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creggur
09-17-2007, 07:12
Has anyone here had this done, and are you happy with it?

My wife is getting it done at the end of the month, and I am seriously considering myself.....After 20 years of contact lenses the thought of not having to deal with that is very attractive....

loudgonzo
09-17-2007, 07:52
I'm doing it early next year, that way I use an FSA account and not pay taxes. One of my aunt's had it done several years ago and she has had no problems at all. And this was with the "old" method, where they use a blade to cut a layer of cornea back...I can't think of the name they give it now, but they use a laser to cut the cornea now, and this is supposed to be easier, safer, and more effective. So I imagine it is only better now, except for the price of course:smiley19:.

Anyway, for the amount of procedures that have been done, you very rarely hear about a bad experience, but there are risks of course, just very very rare. Best of luck to you and your wife! Don't forget to post back here and let us know, like I said, I'm also looking forward to get mine done and would appreciate your feedback.

Scuba-Bill
09-17-2007, 08:38
My wife had it done two years ago after 28 years of wearing glasses. Her eyesight is now better than 20/20 in both eyes now and she has not had any issues. The surgery was quick and the aftercare was easily managed.

Good luck!

sudnit5
09-17-2007, 09:08
One of my friends had it done and he said the change was amazing.

reservecops
09-17-2007, 09:45
After nearly 20 years of glasses and (mostly) contact lenses, I had LASIK performed back in March (it's been about 6 months).

I opted for the (more expensive) Intralase for the first step (the cornea cut with the laser that loudgonzo was referring to above). Not only is the Intralase much more accurate than conventional microkeratome (an actual mechanical blade), it also reduces the risk of infections and your healing is both shorter and more accurate.

Long story short, I dove in the Caribbean about 3-4 months after the LASIK was performed (although my doctor told me that I could be swimming after just a month).

All I can say is: this is, by far, some of the best money I have ever spent in my life. No more glasses fogging up or falling off. No more contact lenses drying out, getting rubbed out, or getting all jammed up somewhere in the corner of the socket. And the quality of my eyesight is better than it was with contacts. I even had a very mild astigmatism in one eye that was corrected by the surgery.

I dive, golf, and participate in various other activities that have truly been changed by LASIK.

DUnder
09-17-2007, 13:59
I have been thinking about having it done, so is nice to hear about how well it is working for other people.

chinacat46
09-17-2007, 14:59
I had it done in mid July and am 110% happy with it. I've been in a pool since then diving but my first test in the ocean will be in October in Australia. Can't believe the difference as reservecops said I see better then I did with my contacts. I to had an astigmatism as well.

creggur
09-17-2007, 15:14
I have a slight astigmatism as well, and am really leaning toward doing this..

My wifes doctor told her she could be cleared to dive after her 3 week checkup if all goes well....Seemed a little quick to me, but we'll see...

unclepooty
09-17-2007, 15:27
Father in law had the surgery performed last year or so to correct extreme nearsightedness. Only issue he had was one morning soon after in the bathroom. Looked down and realized he wasn't as....."blessed" as he had previously thought. No worries though, he just started making wife wear old glasses to bed.:smiley2:

jo8243
09-17-2007, 16:30
I've been thinking about this also. I have 20/40 uncorrected and 20/15 corrected vision. I thought about doing it but am concerned it could put me in reading glasses earlier when I'm older. Anyone know if there's any truth to that?

ReefHound
09-17-2007, 16:36
If I recall correctly (from my reading when I had LASIK done 6 years ago, and echo the comments about how great it was), the need for reading glasses is caused by a hardening or loss of flexibility in the eye as a result of aging. It is completely unrelated to nearsightedness which is caused by the shaping of the cornea, and LASIK which will neither prevent it nor encourage it.

jo8243
09-17-2007, 16:57
If I recall correctly (from my reading when I had LASIK done 6 years ago, and echo the comments about how great it was), the need for reading glasses is caused by a hardening or loss of flexibility in the eye as a result of aging. It is completely unrelated to nearsightedness which is caused by the shaping of the cornea, and LASIK which will neither prevent it nor encourage it.

Sweet. How about dry eyes? Anyone have trouble with that after the surgery?

ReefHound
09-17-2007, 17:23
You'll get anti-bacterial drops to use for a week and saline drops to use for a month or so, with advice that it never hurts to use them regularly. I had more "dry eyes" problems with contacts.

Subaqua
09-17-2007, 17:28
Anyone had problem with vision at night after having the surgery? I heard it happens to a few persons, just wondering if it is common? Thinking of doing it myself, but still not sure yet.

jo8243
09-17-2007, 18:43
You'll get anti-bacterial drops to use for a week and saline drops to use for a month or so, with advice that it never hurts to use them regularly. I had more "dry eyes" problems with contacts.

I can't wear contacts at all. So lasik would be nice. I'm just nervous that I might not like the results (night vision problems or dry/irritated eyes). I've heard of people having problems like that for life.....

Bill22
09-18-2007, 11:05
I've been thinking about this also. I have 20/40 uncorrected and 20/15 corrected vision. I thought about doing it but am concerned it could put me in reading glasses earlier when I'm older. Anyone know if there's any truth to that?

