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bennerman
05-25-2010, 09:00
Ok, so I have had back pain for the last few months, specifically the lower back and under. Lately, it has moved to my left leg. My back is now fine, but I can barely move my left leg at this point. It is possible that it is psychological (a good 40% likely), based on what has been going on lately. The doctor said it is because I weigh too much, but I have actually been losing weight as it started getting worse, so I am not sure. Any ideas? Keeping in mind we can't afford chiropractors, physiotherapists, what-have-you.

Straegen
05-25-2010, 09:20
Cannot move due to pain or physically cannot move it? Numbness or tingling? Pain come out of nowhere or was it an injury?

bennerman
05-25-2010, 09:23
Cannot move due to pain or physically cannot move it? Numbness or tingling? Pain come out of nowhere or was it an injury?

Can't move because of the pain, and it came out of nowhere (to my knowledge, anyway. but no injury in particular comes to mind).

Straegen
05-25-2010, 09:55
Shooting, constant, pulsing or when you move it? Sharp or dull? Any loss of strength?

bennerman
05-25-2010, 14:32
Shooting, constant, pulsing or when you move it? Sharp or dull? Any loss of strength?

Pulsing, dull, and a little loss of strength

navyhmc
05-25-2010, 15:06
2 things come to mind: Sciatica and pinched nerve. Both can be related to weight and with your recent back pain could be a side effect.

bennerman
05-25-2010, 15:16
Well, it isn't weight that is a problem. I have weighed 280 for the past year consistently. However, I have gone down 6 belt holes, so it is more fat than weight (W00T, btw)

CaughtSteelin
05-25-2010, 17:43
2 things come to mind: Sciatica and pinched nerve. Both can be related to weight and with your recent back pain could be a side effect.


B- I have what navy just said and a few more other things. And it almost sounds like you do to. Except mine started with lifting something heavy wrong.

Try take it easy for a few days then exercise lightly. Light walks...lots and lots of stretching. If you can get a hold of some muscle relaxers, do it. Just hope your pain tolerance is high...

snagel
05-25-2010, 18:02
Pain, numbness, weakness down a leg is usually nerve issues or as navy said Sciatica (which is a nerve issue). I'm not a doctor, but have had my share of back and leg issues. Last year I woke up with the most intense pain in my left leg (no injury, just woke up in pain). I've had a history of lower back strains, but this was much more. After a MRI, I have a bulged disc and a ruptured disc in the lower back. I spent two months being the "laziest person on the earth" (doctors orders wife heard it). Today, I have the occassional pain if I over do it, but my left foot and left shin are totally numb. Doctor explains this really as pain that the body is masking as numbness. As explained to me, the discs have collapsed and the bone is touching the nerve endings causing the numbness. I've learned to live with it; although, it does get a little crazy when walking on unstable surfaces. They can go in and shave the bone off or maybe someday rebuild the discs. I've elected to live with it until I have to do something and hopefully the medical community will get better (although they can do some amazing things already).

My guess is that you are having issues with the nerve endings being compressed. The extra weight does not help because it forces the spine into weird positions. At some point, it has to give out due to the weight. Dropping weight will definately help. I'm living in a glass house and throwing stones here, because I'm about 30 pounds overweight and truely know that dropping it would probably help out tremendously, but you know how that goes.

To know for sure, you will need a MRI. This will tell you exactly what the problem is. But, they are not cheap. Take at easy for a few days and it should lessen up. If it continues to give you pain, it needs to be looked at.

Snagel

bennerman
05-25-2010, 18:20
Pain, numbness, weakness down a leg is usually nerve issues or as navy said Sciatica (which is a nerve issue). I'm not a doctor, but have had my share of back and leg issues. Last year I woke up with the most intense pain in my left leg (no injury, just woke up in pain). I've had a history of lower back strains, but this was much more. After a MRI, I have a bulged disc and a ruptured disc in the lower back. I spent two months being the "laziest person on the earth" (doctors orders wife heard it). Today, I have the occassional pain if I over do it, but my left foot and left shin are totally numb. Doctor explains this really as pain that the body is masking as numbness. As explained to me, the discs have collapsed and the bone is touching the nerve endings causing the numbness. I've learned to live with it; although, it does get a little crazy when walking on unstable surfaces. They can go in and shave the bone off or maybe someday rebuild the discs. I've elected to live with it until I have to do something and hopefully the medical community will get better (although they can do some amazing things already).

