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bigman241
01-21-2010, 17:15
I planned on buying a wetsuit. The lds I went to today said he thought I would not need one in cozumel. I asked about the jellyfish, coral and such. He told me they sell this stuff like sun screen that keeps them from biting me.
Do you think I would be ok without one.
We are doing our checkouts there from shore so I am worried about the coral alittle. Though if I want I would not have issues with dropping weight between getting the custom suit and summer when I will really need one for local diving.

awap
01-21-2010, 17:27
I planned on buying a wetsuit. The lds I went to today said he thought I would not need one in cozumel. I asked about the jellyfish, coral and such. He told me they sell this stuff like sun screen that keeps them from biting me.
Do you think I would be ok without one.
We are doing our checkouts there from shore so I am worried about the coral alittle. Though if I want I would not have issues with dropping weight between getting the custom suit and summer when I will really need one for local diving.

When are you going?

Dec - Mar it might be a bit cool but survivable.

Apr-May will see jellies and sea lice. You can get by with just a t-shirt but a full body cover (skin) is nice.

June -Nov is t-shirt time if you don't mind 82 to 84 degrees.

bubbletrubble
01-21-2010, 17:34
Get a wetsuit for your Cozumel trip. I'd recommend a 3mm. At certain times of the year in Cozumel, I'll even wear an additional 3mm hooded vest. It all depends on your own personal cold tolerance. I tend to get colder than other people, though. Some people dive Cozumel without a wetsuit...but I'd say they are in the minority.

I find that wearing a lycra skin underneath makes donning the wetsuit super-easy. You can use the lycra skin for local cold water wetsuit diving as well. Lycra skins can be had for less than $50. Henderson makes one (http://www.scubatoys.com/store/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=Hotskin), and so does Tilos (http://www.scubatoys.com/store/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=TilosLycraSkinSuit). If you get the skin and you find that the 3mm is too hot, you can just wear the skin.

Wearing some kind of exposure protection simply makes sense vis-a-vis stinging critters and the sun. Once you are certified, your buoyancy control should be good enough so that you won't be running into any coral. (FYI, gloves are not allowed in the underwater park.) I'd recommend against doing any swim-throughs unless your buoyancy control is good. A hood can provide some scratch protection for your noggin. On my first Cozumel trip, there was a newbie diver on my dive boat with poor buoyancy control who got a nice gash at the top of his forehead from crashing into the ceiling of a swim-through.

I'd say that the employee at your LDS doesn't sound too knowledgeable. Just my 2 psi...

comet24
01-21-2010, 17:51
I asked about the jellyfish, coral and such. He told me they sell this stuff like sun screen that keeps them from biting me.



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Smashee
01-21-2010, 18:07
I asked about the jellyfish, coral and such. He told me they sell this stuff like sun screen that keeps them from biting me.

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It must be a Factor 5000 sunblock. http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/DUSTY63/10101643ABoris-Karloff-The-Mummy-Po.jpg

Bigg_Budd
01-21-2010, 18:20
get a suit, dude. i scraped my calf against some coral in florida one year and had a rash that didn't go away for a month.

i also dove the oriskany without a suit, but that's another story...

bigman241
01-21-2010, 18:21
llol. He did not say it was sun block but something you rub on like sunblock. LOL


I asked about the jellyfish, coral and such. He told me they sell this stuff like sun screen that keeps them from biting me.

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It must be a Factor 5000 sunblock. http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/DUSTY63/10101643ABoris-Karloff-The-Mummy-Po.jpg

j1j2j38
01-21-2010, 19:04
wet suit!

bigman241
01-21-2010, 19:27
Wetsuit it is not like it is 1000

Okc_diver
01-21-2010, 19:28
I would get a wetsuit. I dove last May wearing my 3mm wetsuit and a hood. Had one person ask why everyone was wearing wetsuits the reply was "incase the current pushes us into the fire coral it would provide some protection" and I said I wear the wetsuit and hood so I don't get sunburnt (I keep my head shaved).

bigman241
01-21-2010, 19:45
Ya coral worried me. Plus the day before we leave I am buzzing my hair off not sure why. Just that it needs cut and normally I buzz it off.
I would get a wetsuit. I dove last May wearing my 3mm wetsuit and a hood. Had one person ask why everyone was wearing wetsuits the reply was "incase the current pushes us into the fire coral it would provide some protection" and I said I wear the wetsuit and hood so I don't get sunburnt (I keep my head shaved).

Splitlip
01-21-2010, 19:55
A skin if nothing else. DO NOT dive with a tee shirt during sea lice season. You are better off going with just skin. The jellyfish get trapped under the shirt.
When I wear a wetsuit, the only place I have gottem them is around my neck seal. So I started using Safe Sea as my sunblock of choice. Seams to work. Safe Sea stops jellyfish & sea lice stings! (http://www.buysafesea.com/)

You will often see people applying it UNDER their suits, as that is wear the critters get you.

CompuDude
01-21-2010, 20:49
I know plenty of people who wear 5mm suits in Coz.

Get a wetsuit.

Vlane
01-21-2010, 23:00
I'd also recommend getting a wetsuit. When we were getting back on the boat in the Bahamas a swarm of jellyfish about the size of a quarter washed through and they got a few people, thankfully I rented a suit. The stings weren't bad by any means from what others said but just a minor annoyance that could have been avoided.

firstdive2005
01-24-2010, 02:32
July-Dec I wear just a rash guard shirt. I go home with Hydroid tatoos usually. Jan-end March 3mil, April-June usually just core warmer. Gotta watch out for the jellie season like already reported. When breaking surface I've had to use my octo to clear a path to the surface so my face wouldnt get hit.
Take a 3mil cant make a mistake there.:smiley2:

chilly willy
01-24-2010, 06:38
Wetsuit or rash guard, you never know what kinds of scrapes or stings you might run into.

