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Scotttyd
12-06-2008, 22:08
I have never taken my camera on a night dive. I was curious as to how this would work (other than the obvious task loading). Can you get descent pictures, I am assuming your best subject would have to be extremely close? Maybe this is a dumb question, but I always thought you would have a chance to get a cool picture depending on your dive site. Any tips?

FishFood
12-06-2008, 22:43
Night time photography is a pain. Your best freind here is an attached focus light. Other wise youll end up with either out of focus pictures, or a flash light in your left hand, and the camera in your right.

Do you have a strobe?

DevilDiver
12-07-2008, 00:14
Night dives make for some of the best photo ops (IMO). Not really much additional task loading but FishFood is correct about the focus light. In fact the focus light is my primary light on night dives (I have two back ups in the pocket).

Your focus light will usually be mounted to your housing (with a hot shoe adapter) or mounted to a bracket on one of the strobe arms.

Scotttyd
12-07-2008, 09:40
Night time photography is a pain. Your best freind here is an attached focus light. Other wise youll end up with either out of focus pictures, or a flash light in your left hand, and the camera in your right.

Do you have a strobe?
Yes I have a strobe, my usual primary light is a princeton tec shockwave, probably not the best light to attach to a camera (not sure if it is even possible). I am assuming the flashlight style would work better to attach to the camera.

DevilDiver
12-07-2008, 09:42
What housing are you using?

You will need a focus light in addition to the strobe. The focus light will provide the light your digital camera will need to focus on the subject. The strobe provides the lighting for the actual photo just like daylight conditions. With out the focus light you will have to have a spotter or hold a flashlight in on hand and tha camera in the other......

Here is a recent link to a thread with more info on focus lights.
led focus light (http://forum.scubatoys.com/underwater-photo/19611-led-focus-light.html)

FishFood
12-07-2008, 09:48
What's your camera and strobe set up? Best route, if you can, is to buy a focus light specific to your set up, that will shut off when taking the photo. Or if your camera has a preflash...

Personaly, I have the sealife junk, so I don't have this option. So, I zip tied a Princeton Tec Miniwave to the arm of my strobe... Focus the camera, then rotate the head of the strobe to get the light beam off my subject, and take the picture. :smiley29:

DevilDiver
12-07-2008, 09:56
Personaly, I have the sealife junk, so I don't have this option. So, I zip tied a Princeton Tec Miniwave to the arm of my strobe... Focus the camera, then rotate the head of the strobe to get the light beam off my subject, and take the picture. :smiley29:

FishFood,
Do you still have the DC600? If so there is a rubber stopper in the hot shoe that can be removed. All you need is a base adapter and the focus light.

I had a similar set up where I attached 2 small dive lights to the bottom of the tray for night dives before I purchased a focus light, worked OK but I would end up with hot spots.

DevilDiver
12-07-2008, 10:00
Here is what I use-
http://reefphoto.com/images/fix.rhb.jpg (http://reefphoto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=135_97_36&products_id=1055)
Fisheye YS Rotary Hotshoe Base (http://reefphoto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=135_97_36&products_id=1055)


$39.00
http://reefphoto.com/images/fix.uc.light.jpg (http://reefphoto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=135_14&products_id=1470)
Fisheye Mini LED Focus Light (http://reefphoto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=135_14&products_id=1470)


$56.00

ryssyr
12-07-2008, 11:25
if you want to take a look at some night dive photos with and without strobes (focus light only), I have them posted up here. Night Dive Mandy's Eel Garden (http://traveleri.com/Diving/Roatan_Redux/Pages/80_Night_at_Mandys_Eel_Garden.html)

I always take my camera with me or I am guaranteed to see the coolest thing ever and not get a shot of it.

DevilDiver
12-07-2008, 11:34
if you want to take a look at some night dive photos with and without strobes (focus light only), I have them posted up here. Night Dive Mandy's Eel Garden (http://traveleri.com/Diving/Roatan_Redux/Pages/80_Night_at_Mandys_Eel_Garden.html)

I always take my camera with me or I am guaranteed to see the coolest thing ever and not get a shot of it.

