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kong
10-23-2008, 07:53
I saw a short paragraph in a recent magazine about a new BC called the Zeus, it has the front zipper instead of a cummerbund like the Zena except it looks like it is for guys and another ultra small travel BC. Anyone have any more info about these?

ScubaToys Larry
10-23-2008, 09:33
I'm at Dema right now, and will be at the Zeagle booth in about 2 hours. I walked through rapidly yesterday, and I saw the lightweight travel BC you're talking about. It's a softpack harness system that weighs less than 5 pounds even with the optional back and shoulder pads. We'll have some info up on our website after I get back.

I'll take a look at the Zeus later today!

Zenagirl
10-23-2008, 20:03
I saw the ad in Sport Diver and wasn't sure what to think of "Zeus". There was also a new one called the "Express Tech" which take minimal to a whole new level. ;)

Larry, it'll be interesting to hear your impressions after seeing these up close and personal.

Empacher
10-23-2008, 20:35
is the express tech the same as the tech?

ScottZeagle
10-27-2008, 15:10
No...the Express Tech is a super lightweight BC for "techie travel", etc.

It weighs in at about 4.5 lbs and will accept the weight systems that are used on our backplates.

Based on the feedback we recieved at DEMA, this will be a hot seller!!!

Empacher
10-27-2008, 15:13
Thanks!

dagrath
10-27-2008, 15:30
I can't wait to see more details on it, would be awesome to have a top notch travel BC. Make sure to post something when you have marketing material online somewhere.

Rileybri
10-27-2008, 15:33
:ttiuwop:

ScottZeagle
10-28-2008, 12:50
Pictures?? You want PICTURES???

Ah, well.....ok.


Here are a few pics of some of the new products... :)

Flathead 7 Regulator
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3236/2981101195_66bdde7d3e.jpg

Flathead LT Regulator
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3190/2981958386_17ee120879.jpg

N2iTion 3 Computer
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3024/2981101673_e8a249cb99.jpg

N2iTion 3 Computer in the Access Console - note the digital compass. The ring around the computer unscrews, so that you have quick and easy access to the computer for traveling, downloading, etc... :)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3041/2981959282_f8a1d1334f.jpg

ScottZeagle
10-28-2008, 12:51
Express Tech BC
1st picture shows the plate only, the second shows the complete BC with a 24lb wing. The unit weighs about 4.5lbs complete!!!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3284/2981103467_dd0894947b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3244/2981960026_3945c611b4.jpg

ScottZeagle
10-28-2008, 12:52
The new ZeagleFlex Drysuit...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3233/2981104001_7b5138133c.jpg

3rdEye
10-28-2008, 12:52
interesting console design...is that groove for a thumb?

ScottZeagle
10-28-2008, 12:52
New Deluxe Harness for backplates
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3072/2982075260_bfa8b19f85.jpg

Zeus BC for men...(and the XS size works GREAT for kids!)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2313/2982074594_e7c67b3220.jpg

Eden BC for Women
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3162/2981217105_e2ff0d231a.jpg

ScottZeagle
10-28-2008, 12:52
And finally...the 2009 Ranger LTD

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3150/2982075006_629eb8258c.jpg

ScottZeagle
10-28-2008, 12:55
interesting console design...is that groove for a thumb?

Exactly. When you hold it, it fits right in your hand and your thumb goes in the groove. Looks kinda funky, but feels perfect when you are holding it.

Also, I should mention that the computer space has little "teeth" inside, so that you can turn the computer however you like it. You can make it in-line with the SPG, or turn it to your desired position.

Edited to add: The console pictured is a rapid prototype that we took to DEMA. The actual case should look much cleaner. ;)

fireflock
10-28-2008, 13:23
The computer looks interesting, and that drysuit looks a lot like mine. I bought my suit from a manufacturer with lots of experience building drysuits but a weak dealer network in a lot of the US. If they are the same, the suit should be popular. Nothing else has the same range of stock sizes or the same value for the money (Value for the money....a Zeagle tradition, IMO).

Nice stuff.

Rich

Byte Me
10-28-2008, 13:34
Like the look of the new Ranger LTD. That extra shoulder dump would be handy! Is it lighter than the previous model? Looks like it would be. Guess I should have waited 8 months! ;)

Drysuit looks great too - and I may be in the market for just such an animal. Specs on your website this week Scott?

One other question - on the cummerbund straps are they able to now be secured so they don't hang at all or is that just the picture. In the picture for the last model (and in practice) they hang freely...that's really the only little niggle I have on this BC is the waist / chest straps and what to do with them once you get things snugged up!

http://www.zeagle.com/clientuploads/pictures/Bcs/rgr_ltd/Ranger-LTD_web.gif

ScottZeagle
10-28-2008, 15:12
One other question - on the cummerbund straps are they able to now be secured so they don't hang at all or is that just the picture. In the picture for the last model (and in practice) they hang freely...that's really the only little niggle I have on this BC is the waist / chest straps and what to do with them once you get things snugged up!


If the hanging straps bother you, you can take a bike inner tube and make a little sleeve to hold them...ask the techie guys!!

