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DevilDiver
06-10-2008, 08:58
Has anyone read any reports or used/tried this product yet? Looking for info and opinions.

Yes, there really is Wi-Fi inside that tiny little card. We think itís going to change the way people take, save and share photos.
All Eye-Fi Cards come with everything needed to make it simple to set up and connect to your home Wi-Fi network. After that, pop the card into your digital camera and start capturing memories. It stores pictures like a regular SD card no matter where you are, and uploads automatically as soon as you return to your wireless network. All you have to do is turn the camera on.

Link:
Eye-Fi Ľ (http://www.eye.fi/)

Thanks,

Vercingetorix
06-10-2008, 11:01
If I'm close enough to my computer to upload wirelessly, I'm close enough to put an SD card in the reader. If that Eye-fi is not encrypted, then you may broadcast to any wi-fi computer nearby. I want to keep my pr0n to myself.

longtailbda
06-10-2008, 11:25
I'd prefer to just download as normal for the same reason that Vercingetorix stated. Maybe I'd consider it if it was selective on download.

reactive
06-10-2008, 11:26
If I'm close enough to my computer to upload wirelessly, I'm close enough to put an SD card in the reader. If that Eye-fi is not encrypted, then you may broadcast to any wi-fi computer nearby. I want to keep my pr0n to myself.

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mike_s
06-10-2008, 11:45
Has anyone read any reports or used/tried this product yet? Looking for info and opinions.



Thanks,


check out this thread I started about them about 6 months ago on Scubaboard. I pretty much asked the same question you did.

Wireless (802.11g) SD Memory card? Anyone using them? - ScubaBoard (http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/underwater-photography/218330-wireless-802-11g-sd-memory-card-anyone-using-them.html)


i really see the major camera makers, like Cannon, Nikon, etc starting to include wireless technology (802.11g) in their cameras and you being able to set up networks in the MENU screen on the camera. I'm surprised it's not here now considering that you can already get connectivity like that in the iPHONE.


As for the above concern about it transmitting to another computer... you have to physically take the card and put it in their USB reader to set it up for a network. any time you change networks, you have to do the same thing again. kinda a pain. so although anything is possible in getting your pics off the wireless net, it's likely avoidable. so I think your porn is safe. :D

rawalker
06-10-2008, 13:07
I can see 1 advantage and 1 disadvantage to a wireless card.

The advantage is not having to open your housing to upload your shots that way keeping the seal in tact.

The disadvantage would be a reduction in battery life which would require opening the case for charging or swapping the batteries.
If manufacturers would use a charging system that would work within the watertight case then the wireless would be more advantagious.

DevilDiver
06-10-2008, 13:17
Has anyone read any reports or used/tried this product yet? Looking for info and opinions.



Thanks,


check out this thread I started about them about 6 months ago on Scubaboard. I pretty much asked the same question you did.

Wireless (802.11g) SD Memory card? Anyone using them? - ScubaBoard (http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/underwater-photography/218330-wireless-802-11g-sd-memory-card-anyone-using-them.html)


i really see the major camera makers, like Cannon, Nikon, etc starting to include wireless technology (802.11g) in their cameras and you being able to set up networks in the MENU screen on the camera. I'm surprised it's not here now considering that you can already get connectivity like that in the iPHONE.


As for the above concern about it transmitting to another computer... you have to physically take the card and put it in their USB reader to set it up for a network. any time you change networks, you have to do the same thing again. kinda a pain. so although anything is possible in getting your pics off the wireless net, it's likely avoidable. so I think your porn is safe. :D


Thanks! First time I have come across this and wanted to see what people thought. I can see this developing into something useful but for now I will stick with what I have.

It will be interesting to see how this is accepted and where it goes.......

CompuDude
06-10-2008, 15:36
I don't see a real value in it, and I see it draining the camera batteries faster.

The geek in me likes that it's been done, but the realist in me won't bite.

And wireless transfer is way slower than a direct connection.

Edit: And eek, I sure hope you have a secure home network and have changed the default network name. If you have a default network name (like "linksys") and no password, anytime you pass a similar network, that card is going to connect and try to transfer your photos!

Aussie
06-11-2008, 01:09
I was talking to a guy that shoots pro for international tenis matches and they all use wireless connections to upload their shots to their media HUB. Then again the gear he was using was alot of money.

Nikon have brough out their own wireless connection for the D3 and D300 Nikon UK - Wireless Transmitter WT-4 (http://www.europe-nikon.com/product/en_GB/products/broad/1485/overview.html)

Its not the same as the wireless SD card but It looks like it will be popular in the near future for those taking vast amounts of photos.

Battery consumption and people hacking into your transfer would be my biggest fear. I will stick with the ever increase memory card sizes 8gig then 16gig and now 32gig.......next week 64 gig.

Aussie

Geoff_T
06-11-2008, 02:52
I was talking to a guy that shoots pro for international tenis matches and they all use wireless connections to upload their shots to their media HUB. Then again the gear he was using was alot of money.

Nikon have brough out their own wireless connection for the D3 and D300 Nikon UK - Wireless Transmitter WT-4 (http://www.europe-nikon.com/product/en_GB/products/broad/1485/overview.html)

Its not the same as the wireless SD card but It looks like it will be popular in the near future for those taking vast amounts of photos.

Battery consumption and people hacking into your transfer would be my biggest fear. I will stick with the ever increase memory card sizes 8gig then 16gig and now 32gig.......next week 64 gig.

