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scubastud
11-23-2009, 17:36
Just returned from the eye doctor, she said my retina in my right eye , the thin layer is "peeling down" from the top, and if not adressed soon I may lose sight there.

I do not want to hear "see a doctor" or "contact DAN" . I will and am doing this of course...

What I would like to know if anyone here has had any issue like this, and how it may have affected thier diving? from a patient-type viewpoint?

Thanks... the one eyed stud.

wgt
11-23-2009, 18:15
Defying your request -- not answered from the patient perspective...

You may require a procedure wherein the retina is reattached to the back of the orbit through the use of an intraocular gas bubble. About two months after the procedure and once it has been confirmed that the gas has been absorbed from the eye, then diving most likely may be resumed (any residual gas in the eye is an absolute contraindication to diving). Expect a few disturbances of vision following the procedure, either because of persistent dysfunction of the damaged retina (actually a part of your brain) or because of some debris that may remain floating between the retina and the lens of the eye.


Just returned from the eye doctor, she said my retina in my right eye , the thin layer is "peeling down" from the top, and if not adressed soon I may lose sight there.

I do not want to hear "see a doctor" or "contact DAN" . I will and am doing this of course...

What I would like to know if anyone here has had any issue like this, and how it may have affected thier diving? from a patient-type viewpoint?

Thanks... the one eyed stud.

PACKRMAN
11-23-2009, 18:34
I was going to say that my mom tore her retina off putting on makeup about 20 years ago. She doesn't dive but her vision is fine. From that first response though I think you have all the help you need.

Good luck:smiley20:

scubastud
11-23-2009, 18:54
... Well I feel fine, who is to say this isn't the way my eye has always been?
I can't see a specialist till next week because of the holidays, the problem is I am s'posed to move to Guam next Friday and start my new job.
I am considering just heck with it, if it aint broke dont fix it.

Lulubelle
11-23-2009, 18:58
Scubastud, are you in Guam now or planning to go there in the near future?

Sorry, I know you said you wanted to hear from someone who had actually experienced this, and I have not.

Anyway, this is one of those things which CAN be serious. Please do not dive at all until you have been cleared to do so by the doc who fixes your eye/DAN docs. The eye is rather pressure sensitive. Probably a good idea to avoid other things that create pressure in the eye (i.e. weightlifting) until you have been advised that they are safe.

XOXO, Lulubelle

wgt
11-23-2009, 19:07
When was the last time a clinician looked in your eye with an ophthalmoscope?


... Well I feel fine, who is to say this isn't the way my eye has always been?
I can't see a specialist till next week because of the holidays, the problem is I am s'posed to move to Guam next Friday and start my new job.
I am considering just heck with it, if it aint broke dont fix it.

scubastud
11-23-2009, 19:20
When was the last time a clinician looked in your eye with an ophthalmoscope?


... Well I feel fine, who is to say this isn't the way my eye has always been?
I can't see a specialist till next week because of the holidays, the problem is I am s'posed to move to Guam next Friday and start my new job.
I am considering just heck with it, if it aint broke dont fix it.

Lulu... I am in Arizona, scheduled to go to Guam Friday the 4th.
WGT I Went today for an examination and glasses, and the eye doctor told me about this issue with my retina.
I have no flashes of light, no spots, no dizzyness, no nothing.
I really don't know what to do now, I need to start work in Guam, but the boss there just told me most people go off island (the Phillipines, Hawaii..) for laser or other type of eye surgery.
Even though I am told this is so very vital and dangerous and well, I should get this addressed right away, I cannont get in to see a specialist until next week... well I leave next week so ...
Damn... I'm sorry it's been a bad day, and this just tops it off...
No Idea what to do.
I guess I just needed to vent a little...

wgt
11-23-2009, 19:23
I meant when was the last time your eye was examined before today with an ophthalmoscope?


Well I feel fine, who is to say this isn't the way my eye has always been?

WGT I Went today for an examination and glasses, and the eye doctor told me about this issue with my retina.

scubastud
11-23-2009, 19:44
No idea. i dont know what an ophthalmoscope is... last eye exam was .. maybe 2 years ago?

Lulubelle
11-23-2009, 21:15
No idea. i dont know what an ophthalmoscope is... last eye exam was .. maybe 2 years ago?

It is usually the handheld instrument with a light coming out of the end. Doc gets really, really, (too) close when doing this exam. I used to chase babies around the room with one. They thought it was a toy.