You might have trouble getting the surgery done. Your vision is really not considered bad enough to need surgery. There is always some risk in surgery. The potential benefits in your case may not out weigh the risk.

My vision was 20/200 before I had PRK. I'm 20/10 now. I was in bi-focals before the surgery and I wear reading glasses now, although I'm not dependent on them unless it's really SMALL print ;-).

No matter how good your vision is, you're likely to end up needing reading glasses as you get older.

Bill22
09-18-2007, 11:11
Anyone had problem with vision at night after having the surgery? I heard it happens to a few persons, just wondering if it is common? Thinking of doing it myself, but still not sure yet.

I'm a little "fuzzier" at night. I was warned ahead of time this could be a problem and don't regret the surgery. I still see "good enough" :-)

In my case when they were doing the pre-op exam I recieved an explanation for why I always seemed to be able to "see in the dark". Turns out my pupils dilated much larger than normal. The problem was that the laser only corrected to a certain diameter. My pupils dilated more than that, so "fuzzy" around the edges at night. I was told people with blue eyes were more likely to have this problem.

I have NO regrets about having the surgery 4 years later. I went from 20/200 before the surgery to 20/10 after! :-)

REO
09-18-2007, 22:52
I had LASIK almost 6 years ago. My vision was 20/300 before the LASIK, now it is 20/15. I wish I would have been able to get it done a lot sooner. It's really nice not having to wear glasses, not having glasses fog up when I come inside from cold weather, not having water spots on my glasses when it rains a little bit outside. It's nice being able to read the time on the alarm clock without having to get up and go to the clock to read the time.

I had LASIK from the cornea specialist who did my eye doctor's LASIK. My LASIK turned out great, no problems with dry eyes. Bright point of light at night now have a slight star burst effect, but it is barely noticeable. My daytime vision is awesome. I need reading glasses up close, but I'm almost 53.

If you are considering LASIK, have your eye doctor recommend someone. Don't just find the cheapest place to have it done.

A coworker had LASIK from one of the budget places and they tore her cornea! She ended up having to have her cornea repaired by my LASIK provider.

Ron

paintsnow
09-18-2007, 23:36
im thinking of getting lasik done myself once im old enough, i really dont want to deal with contacts in my choice profession, if i get to it, which is a navy diver

lucidblue
09-19-2007, 22:17
I've been wanting to get it done, but the thought of being awake and seeing what they are doing, really freaks me out.

scubasavvy
09-19-2007, 22:56
I've known 2 people who have had Lasik done. One has wicked dry eyes now and the other has no problems whatsoever. But, I've heard that dry eyes apparently runs in your genes, so it all depends on you.

Wndrer
09-19-2007, 23:05
I work for an Ophthalmologist and have assisted in over 1000 surgeries. I have also had PRK because at the time the Air Force wasn't doing LASIK.

Like has been mentioned earlier...this can be one of the greatest things in your life however realize that with any surgery there are risks. Do your homework and remember, you get what you pay for.

Bill22
09-20-2007, 02:33
im thinking of getting lasik done myself once im old enough, i really dont want to deal with contacts in my choice profession, if i get to it, which is a navy diver

DON'T get LASIK then. That they WILL NOT accept it. It can keep you OUT of the military! LASIK is not considered to be stable enough in an operational environment. They WILL NOT allow you to become a Navy Diver.

The only eye surgery they're accepting is PRK and they prefer that you do it while you're on active duty. If you're in a priority group (Pilot's, EOD, SpecWar, Divers, Security Forces) it can be done pretty quickly. I think from the time I requested it until I had the surgery was only a couple of months. Otherwise there is a waiting list and it might take a year or more.

Here's a link that explains it: http://www.lasersurgeryforeyes.com/lasik_military.htm

Bill22
09-20-2007, 02:51
I've been wanting to get it done, but the thought of being awake and seeing what they are doing, really freaks me out.

I can't speak for LASIK, but the PRK was very quick. They apply an anesthetic to your eyes. You shouldn't feel anything. I did feel a little when they first started. They stopped, applied more anesthetic. After that it was no problem. I did after, but that is one of the differences between PRK and LASIK. I was in and out in less than five minutes. The laser is very quick and can adjust for movement of your eye.

You're going to have more pain during the recovery process and a longer healing time from PRK. The advantage is that they have determined that you're eye is structurally stronger after PRK than it is after LASIK. LASIK has a much shorter healing time and you can see immediately. There is a concern (and it would be a minor one for the vast majority of people) of the flap coming off later. I'm not trying to scare anyone, just repeating what was explained to me by the doctor as the reason why the Navy does PRK instead of LASIK.

