21:08
some times i have to bob to get down

fisheater
04-27-2008, 21:10
Watch the DAN ear video and try other equalization methods.

Unless you have some weird anatomical anomaly, you will figure out how you can equalize YOUR ears. Everyone is different.

frogman159
04-27-2008, 22:08
helps me if I do a quick valsalva then swallow after.

mixahl
04-27-2008, 22:16
swallowing usually does it for me

Penguino
04-27-2008, 22:19
I had a nosebleed, and so did my instructor on my checkout dives. Granted they were not bad, but he said it was normal due to the cold. The cold water causes them to contract, and then your breath expands them so fast that they break and bleed. He did not seemed concerned about a minor nosebleed. If it is worse than that then I echo the others: see a doctor.

beluga
04-27-2008, 22:40
My personal experience is that pinch, blow a little, keep pinching, breathe, keep pinching, swallow works a lot better than just pinch and blow.

I get nosebleeds all the time in winter (approximately once a week). My nasal lining is very prone to drying out and getting torn. I noticed that nosebleeds usually happen to me when I push up on the nostrils (from blowing with tissues).

When diving, I pinch high up on the nose and apply gentle pressure inwards and downwards. Combined that with generally a more moist environment, I haven't had a nosebleed diving yet.

skippy11
04-27-2008, 23:50
My husband was having lots of problems w/ his ears, too. He went to an ENT and they pulled a bunch of junk out of his ears. Since then, he has had no trouble. (before he not only had equalizing problems, nose bleeds, but also was prone to ear infections. he said it always felt like he had water in his ears.) He is much better now.

Hope thats the cure for you too.

bates28
04-28-2008, 16:12
Where do i find that video?

imasinker
04-28-2008, 18:58
Go to your family doctor and ask him to recommend you to an ear nose and throat specialist. Most times you need to be refered. I would make this happen soon.

bates28
04-28-2008, 20:17
Where can i find the dan ear video?

CompuDude
05-01-2008, 16:49
Where can i find the dan ear video?

There is no DAN ear video. They meant to refer you to Dr. Kay's video.

See: Doc's Diving Medicine Home Page (http://faculty.washington.edu/ekay/)

elijahb
05-04-2008, 20:03
maybe this will help with your ear issues DAN Divers Alert Network : Guide to Avoiding Ear & Sinus Injuries in Scuba Diving (http://www.diversalertnetwork.org/medical/articles/article.asp?articleid=13)
Hope you can figure out the ear problem

huvrr
05-13-2008, 10:54
equalize immediatedly upon descent and frequently as you descend before you begin to feel the squeeze

CFDAlden
05-14-2008, 01:10
On my checkout dives I had minor nosebleeds. My instructor said it was a forced equalization. The valsalva really does not work for me, so I have to do a couple of other things. I tilt my head back (helps stretch the eustacian tubes), and do a yawn / swallow thing. Works like a charm, for me.

heydn62
05-14-2008, 11:45
what kind of dr. would i have to see?

If you have a personal physician, visit him/her first. You may get a referral to an ENT (ear/nose/throat). Many insurance companies will not pay for an ENT visit if you go on your own, but will if you have the referral.

longtailbda
05-31-2008, 20:07
Man if your having bleeding and ear problems that are that bad you really need to get checked out before you do serious damage.