SS, if you get in to see the retinal specialist next week, he/she/it will tell you what you need to do. I suspect that your opportunity will wait for you until this business is settled if it needs to. It is a good sign that you don't have any symptoms, but would be unwise to wait to see someone until you do.

wgt
11-24-2009, 07:24
If your eyes were previously examined with an ophthalmoscope (the same thing that your current doctor would have used to confirm the diagnosis of the tear) and a tear was not reported, then this is not something that has always been there. Importantly, the failure to address retinal tears enormously enhances the risk of losing vision.

Lots of factors contribute to the expression of retinal tears (e.g., diabetes, trauma, genetic disorders of connective tissue). But, alas, simply getting older is a major contributor, as the waxy substance in the eye may change its shape and fail to hold the retina firmly in place.

My suggestion (and I'm not just talking about your eye)...do whatever Lulu tells you to do. If you were my scuba buddy, I would prefer to know that you could see me with either eye.


No idea. i dont know what an ophthalmoscope is... last eye exam was .. maybe 2 years ago?

wgt
11-24-2009, 07:37
I'm glad that I'm not a baby.



:snipersmilie::baby:
Lulu ---------------- wgt



I used to chase babies around the room with one.

scarlet&gray nut
11-24-2009, 12:38
I have had a detached retina it no fun. I had to lay on my right side for two weeks mine was in my left eye. You will not be able to dive or fly if you have the gas bubble. It does take about two month for the bubble to go away.After that you should be able to do what every you want. the say that the eye is even stronger then it was before you had the retina tear.

Lulubelle
11-24-2009, 15:52
Now listen here Warnock, I chased them around the room with an ophthalmoscope, not an Uzi. YOU try getting a reasonable look into the retina of an amused or crying but always moving baby. Usually they were laughing and playing and grabbing at the scope while I was trying to see their retina. Oi.

I'll never forget the time or two I saw white. Wish I could.


I'm glad that I'm not a baby.



:snipersmilie::baby:
Lulu ---------------- wgt



I used to chase babies around the room with one.

navyhmc
11-24-2009, 18:02
Sorry Lulu, but the mental image of you chasing a giggling toddler around an exam room with opthalmoscope in the ready position is just too funny! :smilie39:

Lulubelle
11-24-2009, 18:41
Sorry Lulu, but the mental image of you chasing a giggling toddler around an exam room with opthalmoscope in the ready position is just too funny! :smilie39:

The seeing white on the retina part is definitely not funny. :smiley13:

I didn't literally chase them navy. I was a master of distraction techniques and moved quickly before they knew what I was doing. I'll take a wiggly child any day over a whiny adult. :smiley20:

scubastud
11-24-2009, 18:59
OK

Freak out over nothing... All is well.
No rips, no tears, no errors!

An abnormaility yes, there is a seperation but nothing to merit surgery or anything.
the specialist called it retinoschisis (spelling?)

He did say I should have it looked at after while and gave me a doctor's name in Hawaii... soooo
I guess I will have to go to Hawaii in a few months, sorry doctor's orders!

scubajane
11-24-2009, 19:22
I think you should take LuLuBelle and her diving gear with you to the doctor in Hawaii. It is the LEAST you can do!!

scubastud
11-24-2009, 19:28
I think you should take LuLuBelle and her diving gear with you to the doctor in Hawaii. It is the LEAST you can do!!

We would indeed have a ball!

wgt
11-24-2009, 19:56
That one is sometimes hard for even specialists to distinguish -- kudos to your doc for seeing what she did. Kudos to you for getting it checked.


OK

Freak out over nothing... All is well.
No rips, no tears, no errors!

An abnormaility yes, there is a seperation but nothing to merit surgery or anything.
the specialist called it retinoschisis (spelling?)

He did say I should have it looked at after while and gave me a doctor's name in Hawaii... soooo
I guess I will have to go to Hawaii in a few months, sorry doctor's orders!

Lulubelle
11-24-2009, 21:07
OK

Freak out over nothing... All is well.
No rips, no tears, no errors!

An abnormaility yes, there is a seperation but nothing to merit surgery or anything.
the specialist called it retinoschisis (spelling?)

He did say I should have it looked at after while and gave me a doctor's name in Hawaii... soooo
I guess I will have to go to Hawaii in a few months, sorry doctor's orders!

YEAH!!!! Good news!:smiley20:


I think you should take LuLuBelle and her diving gear with you to the doctor in Hawaii. It is the LEAST you can do!!

I think scubajane is a very wise woman, when are we going?

scubastud
11-24-2009, 21:45
OK

Freak out over nothing... All is well.
No rips, no tears, no errors!

An abnormaility yes, there is a seperation but nothing to merit surgery or anything.
the specialist called it retinoschisis (spelling?)