Anyone who is contemplating surgery should explore all the risks and then make a determination if it is right for them. Corrective vision surgery has a VERY high sucess rate, but it IS NOT 100%. I have NO REGRETS about having the surgery done. As has already been mentioned the simple things like being able to read a digital clock at night in my room with out having to put on my glasses, not being dependent on glasses to do everyday normal activities.... it's really difficult to put a value on for me. I was told that I personally had exceptional results. I went from 20/200 to being able to read the bottom line on the eye chart! I couldn't have asked for anything better :-)

Cheddarchick
09-20-2007, 06:04
I had it done in Jan...LOVE IT...20/10 with very little night haze and no after problems. I had monovision done so I don't need reading glasses. Monovision, one eye for distance, one eye for reading. Not every one can adjust to monovision, but I had contacts like that for years. I have never been able to see clearly, I was in glasses in 4th grade....It is a wonderful thing....

scubafreak
09-20-2007, 07:25
I am seriously thinking of having it done. I have been wearing glasses since I was 2 and I hate them more and more as time goes by.

ianr33
09-20-2007, 07:36
I've been thinking about this also. I have 20/40 uncorrected and 20/15 corrected vision. I thought about doing it but am concerned it could put me in reading glasses earlier when I'm older. Anyone know if there's any truth to that?

That is my issue with having Lasik. I am at an age when my close vision is starting to deteriorate. Wearing glasses I have an easy solution-I just take them off to read small print. Cant do that with lasik !
My wife had it done a few years ago,really is miraculous what it can do.

creggur
09-20-2007, 08:20
I figure in a few years I'm going to need bifocals, so if I get the Lasik, at least then it will only be reading glasses...

Bill22
09-20-2007, 08:37
I've been thinking about this also. I have 20/40 uncorrected and 20/15 corrected vision. I thought about doing it but am concerned it could put me in reading glasses earlier when I'm older. Anyone know if there's any truth to that?

That is my issue with having Lasik. I am at an age when my close vision is starting to deteriorate. Wearing glasses I have an easy solution-I just take them off to read small print. Cant do that with lasik !
My wife had it done a few years ago,really is miraculous what it can do.

I was at the same point when I had PRK at age 44. I had just gone to bi-focals the year before, but I usually just took my glasses off to read.
Now I wear glasses to read small print, but DON'T need them for anything else. For me the trade-off was worth it.

mdwestgrl
09-20-2007, 09:04
My husband and I have talked about him having the surgery on several occassions (I don't need glasses or contacts) but were worried that it may affect his ability to scuba dive (ie. the pressure differences etc) but I am guessing we are wrong based on all of the posts! I guess we can look into it a little more seriously now! Anyone have any problems with scuba diving since having it done???

paintsnow
09-20-2007, 09:13
hey, thanx a bunch bill22

i still got a lot of time, and was going to ask before i did it just to be sure i could still get it, but now i can start doing more research, cause i never heard of PPK

thanx again
-paint

Rick155
09-20-2007, 11:35
Are reading glasses really preferable?

Nearsighted since childhood, I'm at that age where I need glasses for distance and for reading. I love the idea of not wearing glasses all day long. I'm less in love with the idea of needing reading glasses wherever I go. I put my glasses on in the morning and there they stay until I go to bed at night. Carrying glasses with me everywhere...on, off, on off, depending on what I'm looking at...seems like a pain. As a lawyer I do a lot of reading, and computer use. Will I really be happier using reading glasses? I honestly don't know and would welcome hearing from others in a similar boat.

Rick

Bill22
09-20-2007, 14:11
Are reading glasses really preferable?

Nearsighted since childhood, I'm at that age where I need glasses for distance and for reading. I love the idea of not wearing glasses all day long. I'm less in love with the idea of needing reading glasses wherever I go. I put my glasses on in the morning and there they stay until I go to bed at night. Carrying glasses with me everywhere...on, off, on off, depending on what I'm looking at...seems like a pain. As a lawyer I do a lot of reading, and computer use. Will I really be happier using reading glasses? I honestly don't know and would welcome hearing from others in a similar boat.

Rick

Well only you can decide that. It is a little bit of a pain sometimes. I bought several pairs of reading glasses and have them spread around. I keep one pair in my room, so I can read in bed, one pair next to my computer, one downstairs, and one in my duty bag. I also have another pair that I try and remember to put in my pocket :-) I can read it if the print isn't to small, so I'm not totally dependent on them. For me it was worth it, but my job doesn't involve much reading on a daily basis. Just an occasional report I have to write.

johnbaggs
09-21-2007, 03:24
I had PRK surgery about 4 years ago, no issues and honestly it's the best thing I've ever done. I hated wearing glasses and actually became contact lens intolerant in 2001. I was 20/100 and now I'm 20/20. PRK is definitely better for diving and flying.

LarryB
09-27-2007, 20:06
As it happens I was one of the people involved in the first FDA tests involving heavy myopia [nearsightedness] and astigmatism [distortion of the corneal lens]. My vision was arounf 450/20 in my good eye before hand and 20/15 afterwards.

There is some dryness for about 6 months to a year for most people, and night vision does tend to get a slight haze during that time as well. Everyone heals a little different but if you follow the doctors instructions the success rate is quite impressive. I am going on over 15 years at this point and have been nothing but pleased.

I had it done several years befor my first dive, and had no problems in salt or fresh water from it.

Wndrer
09-27-2007, 22:32
PRK is Photorefractive Keratectomy. It was the precursor to LASIK but after RK. It's the surgery of choice for most military sites as there is no pesky flap that can come undone years down the road. The downside is that there is a longer heal time but the end result is the same. As stated above....there are complaints about halos around lights as well as dryness associated with the surgery but that is true of PRK as well as LASIK. I had PRK in 2002 and can honestly say it is the second best thing to happen to me. Of course the first was marrying my wife of 6 years....