Aussie

I have used these professionaly, they are encripted. That said even when you are shooting hundreds or thousands of frames they are not always fesibal due to rf interferiance. But if you are just looking for a way to send through a houseing they would work. But they probialy would not transmit through water.

mike_s
06-11-2008, 10:03
I've found that 2gb is sufficient to store 500 to 550 10.6mp images shot from my Nikon. (I use a 2gb card normally).

I don't think this card is the best to come home and download all the pics at once as they could be done better using a USB card reader.

but for random snapshots at home, like something I'm going to put for sale say on craigslist, I can see the quick transfer of a few pics at a time to be a pro. especially when you look at the pic on the PC and realize you need a different angle and need to shoot a few more. gives you close to instand review w/o having to mess with downloading them.

The only negative I can see is that it would be a pain to change the setup for different networks and might not work good for "point to point" transfers directly to your laptop (without a wireless router involved).

also, if you want to delete images off the card, you have to do that manually in your camera or plug into USB reader to do it. This has positives and negatives. the positive is that you have a 2nd copy of the image on the card in case the image on the computer gets corrupted during transfer or shortly aftewards (or edited poorly, you still have the original). the negative is that to remove them you have to do so manually. but this is true with any card. (unless you re-format the card to remove all at once.)






I have used these professionaly, they are encripted. .

that's good to know. since if most routers are set up properly, then they are encrypted. Most folks wouldn't want to make their router less secure only to transfer pictures.

EDIT: Their website isn't the greatest for providing info on the card, but I finally found this on supported security:


Wi-Fi Security: Static WEP 40/104/128, WPA-PSK, WPA2-PSK

chris408
06-11-2008, 11:06
I would question the range as the small antenna in the SD would have to go through the camera's casing to access the wireless network. Also, battery life would be a question and actual transfer speed.

The Canon wireless adapter is an external attachment to the camera and has it's own battery. It transmits over wireless or wired and the files are sent via FTP.

CompuDude
06-11-2008, 12:01
I was talking to a guy that shoots pro for international tenis matches and they all use wireless connections to upload their shots to their media HUB. Then again the gear he was using was alot of money.

Nikon have brough out their own wireless connection for the D3 and D300 Nikon UK - Wireless Transmitter WT-4 (http://www.europe-nikon.com/product/en_GB/products/broad/1485/overview.html)

Its not the same as the wireless SD card but It looks like it will be popular in the near future for those taking vast amounts of photos.

Battery consumption and people hacking into your transfer would be my biggest fear. I will stick with the ever increase memory card sizes 8gig then 16gig and now 32gig.......next week 64 gig.

Aussie

Those pro wireless setups are encrypted, as others have noted, and any pro shooting at an event is going to have a serious monster external battery pack and/or access to a power outlet, so battery consumption is a lot less of a concern than with the matchbook-sized batteries (or AAs) in most consumer cameras where this Eye Fi thing would be used.

mike_s
06-11-2008, 12:33
I would question the range as the small antenna in the SD would have to go through the camera's casing to access the wireless network. Also, battery life would be a question and actual transfer speed.

The Canon wireless adapter is an external attachment to the camera and has it's own battery. It transmits over wireless or wired and the files are sent via FTP


EyeFi says Range: 90+ feet outdoors and 45+ feet indoors


I don't know on the battery if anyone has any real tests, but in any radio, if you transmit, it uses the battery more than just in receive mode. so it's got to use a little more. But if you've got a decent camera with a good battery system it shouldn't be a problem. If you've got a crappy battery system, then the problem is the camera systen and not the EyeFi card.

One thing you will see is that most cameras go into "sleep mode" to conserve battery if the buttons aren't touched for X amount of time. x might be 20 seconds or 2 minutes. IF the camera goes to sleep and you're still trying to upload pics than you'll have a problem. I think they recommend that you increase the sleep time when doing big uploads. of course this uses more battery power also. not a concern on my camera as the battery lasts forever and I have the time already pumped on on review, etc.

Geoff_T
06-11-2008, 15:31
I was talking to a guy that shoots pro for international tenis matches and they all use wireless connections to upload their shots to their media HUB. Then again the gear he was using was alot of money.

Nikon have brough out their own wireless connection for the D3 and D300 Nikon UK - Wireless Transmitter WT-4 (http://www.europe-nikon.com/product/en_GB/products/broad/1485/overview.html)

Its not the same as the wireless SD card but It looks like it will be popular in the near future for those taking vast amounts of photos.

Battery consumption and people hacking into your transfer would be my biggest fear. I will stick with the ever increase memory card sizes 8gig then 16gig and now 32gig.......next week 64 gig.

Aussie

Those pro wireless setups are encrypted, as others have noted, and any pro shooting at an event is going to have a serious monster external battery pack and/or access to a power outlet, so battery consumption is a lot less of a concern than with the matchbook-sized batteries (or AAs) in most consumer cameras where this Eye Fi thing would be used.


Yes and no Pro batteries last forever the WT series transmitters are powered by the onbord camera battery By the way those batteries will last for 8 hours shooting a high frame rate sports event and can be changed in under 5 secconds so consumption isnt a problem. What is a problem as I have said is things like rf interferiance from other photographers, sound ops and stadium transmissions. The other issue is metal buildings that act like a ferrer cage and block transmission to your recive point. Which could be in another room. What I would want to know about the eye fi is what the transmission strength is as well as the encription situation. Also with the wt you can transmit while saveing to a CF card giveing me a backup of everything in case somthing goes tango uniform. Does the eye fi do this?