Nice photos!

What focus light are you using?

dbh
12-07-2008, 13:56
Night dives are my favorite dives and you see things that you don't see on day dives. There are way more shrimps, crabs and even feeding corals.

I use this focus light:
http://reefphoto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=135_14&products_id=25&zenid=a40e1caef4a7323dd03a59b0e357b7e8

with this red filter:
http://reefphoto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=135_14&products_id=891&zenid=a40e1caef4a7323dd03a59b0e357b7e8

The red filter helps from scaring shrimps & crabs. Although expensive, I have never heard someone who has tried one say that they aren't worth it.

http://www.myunderwaterworld.com/Bon06%20orgn%20corallimorph.jpg

http://www.myunderwaterworld.com/Bon06%20Batwing%20Coral%20crab.jpg

http://www.myunderwaterworld.com/t&c05polyps02.jpg

Dave

Scotttyd
12-07-2008, 18:24
What housing are you using?

You will need a focus light in addition to the strobe. The focus light will provide the light your digital camera will need to focus on the subject. The strobe provides the lighting for the actual photo just like daylight conditions. With out the focus light you will have to have a spotter or hold a flashlight in on hand and tha camera in the other......

Here is a recent link to a thread with more info on focus lights.
led focus light (http://forum.scubatoys.com/underwater-photo/19611-led-focus-light.html)
I am using an ikelite housing with the nikon coolpix L11 (point and shoot) with a AF35 strobe. I am not looking to spend big money on a light (I will only use it rarely on night dives). Are any of those focus lights bright enough for a primary light? I might try to do the balancing act first or zip tie a light to the strobe.

DevilDiver
12-27-2008, 09:26
What housing are you using?

You will need a focus light in addition to the strobe. The focus light will provide the light your digital camera will need to focus on the subject. The strobe provides the lighting for the actual photo just like daylight conditions. With out the focus light you will have to have a spotter or hold a flashlight in on hand and tha camera in the other......

Here is a recent link to a thread with more info on focus lights.
led focus light (http://forum.scubatoys.com/underwater-photo/19611-led-focus-light.html)
I am using an ikelite housing with the nikon coolpix L11 (point and shoot) with a AF35 strobe. I am not looking to spend big money on a light (I will only use it rarely on night dives). Are any of those focus lights bright enough for a primary light? I might try to do the balancing act first or zip tie a light to the strobe.

:smiley32: I used to get those large rubber bands and attach a little back up light to my camera tray between the housing and the arm. It worked pretty good but I would get hot spots if the distance was more that about 3'.

I would use this as my primary light (back up in my pocket) on night dives. I am comfortable with a small light, after your eyes adjust you really do not need a light cannon.

Right now I am using the Fisheye focus light ($45) attached to the hot shoe of my housing and that is my primary light as well. You just point the camera kit in the direction you need to see and every thing is cool.

*** I have a question. Your AF35 strobe is a slave that has a sensor that is pointed at the cameras flash, right? Have you ever had it mis-fire (especially at night) if a divers light is shined at it?

ryssyr
12-27-2008, 22:09
if you want to take a look at some night dive photos with and without strobes (focus light only), I have them posted up here. Night Dive Mandy's Eel Garden (http://traveleri.com/Diving/Roatan_Redux/Pages/80_Night_at_Mandys_Eel_Garden.html)

I always take my camera with me or I am guaranteed to see the coolest thing ever and not get a shot of it.

Nice photos!

What focus light are you using?


Thanks!


sorry about the delay in replying. I have a nocturnal lights SLX LED Dive Light (http://www.nocturnallights.com/SLX_LED_Dive_Light_p/slx.htm) I got it as a demo unit and have it mounted on the housing using the flash mount earlier in the thread. It works well, but is a little big and chews batteries up.

reeldive
12-28-2008, 10:30
Almost afraid to post my night shots after seeing DBH's stuff but here goes.

http://forum.scubatoys.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2029&c=6

I used the Camers in one hand and an Iklitet C8 in the other. I use the peripheral light to keep the camera pointed in the right direction