Doghouse
09-28-2007, 10:54
Here is a message from the blind bat (or ex blind bat)

I was 20/500+ (note this means that you cannot focus on the # of fingers at 4 feet) now I am 20/15. This means that I went from not being able to see the alarm clock on the bedside table to reading the fine print on lables.

Problems: The first 6 months provided a little unusual night driving as I did not know what to think of how I was now seeing things. Navigation marker bouys that before I could not find, I was now seeing the next 2-4 of them.

I also experianced mild halo effects on white street signs or other bright reflected light. Now 3 years later I don't even notice it.

I have 2 edge conditions of nearly dry eyes, and wide dialating pupils. I used to see a shadow (a hair in width) in the corner of my eye at night when light was comming in from the side. I no longer notice it.

I have lost some of my close up vision, as I can no longer read printed circuit boards without good light. So yes I will have to get reading glasses at some time, but heck I will take these years of glassless vision!

reservecops
09-28-2007, 11:19
If I recall correctly (from my reading when I had LASIK done 6 years ago, and echo the comments about how great it was), the need for reading glasses is caused by a hardening or loss of flexibility in the eye as a result of aging. It is completely unrelated to nearsightedness which is caused by the shaping of the cornea, and LASIK which will neither prevent it nor encourage it.This is absolutely correct. This is called presbyopia.

As you age, the natural (crystalline) lens of your eye loses its flexibility. The eye can no longer (change) shape to quickly focus on things that are close up (e.g., reading).

LASIK can do nothing to prevent presbyopia. Nothing can. LASIK only reshapes the cornea.

creggur
09-28-2007, 11:31
Wife had her Lasik yesterday, and is extremely happy so far (it's only been 24 hours)... She's absolutely amazed at the correction, and excited for the first time in 20 years to not have glasses or contacts on.....

So far so good!!!

Cheddarchick
09-28-2007, 19:09
Yippe for her!!! Glad to hear it went well...

DiverBry
09-28-2007, 19:15
If I recall correctly (from my reading when I had LASIK done 6 years ago, and echo the comments about how great it was), the need for reading glasses is caused by a hardening or loss of flexibility in the eye as a result of aging. It is completely unrelated to nearsightedness which is caused by the shaping of the cornea, and LASIK which will neither prevent it nor encourage it.

Sweet. How about dry eyes? Anyone have trouble with that after the surgery?

I had the surgery done 3 years ago to correct astigmatism and slight nearsightedness. Best money I ever deducted on my taxes.

As for the dry eyes, there are optional "punctal plugs" which the doctor will offer. Spend the few extra bucks on these... it will make all the difference.

More info: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=punctal+plugs&btnG=Search

Basically, they are small, slowly-dissolving plugs they put into the corners of your eyes so the tears can't drain into the sinuses as easily. Painless procedure, and my eyes actually felt better than they have in years while they were there.

Prior to the surgery, due to the astigmatism, I didn't have very good depth perception... now I can see in 3D! Wow! ViewMasters and Binoculers work wayy better now, not to mention I can pick any dive mask I want!

Chocoholic
09-29-2007, 18:57
Has anyone here had this done, and are you happy with it?

My wife is getting it done at the end of the month, and I am seriously considering myself.....After 20 years of contact lenses the thought of not having to deal with that is very attractive....


I had Lasik done nine years ago, from 20/-750 with an astigmatism to 20/15. I did have to have one adjustment but it was because I was so highly nearsighted to start with. The procedure was fast and I could see right away. I do have some dry eye problems but not a lot. I also have to wear reading glasses now and have some haziness with my night vision. I have heard of people having problems with vision stability after surgery, as well as having to wear reading glasses sooner than without surgery.
I loved the surgery and would do it again in a heart beat. Being able to water ski without worrying about running into a dock or downhill ski without finding goggles to fit over my glasses or swim in the pool and not swim up to a stranger thinking it was my hubby.:smiley5:
Good luck, it will change your life.

Chocoholic
09-29-2007, 18:59
One more thing.... my friend was hoping to have the surgery done and went to her eye doc. After years of wearing contact lenses her corneas were too thin to do the surgery.

Wndrer
09-29-2007, 19:37
Contact lens wear does not make your corneas thinner. More likely she has a very high prescription. So LASIK may be out but have her ask about PRK. You dont go as deep with PRK.

Steve Scuba
09-30-2007, 14:32
I had Lasik done about a year ago. I was 20/400+ is both eyes before (corrected to 20/20 with glasses), and ended up with 20/20 in one eye, and 20/40 in the other. So, my vision is not as sharp as it was with glasses, but I am so happy not to have to wear them! I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

I would recommend getting the most reputable doctor, with the newer eximer laser. I have none of that light sensitivity or nighttime "halo" effect.

reservecops
10-01-2007, 13:13
(Not that you can ensure they're not lying to you, but ...) Ask the office how many patients they TURN AWAY. If they tell you they're doing EVERYBODY, find another doctor. They're just looking for the ca$h. A reputable eye surgeon (and his/her staff) will make sure you are a candidate BEFORE looking at your wallet. Ask around - friends, relatives, etc., for a good surgeon in YOUR area. Don't just go where the TV commercials tell you to go.

