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68raggtop
04-01-2009, 11:19
I may be doing a road trip this fall that would include Las Vegas. I was looking for information on doing this dive, and I see that there are supposed to be 2 operations authorized to do the tour. I emailed xtremescuba about it and received no reply. Does anyone know when the permit year starts/ends or who the other operator is?
If you have done the dive, would you recommend it? My wife isn't Deco certified, so are there any must see sites around Lake Mead that I could take her to?
Thanks,
Dave

Rainer
04-01-2009, 11:31
Contact Joel Silverstein over at TDL. He's the other operator and probably has more dives on the B29 than anyone else.

fire diver
04-01-2009, 11:35
Be prepare to spend money! It ain't cheap to dive the old bird, and you can't do it by yourself.

I would LOVE to dive it myself, but I cant justify $400 something for the dives.

68raggtop
04-01-2009, 20:44
Contact Joel Silverstein over at TDL. He's the other operator and probably has more dives on the B29 than anyone else.

Thanks Rainer, I sent him an email also.
Dave

CompuDude
04-01-2009, 21:58
Yeah, Joel at TDL is the one to talk to. Just pick up the phone and call the shop.

I've been drooling over the chance to dive it since they first found that plane. But they want WAY too much money for two dives into murky vis. I'm on a budget these days, and my diving dollars go a lot further with other dive options.

mike_s
04-01-2009, 22:43
Yeah, Joel at TDL is the one to talk to. Just pick up the phone and call the shop.

I've been drooling over the chance to dive it since they first found that plane. But they want WAY too much money for two dives into murky vis. I'm on a budget these days, and my diving dollars go a lot further with other dive options.


at least it's two dives on the B29 now.

first year he did it, it was one dive on the B29 and one dive on another site for $400 bucks.


Like you said.... WAY too much money for those dives. especially for a "lake dive".

seeing how both operators (the only two who got permits) charge the same exact thing and pre-announced those prices, seems to me like they got together and "set the price".

navyhmc
04-01-2009, 23:14
As I recall, since the lake level is so low, it's not a deco/tech dive anymore. Is this still the case?

CompuDude
04-02-2009, 03:08
Yeah, Joel at TDL is the one to talk to. Just pick up the phone and call the shop.

I've been drooling over the chance to dive it since they first found that plane. But they want WAY too much money for two dives into murky vis. I'm on a budget these days, and my diving dollars go a lot further with other dive options.

at least it's two dives on the B29 now.

first year he did it, it was one dive on the B29 and one dive on another site for $400 bucks.

Like you said.... WAY too much money for those dives. especially for a "lake dive".

seeing how both operators (the only two who got permits) charge the same exact thing and pre-announced those prices, seems to me like they got together and "set the price".

I seem to recall reading something about the price... it's the gov't agency that controls the permits that's responsible for the bulk of the price. All kinds of fees and junk. They pretty much don't have a choice in the matter, it's not greed.

That said, I have a choice to not partake, although I would if money were no object.

The water level has fallen enough that it can be done as a rec dive... barely. There's even less point to paying that much for a 5 minute dive, though. Even if Joel is willing to take you as a rec diver (iffy, and not according to the website) it would hardly be worth it. Last I heard it was in 135', and that was some time ago... I'd bet it's under 130' by now, although the website still says 140. Dive The B-29 with Tech Diving Limited! (http://divetheb29.com/)

68raggtop
04-02-2009, 06:42
I see this as a one time oppurtunuty for myself though. Living 1500 miles away I would spend more than $400 on airline baggage fees and gear rental if I were to fly there. We are planning on renting an RV, so I figured that I can at least stow my gear and bring it along.
I agree that's a lot of $$$ for a couple of dives, but on the other hand, I would think I could save that much by keeping my wife out of the casino's for the day :smilie39:

The Great Kazoo
04-02-2009, 07:21
It is at 129' now.

scubadiver888
04-02-2009, 09:16
This looks pretty cool. I'm no where near ready to dive something like this. The TDL site indicates $300 for 1 dive and $450 for 2 dives. Interesting thing to note is the dive can be THREE hours dependent on gas. So if you can do a 3 hour deco dive it might be worth it. I typically get an hour on air and some guided dives cost me $100. If I'm willing to spend $100 for an hour dive why not $300 for a 3 hour dive. Mind you, the gas is extra.

So does this mean a full day, 2 dive could be SIX hours of diving?

How hard is it to get a 3 hour dive on a wreck at 130' using trimix? What about a rebreather?

CompuDude
04-02-2009, 11:45
You'd need a RB to hit 3 hours at 130', or a LOT of stage bottles. Not likely to happen on open circuit, even with trimix.

To the OP: Are you trying to do this as a recreational dive, or do you have tech certs for deco and trimix?

MxDiver
04-02-2009, 11:52
You'd need a RB to hit 3 hours at 130', or a LOT of stage bottles. Not likely to happen on open circuit, even with trimix.

To the OP: Are you trying to do this as a recreational dive, or do you have tech certs for deco and trimix?

I gather he is Deco certified, but was asking about his wife which is not.


...If you have done the dive, would you recommend it? My wife isn't Deco certified, so are there any must see sites around Lake Mead that I could take her to?
Thanks,
Dave

clararhb
04-02-2009, 18:56
Now that would be a really cool dive. I might have to put that on my list for years to come.

mike_s
04-02-2009, 20:48
It is at 129' now.


with global warming and the never ending decline of the river level, I'm just going to wait about 5 more years and do the $29.95 snorkel boat tour (includes a bus ride from Vegas and a free t-shirt). :smiley20:

68raggtop
04-02-2009, 21:04
You'd need a RB to hit 3 hours at 130', or a LOT of stage bottles. Not likely to happen on open circuit, even with trimix.

To the OP: Are you trying to do this as a recreational dive, or do you have tech certs for deco and trimix?

I gather he is Deco certified, but was asking about his wife which is not.


...If you have done the dive, would you recommend it? My wife isn't deco certified, so are there any must see sites around Lake Mead that I could take her to?
Thanks,
Dave


Mxdiver is correct, I am deco and signed up for Trimix, waiting for the ice to melt:smiley11:. I am looking for other recreational level dives to take my wife on also, anywhere in that general area.

clararhb
04-05-2009, 11:21
It is at 129' now.


with global warming and the never ending decline of the river level, I'm just going to wait about 5 more years and do the $29.95 snorkel boat tour (includes a bus ride from Vegas and a free t-shirt). :smiley20:
Nay, it would be $129.95. You forget the government has a finger in it. :D

MxDiver
04-09-2015, 18:05
Hello all
It's been a while since I have visited the forum, due to other obligations. But today I read an article which reminded me of this thread, 6 years later is at 110'.
Will we see the first recreational dives this year?
http://theweek.com/articles/546353/theres-mysterious-bomber-bottom-lake-mead

comet24
04-09-2015, 18:55
As I recall, since the lake level is so low, it's not a deco/tech dive anymore. Is this still the case?


Last I heard from Joel it was about 120' so it's a recreation dive. Since it's a plane there is little to no relief on the dive so it will basically all be on the bottom.

Joel Silverstein at TDL is the man to talk to. He has dives setup already. Just find a day they are diving and have open spots.

I've wanted to dive it for years starting back when it was a real tec. dive but I just can't justify the price when you add in travel for me. Heck I can head down the NC for a few days for the cost of the trip from the east coast.

Still a cool wreck and if I was out that way I would consider paying the fee to dive it.