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DiverBob
09-05-2007, 16:15
If you were going to buy a new mask, which one would it be?

I know this may be a "Ford vs Chevy" question as there are lot's of good masks on the market. I already own a Mares X-vision which I really like but it is three years old and has some minor cracks in the outer frame. Need to buy a backup/replacement. Looking for opinions and input from personal experience with recommended model.

I would want it to be low volume and dual lenses for prescription.

Thanks in advance!!

Vercingetorix
09-05-2007, 17:10
Buy the one that fits and feels comfortable for you. (I know that's a statement of the obvious; I apologize) You're right in that this is a Ford vs. Chevy question. You'll get no definitive answer.

Aussie
09-05-2007, 17:18
I like my Tusa m14 or the copies of it. I use daily contacts with it. The copies out there are alot cheaper (Apollo). Its a big mask and wont fit some faces. But if your a little on the bigger side its the best I have used so far.

Aussie

BSea
09-05-2007, 17:20
Since you like the X-vision, have you looked at the liquid skin X-vision (http://www.scubatoys.com/store/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=LiquidskinMask)? I too have an X-vision, and it's been my favorite mask, but I'm looking for a new mask also, so this 1 is high on the list.

mm_dm
09-05-2007, 20:02
I use the low-volume, black, 2 lense mask that Zeagle makes. I went through four or five masks before I snagged this one. I think it's the Ebon 5105.

jpatmore
09-05-2007, 20:19
Different masks fit different faces, so what might be a great mask for one person may not work for someone else.

Saying that I bought the Oceanic shadow on my open water course a few years ago, and it's still going strong.... great mask, I love it. My wife has a very small face, and she uses the mini shadow ... same mask but for smaller faces.

karycrystal
09-05-2007, 21:33
Try the Cressi Matrix, good price also. It is a very comfortable mask. Me and my husband both have one. I plan on ordering another one as a back up.

Aussie
09-05-2007, 21:41
Try the Cressi Matrix, good price also. It is a very comfortable mask. Me and my husband both have one. I plan on ordering another one as a back up.

I have the Cressi Big Eyes as a backup. I think its the old version of the Matrix.

The Mares X-vision would be a great mask if only the frame was made alot stronger.

Cockroaches love eating my black mask skirt. We have them big over here.

Aussie

Flatliner
09-05-2007, 22:20
This may seem obvious but...

1.) You own an X Vision and like it. (doesn't fit my face but I like the way it looks.
2.) The X Vision is a very affordable mask.
3.) Buy another X Vision

Bigg_Budd
09-05-2007, 23:36
Atomic Aquatics Sub-Frame.

DiverBob
09-05-2007, 23:56
This may seem obvious but...

1.) You own an X Vision and like it. (doesn't fit my face but I like the way it looks.
2.) The X Vision is a very affordable mask.
3.) Buy another X Vision

Seems obvious... but I don't like the fact that the frame seems to crack easily.

Take a look at the "Mares X-Vision frame cracking" thread. After reading it I found the same cracks in my mask. That's why I am inquiring about what other brand recommendations I would get from experienced divers.

CC1020
09-06-2007, 10:21
Obviously, fit is the primary concern, but the Atomic Frameless is very low-volume, comfortable and easy to clear.

Bigg_Budd
09-06-2007, 10:30
Obviously, fit is the primary concern, but the Atomic Frameless is very low-volume, comfortable and easy to clear.

And built for small faces. If you are a bigger dude, or have a big melon (like me), it's not an option. But I wish it was, it's a sweet mask...

Scuba-Bill
09-06-2007, 10:52
Oceanic Shadow Ice. I have been diving it for a couple of years now and love it. The skirt on the ICE version is translucent and allows light through helping to eliminate that feeling of being closed in...

The key to finding the right mask is trying on several. My old LDS let me try out several masks in their pool until I found one that worked well.

Good luck.