He did say I should have it looked at after while and gave me a doctor's name in Hawaii... soooo
I guess I will have to go to Hawaii in a few months, sorry doctor's orders!

YEAH!!!! Good news!:smiley20:


I think you should take LuLuBelle and her diving gear with you to the doctor in Hawaii. It is the LEAST you can do!!

I think scubajane is a very wise woman, when are we going?

Well the plan is , when the kid gets out of school late may, he and the wife will come out to Guam. We decided what the heck, i will met them in Hawaii and spend a few days. See the sights, log a couple dives, be beach bums , then to Guam.
Start packing, I will get the required permission slip signed by the misses so I can dive with you.

TN Traveler
11-25-2009, 11:24
I had a detached retina with a tearing a year ago - mine came with light flashes. Doctor did in office laser surgery immediately and everything came out fine. He told me I could go diving after a couple of weeks (and I did). No problems since then. Painless and easy.

Lulubelle
11-25-2009, 13:13
Start packing, I will get the required permission slip signed by the misses so I can dive with you.

Yipee!

Permission slip is absolutely required. Just make sure it is witnessed, notarized, blessed, sanctified, and legally binding. :smiley29:

samerjb
11-25-2009, 13:32
I happen to be a retina specialist... (by sheer coincidence!)...not in the US currently but may be able to assist in any way..
So sorry scubastud i caught your post just now...Glad you are fine :)
SJB

scubastud
11-25-2009, 16:42
samer no way!
You don't happen to live in Palau do you? Tahiti? Hawaii? The Phillipines?
I was told to do a follow up in a few months just to make sure everything is OK.
I will be living in Guam for a while,may as well mix business w pleasure!

samerjb
11-26-2009, 02:25
I am sorry...none of the above :(
I am working currently in Bahrain & will continue to be there for 2 more years. I work in their military hospital. If you happen to visit any of the Arab or gulf countries then i can gladly direct you towards one of the good retina guys. I also wish to dive Red sea (from Egypt) which i visit alot as my wife is Egyptian! May be we can meet there one day :)
I am new to scuba with only 6 dives so far ...thus i would make a very lousy buddy...:) but this is going to change after i have got my own gear which is heading my way from ST. Will update you on my status from time to time.
Regarding your retina...well this is common condition termed "Degenerative Retinoschisis" which is usually bilateral (both eyes) & quite harmless. You can dive up to 4 bar with no ill effects but contact sports & racket sports (tennis) needs protective eye-ware of hardened polycarbonate goggles. Very rarely these lesions detach & require surgery but history of trauma is alwasy there. The follow up is basically to time test the schisis in terms of size & 99% they stay put.
Guam...Huh...never thought about that :)

BuzzF117
11-27-2009, 08:03
Just returned from the eye doctor, she said my retina in my right eye , the thin layer is "peeling down" from the top, and if not adressed soon I may lose sight there.

I do not want to hear "see a doctor" or "contact DAN" . I will and am doing this of course...

What I would like to know if anyone here has had any issue like this, and how it may have affected thier diving? from a patient-type viewpoint?

Thanks... the one eyed stud.

sorry im the original one eyed stud here been one eyed since 1985..

To address your concerns retina detachment is not an automatic blindness diagnosis. In 1985 at the age of 17 I had a detachment that tore as it came down the back of the eye. The surgery was painful and was unsuccessful in my case but 5 years later I had the same problem in my right eye but without the tear and it was repaired the procedure at the time was a little uncomfortable and done on an out patient basis but after two weeks you couldn't tell. Now lets jump ahead 23 yrs, my children have turned 15 and we keep an eye on their eyes and they go to my same surgeon and when he spotted what he called "frying of the lattice" on the edges of the retina he did an in office laser procedure that cauterized the edges of the retina thus causing scare tissue to form now two yrs later he says their eyes look very good and that they should have no future problems. They have both been cleared to dive but choose to get drivers licenses instead this past year. In my case I asked the Dr if I came to him with the same problem I had 25 yrs ago could he fix it and he said technology and techniques had advanced to the point that he has almost no doubt he could have repaired it. Good luck and don't wait long the longer you wait the more difficult the repair is.

nuf said
Buzz

samerjb
11-27-2009, 10:03
Hay Buzz :)
Sorry to hear about your eye...Your doctor is right...25 years ago PPV (Pars Plana Vitrectomy) was just a research procedure, the tools were lousy at best & there was no chance that would have worked for you. The laser procedure that your children went is quite useful indeed & i am glad your doctor did it.
SJB