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TommyB
09-15-2010, 07:48
Explorers Jason Mallinson, Rick Stanton and John Volanthen, along with Dutch caver Rene Houben, charted new territory in a 50-hour voyage which saw them spend two nights camped deep underground.

British-led dive team ventures 5.5miles underwater to explore Pozo Azul cave system | Metro.co.uk (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/840950-british-led-dive-team-break-record-with-8-8km-cave-dive)

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They beat the 7.8km (4.8-mile) world record for the longest cave dive penetration, set last year at Wakulla Springs in Florida.

navyhmc
09-15-2010, 07:57
That is insane!!!!!

TommyB
09-15-2010, 08:00
Whole Story --

Explorers Jason Mallinson, Rick Stanton and John Volanthen, along with Dutch caver Rene Houben, charted new territory in a 50-hour voyage which saw them spend two nights camped deep underground.

‘It’s an incredible buzz to explore further than anyone has been ever before,’ said Mr Mallinson, from Huddersfield. ‘There was no wildlife down there, just a tunnel of crystal blue clear water stretching on and on.’
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Checks: Mr Houben prepares his scooter for another ride into the deep
The team could only go as far as their safety line would allow before they had to turn back.

Mr Mallinson, 43, added: ‘The adrenaline builds when you realise you are looking at something nobody has ever seen before. It’s that which drives you forward.
‘You don’t get scared. But you are permanently conscious of your equipment. If the slightest thing goes wrong then you are in a position where you might never be coming back.’

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/14/article-1284495547934-0B2DCAD6000005DC-573464_466x292.jpg Triumphant: Rick Stanton, Rene Houben, John Volanthen and Jason Mallinson emerge into the sunlight as record-holders on Monday

The team began their two-and-a-half day foray into the Pozo Azul caves in Covenera, northern Spain, on Saturday. They used ‘scooters’ to pull them through three sumps – or underwater passages.

After sump two they emerged in a small dry cave area nicknamed Tipperary. It was there they spent two nights resting and replenishing their underwater breathing mixtures.

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Base camp: Jason Mallinson (front) and the group prepare their gear
Measuring equipment told them exactly how much time they had bef*ore they used up the oxy*gen in the chamber.

They beat the 7.8km (4.8-mile) world record for the longest cave dive penetration, set last year at Wakulla Springs in Florida.
Support diver Martyn Farr, 59, said: ‘This explor*ation is akin to the first conquest of Mount Everest in 1953.’

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Jaws: Support diver Rob Dalby from Huddersfield carries equipment down through the cave opening

navyhmc
09-15-2010, 08:05
Still insane-totally insane! I notice it wasn't all underwater though. When I initially read about 40 hours in the caves, I was thinking-no frigging way-the deco would be mind boggling. Of note, I wonder where Mr. Hoeben got his hands on a MK-48 to make into a scooter. Though the drive does look a little like the old Farrallons.

Rileybri
09-15-2010, 08:31
About 20 years ago now while doing an internship with the NPS at Wind cave N.P. in Wyoming we were afforded the opportunity to explore and map about 3 miles of new virgin cave. At that point we had made it further into the cave then anyone before us and to my knowledge not many if any have made it back since. The trip took three days to complete and that did not include any diving (although there was one swim). I just cant imagine what an endeavor like theirs entailed? Just CRAZY!

Scuba Pete
09-15-2010, 09:10
You guys should read "beyond the deep" It was the story of Bill Stone's exploration of a deep cave in Mexico. They spent weeks underground not days. As far as their deco is concerned, there is a point where no matter how much longer you stay underwater you will require no more deco. Its called saturation diving. The folks in the WKPP in Florida figure their long dives in this fashion. They spend 10-12 hours at 300' total dive times if i remember correctly are around 24-27 hours. That is a long darn time to be underwater.

scubastud
09-15-2010, 09:15
Cool , but it's funny the first thing I thought was dang I wonder what they did hanging around two nights.. hope someone brought a deck of cards.

mstueven
09-15-2010, 11:20
Very cool and a great accomplishment.