My guess is that you are having issues with the nerve endings being compressed. The extra weight does not help because it forces the spine into weird positions. At some point, it has to give out due to the weight. Dropping weight will definately help. I'm living in a glass house and throwing stones here, because I'm about 30 pounds overweight and truely know that dropping it would probably help out tremendously, but you know how that goes.

To know for sure, you will need a MRI. This will tell you exactly what the problem is. But, they are not cheap. Take at easy for a few days and it should lessen up. If it continues to give you pain, it needs to be looked at.

Snagel

Actually it is very cheap... aka free... health care :smiley20:

bennerman
05-25-2010, 18:23
Also it has been a few days... 3 or 4 months to be precise

BSea
05-25-2010, 20:27
As Snagel said, you'll need an MRI to know for sure. I had exactly what you describe, and mine was a blown disc. I spent about a year trying everything to get some relief including chiropractor, therapy, injections, just about anything you could think of. In the end I had back surgery, then 9 months later, I had it again. I now have a titanium clamp that basically locks my L4 & L5 vertebrae. The doctor told me after my 2nd surgery that I needed to take it easier than I did after the 1st operation. He said that there were no guarantees that my back is fixed for good, and that it would take at least a year before I was close to normal. He was right. It's been a little over a year since my last surgery, and it's only been in the last few months that the pain has totally gone away. I still feel sore & stiff the next day if I've been real active, but even that isn't as bad as it was a few months ago.

All in all, it's been a 3 year process. I wondered if I would ever be back to myself again. Now I'm not suggesting you need surgery. That's for you and your doctor to decide. Today, I'm glad I had the surgery. But I had my doubts during the first 6 months following my 2nd operation.

The hard part is getting back into shape. But that is coming back too. Just really slowly. :)

bennerman
05-25-2010, 20:32
my mom doesn't believe me because she herniated a disk a week before this started with me :/

Straegen
05-25-2010, 22:40
Sciatica is a good possibility. When you take medications do any help and if so what kinds?

Do you have any or have you had any larger sores in the area particularly ones that left a scar or took an abnormally long time to heal?

bennerman
05-25-2010, 22:44
Sciatica is a good possibility. When you take medications do any help and if so what kinds?

Do you have any or have you had any larger sores in the area particularly ones that left a scar or took an abnormally long time to heal?

NSAIDs help (ibuprophen, particularly). Rub-a535 works well, too. There are no visible marks whatsoever

oddbod
05-26-2010, 04:36
Bennermen'
Just saw your age, most of the replies are probably from people a lot older and more worn out than you, please go get a second opinion from another doctor, a specialist if possible.

bennerman
05-26-2010, 05:37
And of course I would have a cramp in my one good leg this morning >.>

Alright, I will see if I can get into the doctor.

DivingCRNA
05-26-2010, 06:57
B-I treat back pain and sciatica for a living. Get and MRI. I bet that because of your weight and it's cumulative effect, you have L3-4 or L4-5 bulging into the foramen causing your leg pain.

Get an MRI. See a doctor.

bennerman
05-26-2010, 08:27
B-I treat back pain and sciatica for a living. Get and MRI. I bet that because of your weight and it's cumulative effect, you have L3-4 or L4-5 bulging into the foramen causing your leg pain.

Get an MRI. See a doctor.

Can I get your specific field and credentials so I can convince my mom that you are credible? I will need an expert's opinion or she won't believe me and let me go to the doctor

MagnaBoxer
05-26-2010, 11:59
you have L3-4 or L4-5 bulging into the foramen causing your leg pain.

That's what I have, pain in my lower back, but only a "loss of sensation" in my right leg. Went to the chiropractor for 15 sessions and did absolutely no good. Saw my normal Dr and he sent me for an MRI which clearly showed the damage. My Dr then sent me to a neurosurgeon who made the diagnosis and gave my options for treatment. First he prescribed Ultracet (pain reliever) and Skelaxin (muscle relaxer) and physical therapy. I still felt discomfort. Neither of the drugs did much for me so I quit taking them after a month and tried to just "live with it" for a while.