;)

Byte Me
10-28-2008, 16:24
One other question - on the cummerbund straps are they able to now be secured so they don't hang at all or is that just the picture. In the picture for the last model (and in practice) they hang freely...that's really the only little niggle I have on this BC is the waist / chest straps and what to do with them once you get things snugged up!


If the hanging straps bother you, you can take a bike inner tube and make a little sleeve to hold them...ask the techie guys!!

;)

Arggg... I searched straps, hanging straps, etc. but can't find anything! Could you elaborate or do you have a picture?!?

fireflock
10-28-2008, 19:19
The idea is that you take a bike inner tube and cut a 1" wide piece. You slide that piece over the webbing and the buckle and then you can tuck the free end of the webbing into the inner tube.

This picture shows a rig with a piece of inner tube. Obviously, this piece of inner tube is to hold the inflator hose or something, but you can see the idea.

http://www.scubamagazine.net/images/ScubaMagazine%20Images/HOG-3.jpg


Basically, you're making something that serves the same purpose as the little loop next to your belt buckle.

I hope I didn't just confuse you even more.

Byte Me
10-29-2008, 07:30
The idea is that you take a bike inner tube and cut a 1" wide piece. You slide that piece over the webbing and the buckle and then you can tuck the free end of the webbing into the inner tube.

This picture shows a rig with a piece of inner tube. Obviously, this piece of inner tube is to hold the inflator hose or something, but you can see the idea.

http://www.scubamagazine.net/images/ScubaMagazine%20Images/HOG-3.jpg


Basically, you're making something that serves the same purpose as the little loop next to your belt buckle.

I hope I didn't just confuse you even more.

No, that's perfect! Thanks a lot!!

I figured that's kind of what Scott was referring to, but as usual I tried to make it a LOT more complicated in my head than it is in practice. now I have to stop at wally world or someplace that sells bike inner tubes.

mm_dm
10-29-2008, 07:44
Pictures?? You want PICTURES???

Ah, well.....ok.


Here are a few pics of some of the new products... :)

Flathead 7 Regulator
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3236/2981101195_66bdde7d3e.jpg

Flathead LT Regulator
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3190/2981958386_17ee120879.jpg

N2iTion 3 Computer
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3024/2981101673_e8a249cb99.jpg

N2iTion 3 Computer in the Access Console - note the digital compass. The ring around the computer unscrews, so that you have quick and easy access to the computer for traveling, downloading, etc... :)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3041/2981959282_f8a1d1334f.jpg

What differences are there between the old Flatheads and the new 7's?

ScottZeagle
10-29-2008, 14:16
The Flathead-7 first stage is made from a new stronger forging, that allows the ports to be placed in an ideal configuration for slightly improved flow capacity.

Trimming excess material from the original Flathead-VI 1st stage, left more surface area which transfers more heat from the water into the interior, improving cold water performance.

The new Flathead-7 is lighter and more compact, making it easier to handle and better for travel use.

A fifth LP port improves versatility and flexibility when mounting the Flathead-7 in different configurations.

The unsealed Flathead-LT version (above right), is one of the lightest first stage regulators in Zeagle’s line.

The matte-black body finish and lasered Logo, contrast nicely with other bright chrome parts of the Flathead-7 and Flathead-LT.


The “Z” second stage (which comes with the Flathead-7 and Flathead-LT) comes standard with a braided Miflex hose. The Miflex hose is thinner, more flexible, lighter, and has a larger internal bore than a standard rubber hose giving it increased flow capacity.

The Z housing has a matte-black smooth rubber finish that is durable and attractive.

The exhaust tee on the Z second stage is the same width at the top as the exhaust tees on other Zeagle second stages, but it is narrower on the bottom giving a trimmer profile and lighter weight.

The new front cover assembly on the Z second stage has improved venting for faster response to inhalation demands.

Aussie
10-29-2008, 17:22
Hi Scott.

Has there been an improvement on the finish of the Zeagle backplates? i.e no sharp edges

How much less does the flathead 7 weight than the Flathead 6?

Is there a new DSV?



Regards Aussie

rumblefish
10-29-2008, 18:13
Is the express tech BC a soft plate like the oxycheq ultralight backplate? What wings will this plate support?

brandon
10-29-2008, 19:11
Ahh... that's why the Flathead VI just went on sale at ST =)

-Brandon.

zahgurim
10-30-2008, 06:42
Pricing on the drysuit?

Not listed on S-Toys yet... :)

mm_dm
10-30-2008, 07:21
Larry's going to put up all that info when he gets back from DEMA.

ScottZeagle
10-30-2008, 09:15
Has there been an improvement on the finish of the Zeagle backplates? i.e no sharp edges.

Yes, and we are still working on making them even better!!




How much less does the flathead 7 weight than the Flathead 6?

Is there a new DSV?


I don't have the exact weight of the FH7 yet...they are still on the way back from DEMA.

There is no new DS-V...it is the same as in 2007.

:)

ScottZeagle
10-30-2008, 09:17
Is the express tech BC a soft plate like the oxycheq ultralight backplate? What wings will this plate support?