DUnder
10-01-2007, 14:47
Wow sounds like every one is happy with it and would do it again. When I have it done I will make sure and do my homework on the Doctors before I have it done.

prodjbm
10-03-2007, 17:55
Yeah, I thinking of having it done myself. I'm glad to hear the suscess rate but I should have never wateched a TV show that showed the procedure, scared the crap out of me lol....

Aquatrax
10-13-2007, 05:47
Dr Boothe is the man! I had it done six years ago, Far sighted with an asitmatism (spelling?) Went from barley being a candidate (my vision was poor) to 20/15. Unfortunatley, I kept aging and now need readers

mlsm72
10-23-2007, 10:06
I had it a year and a half ago, and I still sometimes am in awe that I dont have to wear corrective lenses. It is great, and I would recommend it to anybody.

scubamike
10-23-2007, 18:53
I AM THE BIGGEST ADVOCATE FOR LASIK.

Do it! it will change your life. Getting lasik change my life completely. Haven't wore glasses for over 4 years. No dry eyes and no more contacts.

Getting Lasik was is one of the best decisions I made in my life.

Make sure you do a LOT of research. Find the best doctor.

It took me 6 months to do my research and I ended up flying to Canada to do it. I did the Wavefront Lasik which is (was) a more advanced type of Lasik Surgery.

Do it.

K8brandt
10-23-2007, 20:58
Bruce and I had it done in 1999, it was one of the best things we could have done for ourselves. My contact lens diopter was -10 in the right eye and -9 in the left. However, LASIK WILL NOT prevent the natural aging of your eyes, so eventually you might still need reading glasses, although there is now a procedure for that. I'll never forget getting home, taking a dr recommended nap (like I need a dr's excuse to take a nap) and waking up. Had to move the alarm clock to the far side of the nightstand. It also took me a good two months to stop reaching for my glasses ion the morning. I now need glasses for distance, but I am at the way low end, at least I dont' need reading glasses, yet...

zippybossrock
10-25-2007, 17:55
I had lasik surgery 6 yrs ago. Before the surgery, I couldn't get out of bed without glasses or contacts. I couldn't even read the time on the clock right next to my bed. I needed something to be THIS close in order to read without glasses or contacts. Let me tell you.......it was the BEST money I EVER spent. I live in northwestern PA and went to Niagara Falls Canada to have it done. It was about $2000 cheaper there than it would have been for me locally. They've been doing lasik a LOT longer in Canada than in the US, so they were more experienced. Today, I'm still 20/20. The dr who did my surgery told me that I'd probably need reading glasses sooner than I would normally (natural aging of your eyes) because I had such a large correction made. But who cares? Glasses aren't a necessity anymore, they're an accessory :)

rach
11-20-2007, 13:26
oh my gosh, after reading all this i now have something to save up for (besides diving, of course)...i am SO sick of contacts!!

maybe in the next few years i can enjoy the same benefits as all lasik advocates--thanks for sharing!

Kabniel
11-20-2007, 13:49
I've had to wear glasses or contact lenses for the best part of 25 years and although it is sometimes a chore with solutions, waking in the middle of the night and fumbling for glasses, or being the rain I still don't think you could persuade me to have any form of surgery on my eyes.

Hit Google and search for eye surgery success rates, it makes sobering reading when you find some of the companies that claim less than one percent failure rates are not actually including patients who have had repeat surgeries because of complications, some surgeons claim the failure rate is actually as high as TEN percent.

In my opinion that's too high for me to even contemplate the risk, regardless of any assurances of free after-care, free repeat surgery or any amount of tales of people who "never looked back".

Kabniel
11-20-2007, 14:03
Just an addition to my last post, no disrespect was intended to anyone who has undergone or contemplating undergoing corrective eye surgery! If it all went well for you then good luck with your lense-free life :smiley20: this is merely my opinion

loudgonzo
12-03-2007, 09:59
Searched for this old thread:smiley36:....Just turned in my Benefits Change Package to HR, which included FSA deductions for Lasik next year. Unfortunately, I did not see the dr before choosing the $ amount to get a cost, so I'm hoping $3500 goes a long way, if not...then :smiley19:

GDiver
12-07-2007, 10:25
I had LASIK done in 2000 via the mechanical blade. I had a pretty good experience except that my left eye didn't numb enough to prevent me from feeling the blade. I did alot of research on night vision issues after these surgeries because I was in the Army and wanted to get into federal law enforcement. Find a doctor that will spend time with you answering questions. It really makes a difference in your comfort level with the procedure. Started: 20/70 and 20/200. Ended: 20/15 and 20/20. I'm still 20/20 after more than 7 years.

loudgonzo
12-10-2007, 09:44
I had LASIK done in 2000 via the mechanical blade. I had a pretty good experience except that my left eye didn't numb enough to prevent me from feeling the blade. I did alot of research on night vision issues after these surgeries because I was in the Army and wanted to get into federal law enforcement. Find a doctor that will spend time with you answering questions. It really makes a difference in your comfort level with the procedure. Started: 20/70 and 20/200. Ended: 20/15 and 20/20. I'm still 20/20 after more than 7 years.