A little bit apples and oranges to compare to last years Wakulla expedition I think, but definitely top notch!

Scuba Pete
09-15-2010, 11:54
Very cool and a great accomplishment.

A little bit apples and oranges to compare to last years Wakulla expedition I think, but definitely top notch!

I am not sure on this. While it is true that they stopped in an air chamber, the water is 52* depth 233'. It took them 5.5 hours to get to the air chamber where they have to worry about CO2 and lack of o2. Then they dove ahead of the air chamber laying an additional ~10,000' give or take. That may be more of a achievement than the nice warm 72* Florida water where they have many many people bringing you food, water, additional tanks, additional scooters, etc. My guess is that once they were on the far side of the air pocket, they were pretty much on their own. 52* water in a cave with less visibility than Florida. I would say it is right up there with Wakulla if not more difficult to achieve. only my opinion though. I do not want to take anything away from Wakulla though. They work extremely hard to accomplish what they have.

scubastud
09-15-2010, 12:43
Yea Pete... umm.. you said not sure on this... then explained why it is indeed apples and oranges... :smiley2:

cburkart
09-15-2010, 12:44
After sump two they emerged in a small dry cave area nicknamed Tipperary. It was there they spent two nights resting and replenishing their underwater breathing mixtures.They somehow brought a compact compressor and energy source with them and filled tanks? Am I missing something here or is this just typical journalistic license that is often taken with dive stories in the popular press?

Lenaxia
09-15-2010, 13:57
Well that'd be a hellava lot of air to carry otherwise!

And wow, I am impressed. Even more so that they made it out safely considering all the horror stories you hear about caving.

TommyB
09-15-2010, 14:05
Place , M/F , Lead

1) Turnersink-Wakullasprings,Florida,USA (L) 11255 m / 36925 ft. J.Jablonski,C.Mc. Kinlay
2) Wakullasprings ,Q-Tunnel , Florida , USA (O) 7856 m / 25776 ft. J.Jablonski, C.Mc. Kinlay
3) Wakullasprings to connection via R-Tunnel ,Florida,USA (Z) 6945 m / 22788 ft. J.Jablonski,C.Mc.Kinlay
4) Bananeiracave ,Brasilien 6400 m / 20997 ft. G.Menezes
5) Doux de Coly,Frankreich (R) 5880 m / 19291 ft. R.Buchaly,M.Waldbrenner
6) Wakullasprings O-Tunnel ,Florida,USA 5486 m / 18000 ft. G.Irvine,B.Scarabin,J.Jablonski
7) Wakullasprings P-Tunnel ,Florida,USA 5334 m / 17500 ft. J.Jablonski,C.Mc.Kinlay
8) Cathedralsink,Florida,USA 5218 m / 17119 ft. T.Leonard,B.Knudsen
9) Cal`s Cave,Chips Hole Cave System ,Florida,USA 5029 m / 16500 ft. J.Jablonski,C.Mc.Kinlay
10) Turnersink,Florida,USA 4724 m / 15500 ft. J.Jablonski,C.Mc.Kinlay
11) Big Dismalsink-Cherylsink,Florida, USA (P) 4267 m / 14000 ft. T.Cole,G.Irvine,J.Jablonski
12) Pozo Azul ,Spanien (K) 4020 m / 13188 ft. R.Buchaly , M.Schieritz
13) Wakullasprings,A-Tunnel,Florida, USA 3828 m / 12558 ft. J.Jablonski,B.Scarabin,G.Irvine
14) Turnersink downstream west , Florida , USA 3544 m / 11630 ft. J.Jablonski,C.McKinlay,M.Singer
15) Smokehousepond - Waynes world sink ,Florida, USA (S) 3535 m / 11600 ft. A.Warren,A.Conneen
16) Manateesprings,Florida, USA (BB) 3375 m / 11074 ft. T.Kincaid,J.Jablonski
17) Turnersink downstream number 2 ,Florida ,USA 3355 m / 11010 ft. J.Jablonski,C.McKinlay,D.Rhea
18) Cenote Pitch , Yucatan , Mexiko (AA) 3268 m / 10721 ft. Ph. Brunet
19) Cenote AkAlChe-Cenote Sosook, Mexico (A) 3129 m / 10266 ft. St.Bogaerts, B.Phillips
20) Kingpot-Keldhead , England (P) 3029 m / 9938 ft. R.Carter,G.Yeadon,J.Cording
G.Crosley,R.Skorupka,
21) Turnersink downstream-Indian , Florida,USA 3009 m / 9874 ft. D.Rhea,J.Rose
22) Source de Bestouan, Frankreich 3000 m / 9842 ft. M.Douchet
23) Foux de la Vis,Frankreich 2984 m / 9790 ft. R.Buchaly,M.Schieritz
24) Cogol dei Siori (fossil part) Italien (C) 2700 m / 8858 ft. L.Casati
25) Sullivansink-Cherylsink, Florida, USA (P) 2590 m / 8500 ft. B.Main,B.Gavin,
L.English,P.Turner
26) Cocklebiddycave , sump 2,Australien (T) 2561m / 8402 ft. R.Allum,P.Rogers,H.Morrison
27) Indiansprings,Florida, USA 2499 m / 8198 ft. G.Irvine C.Mc.Kinlay
B. Gavin, J. Jablonski
28) Source du Gourneyras , Frankreich (Q) 2450 m / 8038 ft. R.Kring , R.Sporrer
29) Cogol dei Veci, Italien 2370 m / 7775 ft. R.Stanton
30) Cenote Moonpod- Cenote Victoria , Mexico (A) 2332 m / 7652 ft. B.Phillips,B.Birnbach,Ch.le Maillot
31) Cenote CocaHa-Cenote Crack, Mexico (A) 2329 m / 7640 ft. B.Phillips, Ch.le Maillot,
St. Bogaerts
32) McCormicksink-Rosesink , Florida , USA (CC) 2255 m / 7400 ft. J.Heinerth , J.Murphy
33) Cenote Perla-LostTwin Cenote, Mexico (A) 2248 m / 7375 ft. B.Birnbach
34) Cogol dei Siori (active part),Italien 2200 m / 7217 ft. L.Casati
35) Luraville-Telfordspring ,Florida,USA 2194 m / 7200 ft. T.Morris,W.Jasper,L.Hires
36) Cenote Xunan Ha,Yucatan,Mexico 2168 m / 7112 ft. Ch.Depin
37) Hornsbysink, Florida, USA 2055 m / 6743 ft. S.Exley,C.Pitcairn
38) Cenote Spidge-Cenote Luz, Mexico (A) 2047 m / 6715 ft. B.Phillips,St.Bogaerts
B.Birnbach,Ch.le Maillot
39) Madison Blue springs , Florida , USA (V) 1981m / 6500 ft. J.Toland,D.Chappell
40) Grotte de la Vipère, Frankreich (M) 1962 m / 6437 ft. P.Balordi,A.Gloor
41) Cocklebiddycave , sump 3 , Australien (F) 1929m / 6328 ft. C.Challen
42) Conch Sound Blue Hole, Bahamas, USA 1897 m / 6223 ft. B.Kakuk
43) Emergence de la Bourne, Frankreich (X) 1880 m / 6167 ft. O.Isler
44) Emergence de Ressel, Frankreich 1865 m / 6118 ft. O.Isler
45) Grotte de St.Marcel,N6, Frankreich (G) 1845 m / 6053 ft. Ph.Brunet
46) Keldhead-Kingsdalemastercave, England 1830 m / 6003 ft. O.Statham,G.Yeadon
47 a) River Rise , Florida , USA (U) 1829m / 6000 ft. A.Heck, A.Warren
47 b) Port Miou ,Frankreich (D) 1829 m / 6000 ft. X.Meniscus