Yes, it is a soft plate with a polymer reinforcement.

I haven't tried it with every wing we make, but it should work with most of them....

ScottZeagle
10-30-2008, 09:18
Pricing on the drysuit?

Not listed on S-Toys yet... :)

MSRP is $1286.20

fireflock
10-30-2008, 10:49
Is Zeagle going to be selling any of the undergarments too? I have a heavy version and like it so much that I'm thinking of getting a thinner version of the same kind.

Rich

ScottZeagle
10-30-2008, 14:14
Yes...we will have 4 different undergarments, for all types of drysuit diving.

Coming to the website soon...if not today!!!

:)

Byte Me
10-30-2008, 14:23
Yes...we will have 4 different undergarments, for all types of drysuit diving.

Coming to the website soon...if not today!!!

:)

Obviously this is brand new - any idea when we can hear about reviews or user responses?

What other makers gear / model would this compare to?

Makai
10-30-2008, 14:45
This is the most comprehensive display and explanation I've ever seen any manufacturer put out on equipment they've introduced at DEMA. Thank you very much, Scott.

Now it I could only find where my wife hid the credit cards...

fireflock
10-30-2008, 16:34
I see the undergarments are on the website now.

Dry Suit Zeagle Systems - Scuba Diving Equipment Manufacturer (http://zeagle.com/index.php?submenu=DrySuits&src=gendocs&link=Drysuit&category=Dry%20Suits)

The undergarment I have is very similar to the QuadStretch Double layer and I see a QuadStretch single layer in my future.

These really are nice undergarments, especially for the price. Some 'other' manufacturers charge as much as a cheap drysuit just for the undergarments :smiley29:

Rich

Zenagirl
10-30-2008, 16:56
I don't care about the drysuit, I want the Flathead 7! ;) Waaaahh!

brandon
10-31-2008, 21:15
I like the Flathead VI's design better =)

Yeah.. that's it... because I have two of them and if I was attached to the FH7, I'd want two of those too!

-B

Ryanh1801
11-01-2008, 20:33
Had a chance to check out some of the new zeagle BCD's.

Tech Express is awesome, I will be buying one here before too long for travel, super light and very simple. Just the way I like it. The Price on it can not be beat.

New Ranger LTD- Looks very sharp, fixed all the things I did not like about the old Ranger.

Can't wait to see the new N2ition, Going to be hard to hold off on buying a new computer until that one ships.

Bassoonin
11-01-2008, 21:54
Sniffle. I just bought the flathead VI. My husband will kill me if I buy a new reg. I'm going to go cry now.:smiley19:

hawkenph
11-02-2008, 02:21
Hi Scott,
A quick question for you. Will there be any problems with getting the Service kits for the Flathead VI's since they are discontinued? And are the Service Kits the same with all of your regulators?
Thank you,
Kurt

brandon
11-02-2008, 22:42
I really doubt service is going to be an issue, most of the reg manufacturers provide service kits long after they stop selling the regulator.

-B

ScottZeagle
11-04-2008, 08:50
Hi Scott,
A quick question for you. Will there be any problems with getting the Service kits for the Flathead VI's since they are discontinued? And are the Service Kits the same with all of your regulators?
Thank you,
Kurt

The Flathead 7 will use the same service kit as the Flathead 6...

:)

5513
11-05-2008, 00:31
The Flathead-7 first stage is made from a new stronger forging, that allows the ports to be placed in an ideal configuration for slightly improved flow capacity.

Trimming excess material from the original Flathead-VI 1st stage, left more surface area which transfers more heat from the water into the interior, improving cold water performance.

The new Flathead-7 is lighter and more compact, making it easier to handle and better for travel use.

A fifth LP port improves versatility and flexibility when mounting the Flathead-7 in different configurations.

The unsealed Flathead-LT version (above right), is one of the lightest first stage regulators in Zeagle’s line.

The matte-black body finish and lasered Logo, contrast nicely with other bright chrome parts of the Flathead-7 and Flathead-LT.


The “Z” second stage (which comes with the Flathead-7 and Flathead-LT) comes standard with a braided Miflex hose. The Miflex hose is thinner, more flexible, lighter, and has a larger internal bore than a standard rubber hose giving it increased flow capacity.

The Z housing has a matte-black smooth rubber finish that is durable and attractive.

The exhaust tee on the Z second stage is the same width at the top as the exhaust tees on other Zeagle second stages, but it is narrower on the bottom giving a trimmer profile and lighter weight.

The new front cover assembly on the Z second stage has improved venting for faster response to inhalation demands.

You are killing me. Just bought a setup and now you offer this! Nice!

brandon
11-05-2008, 11:51
It's just a carved up FH6 with some extra bling =) You still have a badass regulator!

-B

fireflock
11-07-2008, 13:40
Is it too early to look for a size chart on the drysuit or undergarments?

I can't find one on the ST or Zeagle site, although I do see 'available at your Zeagle dealer NOW' :)

If the undergaments show up on the ST site, I can probably find someone to buy one and write a review ;)
Rich