I felt a cold chill down my spine reading the second sentence. Ouch.

adv_diver1
12-10-2007, 09:55
My mom had it and she loves it. The only thing I notice is a little glitter in her eye in the sun. She says the money is cost to do the procedure was worth it considering she has lost so many pairs of glasses.

She also said the headaches from the periphal vision being blurred are goine as well.

loudgonzo
12-10-2007, 10:02
My Lasik is scheduled for Jan 17th. Can't wait!:smilie40:Going with the all lasik (no blade) procedure. For an extra $800 they offered custom wavefront.....No thanks!

GDiver
12-12-2007, 20:47
Congrats on going forward with it. You'll really love having done it in the long run!

BoomerNJ
12-17-2007, 11:43
I'm having PRK this Thursday... I am psyched, but apprehensive... I will keep everyone posted on a day to day basis, but I have read that I won't be able to really work at the computer for two or three days after, so I'll post as soon as I can. I have read so much about it that I think I made it worse for me. The vast majority have 20/20 vision results or better with little to no halos or star bursts & that lessens with time, but reading about some of the bad ones online, I'm a little more nervous than when I started out...

GDiver
12-18-2007, 20:55
I'm sure it will be fine. I didn't have a great experience at the doctor's but I don't respond like a normal person to drugs. Besides, I did mine 7 years ago. They have gotten significantly better since then. Relax and the procedure will be fine. You'll be extremely that you went through with it. Good luck!!

Streamline
12-19-2007, 08:49
I had LASIK done over 10 years ago and I still have 20/20 vision. It was definitely money well spent. The worst part was before the surgery ... its nerve racking anticipating the eye surgery, plus you have just read and signed a bunch of forms telling you that something may go wrong.

It took me about a year to get rid of the night vision haze ... and it was really only bad on a wet rainy night when opposing headlights reflected off the drops.

But, as was mentioned earlier ... make sure it is not going to effect any career choices you are going to make. If it does, make sure you check with them periodically, because as the procedures become more common place, they are more likely to accept them.

loudgonzo
12-19-2007, 10:10
It took me about a year to get rid of the night vision haze ... and it was really only bad on a wet rainy night when opposing headlights reflected off the drops.


At my initial consultation, they informed me of the possibility of "halos" "dry eyes" and other side effects. The custom wave-front procedure is supposed to minimize the post operative dry eyes and halo effects, although I mentioned a few posts ago that I am not going with this custom wave-front option.

The extra $ for the custom wavefront is not justified in my opinion. The end results are the exact same whether custom or not. I for one believe the cost of Lasik is overpriced to begin with, but no way around that; the demand is there.

I will write a full report once I have it done and share it here.

Streamline
12-19-2007, 10:59
It took me about a year to get rid of the night vision haze ... and it was really only bad on a wet rainy night when opposing headlights reflected off the drops.


At my initial consultation, they informed me of the possibility of "halos" "dry eyes" and other side effects. The custom wave-front procedure is supposed to minimize the post operative dry eyes and halo effects, although I mentioned a few posts ago that I am not going with this custom wave-front option.

The extra $ for the custom wavefront is not justified in my opinion. The end results are the exact same whether custom or not. I for one believe the cost of Lasik is overpriced to begin with, but no way around that; the demand is there.

I will write a full report once I have it done and share it here.


They didn't have the wavefront option when I had mine done. Its a surgical procedure ... once in a lifetime. It is kind of disturbing that they are treating the surgery like your buying a new car ... with different options that you can add-on. Ethically speaking, any surgical advances should just be implemented ... for the comfort of the patient.

My only thought is, that if you currently suffer from really dry eyes :smiley19: or if you do a lot of night driving :smiley29:... it might really be worth the extra $ as the symptoms can last for years !!! (it really is criminal that they ask for more $$)

Good luck with it, I'm sure you'll be happy with the results either way. Looking forward to your report!!

loudgonzo
12-19-2007, 11:17
They didn't have the wavefront option when I had mine done. Its a surgical procedure ... once in a lifetime. It is kind of disturbing that they are treating the surgery like your buying a new car ... with different options that you can add-on. Ethically speaking, any surgical advances should just be implemented ... for the comfort of the patient.

My only thought is, that if you currently suffer from really dry eyes :smiley19: or if you do a lot of night driving :smiley29:... it might really be worth the extra $ as the symptoms can last for years !!! (it really is criminal that they ask for more $$)

Good luck with it, I'm sure you'll be happy with the results either way. Looking forward to your report!!

They gotta make an extra buck, just not off of me:smiley2:
EMWV (everybody's miles WILL vary)

GDiver
12-19-2007, 14:09
When I had mine done, it was just the standard edition. There were no "extras" or upgrading to the deluxe edition. I'll be looking forward to your report.

BoomerNJ
12-20-2007, 14:58
Hey all, I got home from the doctor's office at about 1:00 today with some pretty good burning going on, but I can see fairly well... Have trouble seeing the text on the forum (on about a 22" screen), but more than well enough to function around the house... I had the PRK version done. It's the one before LASIK became the standard. The procedure is uncomfortable, as far as having your eyes pried open, but other than that it's painless & very quick... My vision is blurry, but as I said, I can see more than well enough to function... It's almost time for my first set of eye drops & some dinner... I'll post again tomorrow & keep you up to date after my first follow up appointment...