48) Sullivansink , Florida,USA (W) 1828 m / 5997 ft. B.Gavin,St.Irving
49) Roubidoux spring, Missouri, USA 1796 m / 5893 ft. B.Koch,B.Moore,T.OConner
50) Leopardfrogsink,Kanada (N) 1753 m / 5751 ft. D.Sawatzky
51) Cenote Tikim Chi –max.P.LSD-Section,Mexico (E) 1752 m / 5749 ft. D.Lins,L.Conlin
52) Grotte de St.Marcel,N6,Frankreich (H) 1625 m / 5331 ft. Ph.Brunet
53) Atlantidatunnel, Lanzarote 1618 m / 5308 ft. O.Isler
54) Grotte de la Coudoulière , Frankreich 1610 m / 5282 ft. P.Bolagno
55) Source de la Loue, Frankreich (B) 1580 m / 5183 ft. O.Isler
56) Cenote Caracol ,Mexiko (Y) 1570 m / 5150 ft. S.Granucci,J.LLinares
57) Source du Durzon,Frankreich 1565 m / 5134 ft. X.Meniscus
58) Cenote Chango,Yucatan,Mexico (I) 1550 m / 5085 ft. Ph.Brunet
59) Jackson Bluespring, Florida,USA 1545 m / 5069 ft. Div. USA
enter the list : 1500 meters / 4921,2 feet
Listed names are the explorers names which dived first this distance.
Listed Caves : directest way to maximum explored extention without any airbell or surface.
Limit to
(A) Part of Ox Bel Ha underwatercavesystem.
(B) From entrance to first airbell in a sidepassage (Sumplength 1720m)
(C) Longest sump of Italy
(D) From Barrage SEM to max.penetration (-179m). Seaentrance to max.penetration = 2359m
(E) Part of Dos Ojos underwatercavesystem.
(F) Sump number 3 : Hugh Morrison explored this sump 1983 to 1784 meters. Chris Brown added 25 meters and was stopped by a
restriction in 1995 at the point 1809 meters. Karl Hall reached same point 2003 and was stopped by the same restriction.
Craig Challen extended sump 3 on 11.8.2008 for 120 meters to the point 1929 meters.Depth at point of return -17 meters. The tunnel
continues.
(G) N6 to riviere Bidon.
(H) N6 to affluent du reseau.
(I ) Part of Pitch downstream (aval)
(K) Sump number 2 . Depth at point of return -39m / Tiefe am Umkehrpunkt -39m .
(L) Worldrecord for a Traversedive between 2 entrances from Turnersink to Wakullasprings (15./16.12.2007 ) by Jarrod.Jablonski and
Casey Mc Kinlay. Divetime : 20 hours 14 mins.(divetime including deco) rectified distance.
(M) Sump number 2
(N) This sump is dived to approx.2012meters/6601ft. by Kim Martin. The 1753m/5751ft. dive by D.Sawatzky is topographied.
(O) Worldrecord for a single penetration and returndive / EOL Wakulla Q (rectified): E-mail communication [email protected] 12.8.2008.
Divetime : 26 hours 16 mins. (divetime including deco)
(P) Traversedive.
(Q) Tiefe am Umkehrpunkt -67 Meter. Depth at point of return -67 meters. EOL by Roland Kring and Robin Sporrer in a new discovered
part.
(R) Tiefe am Umkehrpunkt -62 Meter. Depth at point of return -62 meters. Divetime 17 hours 30 Minutes (divetime including deco)
(S) Part of Beacon woods cave system , Florida,USA
(T) The total length of Sump 2 is 2656 meters.The first airchamber is 15m before submerging. The following air chambers are roof sniffs.
The final airchamber before Toadhall is 53 meters long.
Sump length ignoring roof sniffs is 2561 meters.
(U) Part of Old Bellamy cave system.
(V) Approximately maximum upstream penetration by James Toland and Doug Chappell is 6500 Feet/ 1981 meters. Confirmed and surveyed
maximum penetration by Sheck Exley is 5335 Feet / 1626 meters. The approx. 6500 ft.-penetration has not yet been surveyed.
(W) Upstream
(X) Sump 3
(Y) From Cenote Caracol to first airbell.
(Z) Rectified distance ( E-mail communication [email protected], 12.8.2008 ) Divetime : 26 hours 05 mins. (divetime including deco)
(AA) From the end of an airbell (point 163m) to maximum penetration = 3268 m . sumplength with airbell 3431 m.
(BB) From the most upstream access point ( Friedmans sink ) to maximum penetration .
(CC) Connected by Jill Heinerth and Jerry Murphy 1.3.2009. From Mc Cormicksink to EOL Rosesink and back to McCormicksink.
Sac Actun (including Nohoch Na Chich) cavesystem has currently no underwater-cavepassages without airbells or surfaces which are longer than
1’500 meters / 4921 feet.