Due to my active lifestyle, and the inability to exercise normally due to the discomfort, I went back to my normal Dr a couple months after stopping the meds prescribed by the neurosurgeon. After explaining how the first meds did me no good, and that I'd stopped taking them, he prescribed Celebrex for me. Been on it about a month now and although I still have the loss of sensation in my right leg, I'm much more comfortable as long as I don't overdo it.

In my case, my normal Dr explained that it was doing me no good to take the muscle relaxers as my injury is not muscle related. As others have said, go see a Dr and most likely you'll end up getting an MRI that will help in diagnosing the problem. One thing I can recommend is ICE. The therapist emphasized that I should be icing my back each evening while watching tv or relaxing and this helped me tremendously. My wife bought a refreezable pack that has an elastic strap. The strap wraps around your waist, and then it velcro's to itself. I wrap it around my back each night while reading or watching TV for about an hour before bed time. Helps a lot.

Chilly
05-26-2010, 13:29
Ok, so I have had back pain for the last few months, specifically the lower back and under. Lately, it has moved to my left leg. My back is now fine, but I can barely move my left leg at this point. It is possible that it is psychological (a good 40% likely), based on what has been going on lately. The doctor said it is because I weigh too much, but I have actually been losing weight as it started getting worse, so I am not sure. Any ideas? Keeping in mind we can't afford chiropractors, physiotherapists, what-have-you.

Bennerman,

Check out the Back Attack Negotiator (http://spinecarefitness.com/2010/04/the-back-attack-negotiator/) on my wife's web site. You'll have to subscribe to get the video, but it's still free.

The Spine Care & Back Pain 101 videos on this page will also help you understand what's going on with your back and how it affects your legs.

I hope this helps you out.

bennerman
05-26-2010, 14:00
The next appointment isn't until F***ing July 5th :/

Straegen
05-26-2010, 14:49
If an anti-inflammatory knocks down the pain I am betting on disc compression or some other compression on a nerve (probably the sciatica). An MRI might not catch it if the problem is in the piriformis but it is the first thing to rule out.

bennerman
05-26-2010, 14:54
This is actually why I bought webbed gloves, incase this is something perminant

DivingCRNA
05-26-2010, 15:26
you have L3-4 or L4-5 bulging into the foramen causing your leg pain.

That's what I have, pain in my lower back, but only a "loss of sensation" in my right leg. Went to the chiropractor for 15 sessions and did absolutely no good. Saw my normal Dr and he sent me for an MRI which clearly showed the damage. My Dr then sent me to a neurosurgeon who made the diagnosis and gave my options for treatment. First he prescribed Ultracet (pain reliever) and Skelaxin (muscle relaxer) and physical therapy. I still felt discomfort. Neither of the drugs did much for me so I quit taking them after a month and tried to just "live with it" for a while.

Due to my active lifestyle, and the inability to exercise normally due to the discomfort, I went back to my normal Dr a couple months after stopping the meds prescribed by the neurosurgeon. After explaining how the first meds did me no good, and that I'd stopped taking them, he prescribed Celebrex for me. Been on it about a month now and although I still have the loss of sensation in my right leg, I'm much more comfortable as long as I don't overdo it.

In my case, my normal Dr explained that it was doing me no good to take the muscle relaxers as my injury is not muscle related. As others have said, go see a Dr and most likely you'll end up getting an MRI that will help in diagnosing the problem. One thing I can recommend is ICE. The therapist emphasized that I should be icing my back each evening while watching tv or relaxing and this helped me tremendously. My wife bought a refreezable pack that has an elastic strap. The strap wraps around your waist, and then it velcro's to itself. I wrap it around my back each night while reading or watching TV for about an hour before bed time. Helps a lot.

Where in OK are you? Come to Lamar, MO and get some epidural steroid injections from me.

bennerman
05-26-2010, 15:44
my mom was told to do back exercises for her injury, should I do likewise?

bennerman
05-26-2010, 15:51
I hope your opinion is enough to convince her, CRNA. Much oblidged :)

Straegen
05-26-2010, 16:40
Don't do any significant exercising in that area until you figure out what is wrong. In some cases exercise will work, in others it can just makes things worse.