Bill22
09-06-2007, 11:44
I owned a Mares Santiago that I used for years. I had the prescription lenses for it. I don't think they make it anymore. Don't need the prescription lenses since I had PRK four years ago :-)

The mask I have now is a Cressi-Sub Ocean Eyes. It's a nice mask but seems to have a tendency to leak a little when I'm diving with it. It fit fine in the dive shop, but seems to behave a little differently when I'm underwater. Just because it ends up leaking for me doesn't mean it would leak for someone else of course :-)

Like Budd, I'm thinking about the Atomic Aquatics Sub-Frame also. I just need to make it over to a dive shop so I can try it on :-)

I'm also considering the XS Scuba MA280 because of the "gauge reader" feature. I can see distance fine, but as I've gotten older now I nead some help to see up close :-)

I've got the Dive Optx lenses now that just stick to the inside of your mask and those work well. I've made about five dives with them and they seem to be holding up okay.

munitor
09-06-2007, 14:58
My wife and I have a box full of masks we have tried and discarded over the years. Last year I bought a dive rite frameless, single lens, mostly because it was guaranteed to fit. I tried it and it was great. My wife tried it and it fit her, too! Trust me when I say we have very different face structure, as we have never been able to use the same mask.

We now have 4 of these masks - two with prescription inserts for me, two without for her. Kept in Otter box 3500s when we travel.

Charles R
09-06-2007, 15:08
I own 2 of the Halcyon masks and love them I got them online from www.wreckdiversupply.com (http://www.wreckdiversupply.com) and I wont buy anything else. but they fit my face and don't leak!:smilie40:

Bill22
09-06-2007, 16:27
My wife and I have a box full of masks we have tried and discarded over the years. Last year I bought a dive rite frameless, single lens, mostly because it was guaranteed to fit. I tried it and it was great. My wife tried it and it fit her, too! Trust me when I say we have very different face structure, as we have never been able to use the same mask.

We now have 4 of these masks - two with prescription inserts for me, two without for her. Kept in Otter box 3500s when we travel.

I remember looking at those on another website. It looked like a nice mask. It's been on my short list along with the Atomic. I was intrigued by DiveRite's claim that their mask would fit anyone. You're the first person to confirm that is true!

Problem is I can't buy the Atomic online although I have an offer from someone to sell me his because it didn't fit. Truthfully that makes me a little leery, even though he did offer me a very good price ;-)

I've been trying to convince myself to buy another mask since mine has a tendency to leak... not bad, but I find myself stopping to clear every so often. I don't remember having to do that so much before. I tried three different rental masks when I was in the Philippines and they all leaked to.

I don't see the DiveRite on the scubatoys site. I should send an email and check if they can get them.

Xspect
09-06-2007, 17:23
After 5 mask. Shadow Ice !!!

NavyDM
09-06-2007, 20:02
If your script falls into the levels for a hydro optix mask take a look at it. I am on my 2nd one. I don't think I could go back to a normal mask. It uses the water as a lense and corrects depth perception, and it has a wider field of view then a normal mask also.

munitor
09-06-2007, 20:16
I just noticed the "dual lens" requirement for prescriptions. I used prescriptiondivemasks.com for my bonded inserts in my single lens dive rite masks. Have worked out great, so I'm not sure that you'd need the separate lenses.

Foo2
09-06-2007, 23:43
I also have a Mares X-Vision. It's a really nice mask...but it leaks on my me. It just doesn't fit my face well. I found that out the hard way in Coz. :( Anyway, Fooman2's mask fits me real nice...it's a Tusa Splendive II. Very nice with a really flexible skirt. Good luck on your search!

Travelnsj
09-07-2007, 00:38
I like my cracked Mares X vision also....my back up mask is a Scuba Pro...not quite the same field of vision as the Mares....but no cracks.

Capt Hook
09-09-2007, 17:54
Like Tusa masks, been diving them for years.

rubberduck
09-13-2007, 13:57
Atomic Aquatics Sub-Frame. It hasn't leaked yet and I like the field of view.

jwdizney
09-13-2007, 14:05
i just switched from a Mares X-Vision to a Tusa M24 and LOVE IT! had some leaking issues with the Mares, but the Tusa skirt seems softer and a more 'adaptable' fit...

(got it from ST too!! check out the 'new stuff')

DiverBob
09-13-2007, 16:49
Since I started this thread I want to thank everyone who posted the comments, recommendations and opinions on the very wide variety of masks available on the market today. I did make a decision earlier in the week and ordered the new Mares Liquid Skin X-Vision mask (black and silver) from Scuba Toys. (love that 10% discount! Thanks guys!) Got it today via UPS!! Fast Service as usual.
http://www.diverbob.com/photoalbum/images/mares/lskin.gif

I went to my LDS with my old X-Vision mask (that has the small cracks in the outer frame) to compare it to the new X-Vision mask. It appears Mares has beefed up the plastic a little bit by the "locking tabs" that were prone to cracking on the older X-Vision. I guess time will tell. I really like the X-Vision mask and never have had a leaking problem since they fit my face well... why knock what works is my motto! :smiley2:

I didn't order it with full script lenses because all I need is the bifocal inserts for reading my computer. My arms aren't quite long enough anymore... it's hell getting old! :smiley36:

I will be diving in St. Thomas next month and look forward to using the new mask. I will be sure to post a review of how well it works for me.