Scuba Pete
09-15-2010, 21:21
Yea Pete... umm.. you said not sure on this... then explained why it is indeed apples and oranges... :smiley2:

Yea i guess you are right.:smiley20: either way a helleva dive.

navyhmc
09-15-2010, 22:02
They somehow brought a compact compressor and energy source with them and filled tanks? Am I missing something here or is this just typical journalistic license that is often taken with dive stories in the popular press?

I have a feeling that they had a bottle shuffle from the surface to their camp out with the used in with the new...if so, that's a lot of support folks to be sure. One thing's for sure, you never do this alone. Yet the back ground players are never really recognised, just the key players.

mstueven
09-15-2010, 22:14
I am not sure on this. While it is true that they stopped in an air chamber, the water is 52* depth 233'. It took them 5.5 hours to get to the air chamber where they have to worry about CO2 and lack of o2. Then they dove ahead of the air chamber laying an additional ~10,000' give or take. That may be more of a achievement than the nice warm 72* Florida water where they have many many people bringing you food, water, additional tanks, additional scooters, etc. My guess is that once they were on the far side of the air pocket, they were pretty much on their own. 52* water in a cave with less visibility than Florida. I would say it is right up there with Wakulla if not more difficult to achieve. only my opinion though. I do not want to take anything away from Wakulla though. They work extremely hard to accomplish what they have.

I'm sorry if it sounded like I wasn't giving them their kudos...my bad. I just meant that these are two very different dives, both of which deserve a healthy dose of credit. A 7 mile underwater traverse at 300' while scootering in big, Florida power-cave, is obviously different than a 50 hour trek through dark, cold water and sumps. Both are amazing! Just the logistics involved are incredible.

Scuba Pete
09-16-2010, 10:52
I'm sorry if it sounded like I wasn't giving them their kudos...my bad. I just meant that these are two very different dives, both of which deserve a healthy dose of credit. A 7 mile underwater traverse at 300' while scootering in big, Florida power-cave, is obviously different than a 50 hour trek through dark, cold water and sumps. Both are amazing! Just the logistics involved are incredible.

I agree. I would like to say that I would not be interested in doing that in the future, or at least help with one. But I think I would be lying.

Lenaxia
09-16-2010, 14:12
I have a feeling that they had a bottle shuffle from the surface to their camp out with the used in with the new...if so, that's a lot of support folks to be sure. One thing's for sure, you never do this alone. Yet the back ground players are never really recognised, just the key players.

sadly yes, it just isnt practical to give full recognition to the people behind the scenes. Can you recognize everyone equally? Should the people who made the penetration get equal recognition to the people supporting them?

navyhmc
09-16-2010, 19:59
Should the support people get equal recognition? No. Good recognition? Absolutely. At least with NASA, we recognised the little folks of Mission Control.

jj1987
09-18-2010, 21:24
I'm sorry if it sounded like I wasn't giving them their kudos...my bad. I just meant that these are two very different dives, both of which deserve a healthy dose of credit. A 7 mile underwater traverse at 300' while scootering in big, Florida power-cave, is obviously different than a 50 hour trek through dark, cold water and sumps. Both are amazing! Just the logistics involved are incredible.
Umm, turner sink isn't real big...

mstueven
09-20-2010, 13:06
Umm, turner sink isn't real big...

Just generalizing the differences jj1987