BuzzGA
01-24-2010, 10:08
I've got to echo what so many others have said...go with the wetsuit. It's just too easy to find the random jelly or some other critter. If I'm in the water, I have some sort of exposure protection. Teh ride home just ends up more comfortable

DivingCRNA
01-24-2010, 10:20
I dove in Coz in October in swim trunks without issue. I was about 200# at the time.

The people who usually dive in 5 mm suits in the tropics are REALLY thin people, which you are not. So do not go too thick with the wetsuit. A skin might be best.

1) I do not remember any coral close to the shore in Coz, I believe this is why it is nearly all boat diving there. The resort I was at there, the Occidental Grand, was all sand at the pier.

2) Why are you worrying about YOU getting injured bumping the coral???? STAY AWAY FROM THE CORAL. Bumping it kills it and ruins the ecosystem and ruins the experience for divers that come after you. DO NOT TOUCH, KICK, POKE OR TOUCH THE CORAL! As a newb, stay at least 5 feet away so you don't ruin it for other people and kill what people are there to see.

3) Stay away from the coral

4)Stay away from the coral

5)STAY AWAY FROM THE CORAL.

j1j2j38
01-24-2010, 13:07
when are jellies worst?

bigman241
01-24-2010, 13:51
SO I SHOULD STAY VERY CLOSE TO THE CORAL RIGHT> :smiley36::smiley36::smiley36:
I am alittle more worried about me getting hurt about I also do not want to damage anything. Just alittle worry I am thinking I am going to get a skin from scubatoys as they can get me a custom henderson hotskin. but STAY WAY FROM THE COREL.
I dove in Coz in October in swim trunks without issue. I was about 200# at the time.

The people who usually dive in 5 mm suits in the tropics are REALLY thin people, which you are not. So do not go too thick with the wetsuit. A skin might be best.

1) I do not remember any coral close to the shore in Coz, I believe this is why it is nearly all boat diving there. The resort I was at there, the Occidental Grand, was all sand at the pier.

2) Why are you worrying about YOU getting injured bumping the coral???? STAY AWAY FROM THE CORAL. Bumping it kills it and ruins the ecosystem and ruins the experience for divers that come after you. DO NOT TOUCH, KICK, POKE OR TOUCH THE CORAL! As a newb, stay at least 5 feet away so you don't ruin it for other people and kill what people are there to see.

3) Stay away from the coral

4)Stay away from the coral

5)STAY AWAY FROM THE CORAL.

awap
01-24-2010, 14:14
when are jellies worst?

April is the normal time for annual thimble jellies and their spawn known as sea lice. The sea lice will collect between you and anything you wear that is loose. A t-shirt can really get you eaten up but even a loose wetsuit colar is a collection point. To a certain degree you can see and avoid the swarms of thimble jellies but once the boat drifts into a swarm while deploying or recovering divers you just have to be quick. They are up within 10 ft or so of the surface so not a problem at depth.

Other jellies are less predictable and rarely in any significant concentration. In the last 10 years, we did once encounter a bloom of warty jellyfish. They are fairly small but have tentacles that can be extended up to about 4 ft. They to are mostly towards the surface but may be washed down to 40 - 60 ft also. If you poke them, they will withdraw their tentacles to only a couple inches. It is entertaining to F%$%# with one during a rest stop until his buddy passing a few feet over you seeks revenge on your exposed face and hands. The sting was quite noticeable but not overly painful or long lasting. At depth, you can nudge one into a coral and the coral will eat them.

j1j2j38
01-24-2010, 14:47
how quickly can a coral eat a jellyfish?

awap
01-24-2010, 15:05
how quickly can a coral eat a jellyfish?

You will see the polyps emerge almost immediately and go to work. It is not that you will see the jelly disappear but the polyps will grab it and hold it, even pulling it closer giving more polyps a chance to emerge and grad on. If you run into a bunch of the little critters that are attracted to your light at night, you can do the same thing by moving the light and critter close to a coral head. the result is a bunch of little critters stuck to the coral.

Smashee
01-24-2010, 15:29
So are these jellies an invasive species, like lionfish are over there?

j1j2j38
01-24-2010, 16:18
that's cool

DevilDiver
01-24-2010, 16:31
So are these jellies an invasive species, like lionfish are over there?


No, fairly common especially in areas off shore where surface currents will move them out and into deeper waters where they develop and get ready to start the process over next year.

"Sea Lice" are actually the larva of the Sea Thimble Jellies, but it is common to blame random unknown stings and irritations on "Sea Lice" even out of season.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3239/2301258156_47fd065544.jpg
Sea Thimble (Linuche unguiculata)
Size: 1/2"-3/4"
Appear in swarms in springtime.
Yucatan, Mexico

Smashee
01-24-2010, 16:57
No, fairly common especially in areas off shore where surface currents will move them out and into deeper waters where they develop and get ready to start the process over next year.

Sea Thimble (Linuche unguiculata)
Size: 1/2"-3/4"
Appear in swarms in springtime.
Yucatan, Mexico

Cute little beggars, ain't they? :smiley36:

We got a whole variety of jellies over here. Most of which will make you want to gnaw your own arm off if you get tagged by them. They still look cool, though.

j1j2j38
01-24-2010, 16:59
yeah. nice picture

road master
01-24-2010, 19:33
Dove cozmel last Christmas , have been diving a couple years now,
You should have some kind of protection,you can get pushed up, against the correl by the currents or a unexperinced diver by accident, and that stuff burns. I suggest at least a full skin, or long 3m.
Road Master