Thanks again for all the great input! Excellent forum..

Bob

subsur
09-13-2007, 19:04
the one that fits me the best. i'd be choosing a low volume, either single window or 2 lenses, no side windows, and with a black skirt.

FXWX
09-13-2007, 20:36
The ultra clear glass on atomic masks looked better than my old mask when I checked it in the store. The first time in the water, clear Florida spring water, I was pleasantly surprized. My buddy tried mine and liked it, so he has one, too. We use the frameless, black silicone.

mm_dm
09-13-2007, 20:45
I'd buy the cheapest one, then several others until I finally spent some real money on one that actually fit. Based on a true story...no names have been used to protect the innocent..whoever that is.

Bill22
09-16-2007, 05:30
Finally made it into an LDS today and tried the Atomic Aquatics Sub-Frame. Got a very good seal from it but the frame pressed directly against the lower part of my forehead just above the bridge of my nose, at a point right between my eyebrows. I can just imagine how much pain that would cause at depth, so I guess I'll be crossing that one off my list.

Travelnsj
09-16-2007, 09:13
Finally made it into an LDS today and tried the Atomic Aquatics Sub-Frame. Got a very good seal from it but the frame pressed directly against the lower part of my forehead just above the bridge of my nose, at a point right between my eyebrows. I can just imagine how much pain that would cause at depth, so I guess I'll be crossing that one off my list.

When I tried both the frameless and sub frame....great seal...fit great even in the pool...once at any depth the same thing as you felt the pressure on forehead and they leaked....now I am stuck with a sub frame I need to sell.

divinginn
09-16-2007, 10:11
i bought a cheap mask off ebay a dacor for 18 dollars just trying to find one that didnt leak,that one worked out so good i bought another one for back up and am thinking of getting another just in case,best masks i have ever had.

Flatliner
09-24-2007, 21:39
This may seem obvious but...

1.) You own an X Vision and like it. (doesn't fit my face but I like the way it looks.
2.) The X Vision is a very affordable mask.
3.) Buy another X Vision

Seems obvious... but I don't like the fact that the frame seems to crack easily.

Take a look at the "Mares X-Vision frame cracking" thread. After reading it I found the same cracks in my mask. That's why I am inquiring about what other brand recommendations I would get from experienced divers.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be a smart a&%. I missed that little detail.
I use the sea dive by aqua lung. While I would no longer purchase an aqua lung product because of their socialist marketing policies I really love the mask.

ccarter
09-25-2007, 09:09
But I use Oceanic Shadow Minis..

They crunch down small so I can keep a spare in my BC pocket (I have contacts) and fit my face well..

K-Valve
09-25-2007, 10:55
Finally made it into an LDS today and tried the Atomic Aquatics Sub-Frame. Got a very good seal from it but the frame pressed directly against the lower part of my forehead just above the bridge of my nose, at a point right between my eyebrows. I can just imagine how much pain that would cause at depth, so I guess I'll be crossing that one off my list.

I have an Atomics Aquatic Sub-Frame and have the same problem. I can feel it pressing on my forehead exactly in the spot you are referring to when I don't have it positioned just right. Keep in mind that this is a low volume mask. It's supposed to sit close to your face.

I've dove it to 165'. As you descend and feel pressure in your mask you simply blow out your nose to add air inside the mask...as you would do with any mask. So, that's no big deal. It shouldn't leak if you blow in too much air. The extra air simply exhausts out of the side of the mask, but water shouldn't come pouring in...think about the physics.

I sometimes come up with a little red mark on my forehead, but other than that the mask is awesome.

mulefeathers
09-25-2007, 13:03
You have already bought one but if you get the chance try the Mares Demon Mask

Buoyant1
09-26-2007, 06:58
Just go to a shop that has a whole buncha masks, and try them on!

That's the only way to tell!

Clanggedin
09-27-2007, 12:17
I have an Atomic Frameless and it works perfectly for me. No leaks and no redness. I must not have a cromagnan forehead like you guys do. :smiley36: