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pershing
02-20-2010, 22:14
Hello guys/gals...

My wife and I are looking for our next camera. We have narrowed it to either Canon G11 and Canon S90. However the two things that has me still undecided are:
1) Will I loose anything by the fact the S90 does not have a hot shoe?
2) I noticed when you half press the shutter button the G11 shows a zoomed in image of the focus point so you can tell if you are in focus, does the S90 have this feature. When I played with it I saw that it shot right away, could not get it to half press and also the zoomed in center came in the preview and now before taking the pic. Anybody who owns the S90 or both could you clarify these questions. I would be happy with the G11 but the size and price savings of the S90 are hard to ignore. Any help is appreciated. Thanks...

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Nemrod
02-21-2010, 00:12
The S90 does have a half press but if you push the shutter down all the way it will shoot. The half press is easy to do with the S90, maybe you just need to lighten up. Now, I can only speak for the FIX housing but I can FEEL the half press just fine.

I chose the S90 because of it's ability to accept wet lenses in the FIX housing, the fast lens and the ability to control directly the shutter speed and the f stop with the FIX housing, something the S90 is unique with even including most dSLRs and the small, packable size.

Yes, if you push the shutter straight down, the S90 will shoot.

A hot shoe is of no importance to me, a negative in fact. I have two optical Inon D2000 strobes, don't need a hot shoe and the only housing that can use the hot shoe with the G11 is the Ikelite housing when used with an Ikelite strobe both of which are too large for me, I want a carry on luggage rig.

BTW, yes, you can do a half press and check focus, it is covered on page 85 of the manual which can be downloaded from the Canon web page under support I think it is. You have to turn this function on under Menu.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/JRWJR/experiments/P2200271.jpg

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ScubaCaveman
02-21-2010, 07:46
I had the same dilemma. I actually bought the G11 and then sold it a few months later. It was too large and bulky for its purpose IMHO. I went with the S90 and couldn't be happier. I think it is a great little camera.

pershing
02-21-2010, 10:16
Thanks for the feedback. Im leaning towards the S90, I just cant ignore the 400 savings on just the housing alone.

pershing
02-21-2010, 10:16
How is the dual knob handling with diving gloves? Any issues?

Nemrod
02-21-2010, 10:46
The Ikelite and Canon housings only allow use of the front ring, the FIX allows use of both front and rear ring controls via two knobs. How would they work with gloves, don't know, probably as poorly as any camera does with thick gloves and better than most.

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mitsuguy
02-21-2010, 15:50
unless going full TTL with a SLR, I can't imagine needing / wanting a hot shoe...

also, you can half press easily, even with the Canon housing... the slightly larger aperture is definitely a nice feature of the S90 over the G11, and of course, the S90 is half the size of the G11...

there is an easy workaround to use the rear control dial on the S90, you simply hold the shortcut button, then use left and right buttons... it would be nice to have that feature like the FIX does (allowing full use of the rear ring), but, the Canon housing does just fine for the $170 I paid for mine...

pershing
02-22-2010, 09:55
Could someone verify that the FIX S90 enclosure has the standard tripod mount or something different like the Ilelite dual screw system. Have not seen any pics from the bottom up. Thanks...

Nemrod
02-22-2010, 20:22
Could someone verify that the FIX S90 enclosure has the standard tripod mount or something different like the Ilelite dual screw system. Have not seen any pics from the bottom up. Thanks...

I think I answered your question in the other thread where you asked the same thing, lol.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/JRWJR/experiments/P2200263.jpg

It has two tripod sockets, 1/4X20 threads. The Ikelite uses two 12X24. The DIY adapter above installs the FIX90 onto a Ikelite tray.

Here is my Ikelite tray with my DIY adapter for the FIX and arms for accessories:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/JRWJR/experiments/DSCF0017.jpg



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pershing
02-23-2010, 07:18
Yeah you did, I had asked it on one thread and then asked it on the other since I did not get a quick answer here. It made it real clear. Thanks. So I think I have all my requirements clear. It uses Ikelite style fixing bolts to the tray. I can use both Sea and Sea and Inon fiber optic cable with the adapter they sell, right? I can use 67mm wet lenses with the adapter they also sell. I think its a matter now of ordering one and playing with the tray handle configuration. Wait, how is the shutter trigger, I think I saw a lever, how well does it work. Sorry for the questions but Im going to buy 2 of these and want to make sure I dont get any surprises.

Nemrod
02-23-2010, 11:16
The lever is actually an advantage, why you ask? Because it allows more travel and thus more feel or feedback. The lever release allows you to feel the half press very easily. A push button is direct, has less travel and is more difficult to feel or get feedback as to position. IMO, for what it is worth, I would much prefer a lever and most premium housings have a lever, not a button.

The strobe cable adapter comes with the housing, the little blanking shield is extra, some people will probably just use electrical tape. The adapter has holes for Inon optical cables and I assume the other two holes are for Sea & Sea and YS.

TWO!!!???!!!??? Why?

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pershing
02-23-2010, 13:10
Was asking about the lever because a) I prefer and from the pictures it looked like a front to back lever but was not sure and b) Thinking of my tray handle to lever distance and angles, thinking of buying a new tray with slots rather than holes to slide the handle to where it feels more comfortable. On my previous rig I had to modify the tray cause my hand was uncomfortable between the handle and the shutter lever. As to the cable, Im thinking of using one sea and sea 27dx and one INON and did not know if I should cable both to the adapter or trigger one optically with the other, had failures with optical fires when pointing the strobes at an angle. But I think Im starting to think this will be my next rig. Thanks for all the input...

Nemrod
02-23-2010, 13:44
No, the lever is left to right and pushes down on the front right corner of the housing. This camera housing is so small once you get it, whatever you are planning now will change--guaranteed.

I see no problem with optical connection of the strobes, both to the FIX plug.

Good luck.

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pershing
02-23-2010, 13:51
Thanks. Wont be for another few months, but if I get it ready I will post some pics. Got to dismantle all my current rigs and see how can I maximize the parts I already have :) ... Fun fun...