Boomer

p.s. The burning stopped after about an hour & I'm really quite comfortable now... Just blurry vision... lol...

Streamline
12-21-2007, 13:05
Hey all, I got home from the doctor's office at about 1:00 today with some pretty good burning going on, but I can see fairly well... Have trouble seeing the text on the forum (on about a 22" screen), but more than well enough to function around the house... I had the PRK version done. It's the one before LASIK became the standard. The procedure is uncomfortable, as far as having your eyes pried open, but other than that it's painless & very quick... My vision is blurry, but as I said, I can see more than well enough to function... It's almost time for my first set of eye drops & some dinner... I'll post again tomorrow & keep you up to date after my first follow up appointment...

Boomer

p.s. The burning stopped after about an hour & I'm really quite comfortable now... Just blurry vision... lol...

Glad to hear all went well ...

BoomerNJ
12-21-2007, 18:16
Thanks Streamline! All is still well, I am still blurry though... At my follow up appointment, I tested well enough to be OK's to drive. I will have a few more days of blurry vision & a little light sensitivity, per my doctor. It takes longer to heal from PRK than from LASIK, which I was informed about by my doc. If I do too much or watch too much TV, i start to get more light sensitive to the point of having to wear the dark glasses the doc gave me, so then I just take a nap for an hour or so & I'm better... They say it could be up to two weeks before I know the full extent of the results, but the doctor says I should be 20/20 or slightly better...

Well, I'm of to relax a bit, too much computer gets uncomfortable...

Boomer

BoomerNJ
12-24-2007, 06:10
Well, I was a bit too optimistic on the 21st when I wrote my last post... The next day was a nightmare, pain, itching, burning all day & into the night. The Doctor said it would happen & that the 2nd day after was always the worst. I was using the pain drops every 4 hours, even woke up in the middle of the night to put more in... But, on the bright side, I woke up yesterday morning to a whole new world. No more pain, just mildly blurry vision that would deteriorate until I took a nap or at least rested my eyes for an hour or so...

Today it's back to work, I have a follow up appointment today to get the "bandage" contacts out, which should get rid of some of the last discomfort...

Overall, I would still say it's going to be worth every minute of it to never have to wear glasses or contacts again. I will be able to clear my mask with my eyes open this spring & if I lose it somehow, I will not have to worry about losing a contact. In shallow water I would even be able to look around for it before ending a dive...

Take care all & happy holidays!

Boomer

Streamline
12-24-2007, 07:39
Wow .... the PRK sounds like far more discomfort than the LASIK. Did you choose to have the PRK, or was it due to the type of correction they had to make?

BoomerNJ
12-24-2007, 11:24
Yeah, it is more discomfort & a longer healing process. It was a little of both my choice & necessity... My corneas are on the border of being too thin to do LASIK so the doc recommended PRK. Also with being a volunteer firefighter, working with the police dept & being an active person in general, PRK seemed a better fit. It is more stable in the long term as there is no flap cut into the eyes. But it can take from days, to a month or so for it to heal completely... The flap used in LASIK can be dislodged for as long as 1 to 2 years after the procedure if struck or traumatized in any way... I didn't want to take that chance...

scubasavvy
12-24-2007, 22:36
I've been doing some research lately on LASIK. What does it cost now a days? I'm thinking of getting it done this summer.

BoomerNJ
12-25-2007, 06:20
My doc charges about $2400 per eye for LASIK...

GDiver
12-26-2007, 17:23
BoomerNJ,

Glad to hear that things are going alright for you. The best part was not having to worry about taking the contacts out after a night on the town. I'm sure you've had one of those "rough" mornings with them stuck to your eyes!

BoomerNJ
12-26-2007, 19:00
BoomerNJ,

Glad to hear that things are going alright for you. The best part was not having to worry about taking the contacts out after a night on the town. I'm sure you've had one of those "rough" mornings with them stuck to your eyes!

LOL! I don't know what your talking about... :smiley2::smilie39:

setesh
12-30-2007, 20:34
Boomer, it's not so much fun at first, but I think you'll be happy with it in the long run. Had mine done 5 years ago. Went from 20/2000 to 20/15. Had to do it in 2 surgeries because my eyes were so bad (yes, 20/2000). I had LASIK, so I didn't have the itching/dry eye problem, or the feeling of sand in your eyes.

Do you see halos around lights at night? Mine were so bad right after my surgery that while driving I couldn't tell what kind of vehicles were coming at me, I just saw a huge white blur. Now I see only a slight ring around lights (kind of like the moon on a foggy night). I highly recommend Refresh Tears if you have a dryness problem.

BoomerNJ
12-31-2007, 07:29
Hey Setesh, thanks for the info... It's been a week and a half & I'm feeling pretty good. The blurryness has diminished quite a bit & my eyes are just a little sore now, like I have had contacts in too long. The Doc gave me a bunch of bottles of refresh tears drops, along with all the antibiotics, steroids & whatever else they had me on... They are great, I use them every couple of hours. I'm all done with all the other drops, which is nice...

I have no halos at all, just still blurry, but I haven't reached my full correction yet either. They expect me to be 20/20 or a little better, like you. I was 20/30 in both eyes last Monday, four days after the surgery, which the nurses in the office said was great for my type of treatment. That's the only drawback with PRK, it takes a while to heal...

setesh
12-31-2007, 15:12
I was 20/30 in both eyes last Monday, four days after the surgery, which the nurses in the office said was great for my type of treatment. That's the only drawback with PRK, it takes a while to heal...

Yeah, that is really good, my brother had PPK and he didn't get to 20/20 for a month. He said he felt like he had sand in his eyes for about a month as well, so you're lucky there too!

azdiver
01-01-2008, 09:21
I hear there is a procedure now for those of us who only need glasses for reading. I've gone from needing a +175 to a +300 in 12 years and would love to find a procedure to get rid of my glasses. I find that I wear them just about all the time now instead of just for reading.

BoomerNJ
01-03-2008, 14:18
Definitely check with an eye doctor you are familiar with & trust about it, I read about a procedure that does fix that while in my eye doctors office...

azdiver
01-03-2008, 15:47
thanks... maybe someone else on the forum will have info for me on this.

skippy11
01-03-2008, 23:48
I hear there is a procedure now for those of us who only need glasses for reading. I've gone from needing a +175 to a +300 in 12 years and would love to find a procedure to get rid of my glasses. I find that I wear them just about all the time now instead of just for reading.

There is a procedure like lasik for those of us who wear reading glasses. I looked into it 2 years ago, but did not go thru w/ it b/c of the price. At that time I only wore my glassess when I worked on the PC; however, I wear them fulltime now. I have thought very seriously about being reevaluated for the proceedure, but I just haven't done it yet.

The same Dr. who did my husbands lasiks was who I had saw about myself. My hubby came out w/ better than 20/20. I just don't know if I could put all the eyedrops in every 10 minutes. I will try to find out what it was called and get you the info.

azdiver
01-04-2008, 08:52
Thanks. I would really appreciate it! Once I find out the name of the procedure I can research it locally and find out who the best local doctor is for it. I'm pretty sure it's not a laser procedure and therefore, you might not have to use eyedrops so often afterwards while healing... let's hope!!

kancho
01-07-2008, 10:33
It was a great investment for me. I had it done 3 years ago and I am stil 20/20.. Originally I was 20/15. I think if I don't have to wear glasses for 10 years it is worth it. . But I would advise to goto a reputable places. And TLC doesn't seem reputable. i know 2 people who went to tlc and I know 2 people who had problems with TLC.

cutter77
01-11-2008, 23:41
I'd like to know of any options for "older eyes" too. I tried the cheesey stick on lenses, they were a pain in the neck and I lost both eventually from mask clearing.

I had the split lens mask but couldn't get used to it and it look plumb ugly. Before I get a prescription mask I'd like to get up to date on what surgical options are out there.

Bill22
01-12-2008, 00:24
I'd like to know of any options for "older eyes" too. I tried the cheesey stick on lenses, they were a pain in the neck and I lost both eventually from mask clearing.

I had the split lens mask but couldn't get used to it and it look plumb ugly. Before I get a prescription mask I'd like to get up to date on what surgical options are out there.

I had PRK done when I was 43. I was told by the eye surgeon there is no way to correct what I think you're talking about. Loss of near vision is just something we have to put up with as we get older. The eye loses it's ability to focus on near objects.

Before the surgery I was in bi-focals, but usually read without glasses. Up close was still sharp. After the surgery I was like everyone else my age. If it's small print, I have to put on my reading glasses. For me the trade-off was worth it. I went from 20/200 to being able to read the bottom line on the eye chart :-)

The best way is probably to have a mask where it's ground in into the lens, but of course that's more expensive :-) Scuba Toys has a mask like that which is fairly reasonable, but it didn't fit my face.

I have the stick on lenses on two of my masks and they've worked fine for me. Between the two I've made probably 80 dives in the last six months and not had any problems. There was another discussion thread on the subject of the stick-on's coming off. The usual problem seemed to be not putting the concave side down (easy to do as I did that myself initially but fortunately realized it before I went diving and was able to correct it)

Sorry, I know that probably is not the answer you wanted to hear...

azdiver
01-12-2008, 08:17
I'd like to know of any options for "older eyes" too. I tried the cheesey stick on lenses, they were a pain in the neck and I lost both eventually from mask clearing.

I had the split lens mask but couldn't get used to it and it look plumb ugly. Before I get a prescription mask I'd like to get up to date on what surgical options are out there.

Util I'm able to find out if there is some type of procedure availalbe for people that only need reading prescriptions, I wear a contact in one eye when diving. It does help me read my guages, see if my shot is focused well and spot some of the littler critters. Fortunately, I don't have binocular vision so I don't have problems with wearing onely 1 contact. Chek with your eye doctor about getting fitted... he/she should be able to give you a trial pair to see if that works for you in the meantime.

hicole
01-17-2008, 12:36
I had this done last year after wearing glasses (astigmatism) for 30 years. I wonder why I waited so long to do this. Great results and no down side.

Gombessa
01-17-2008, 13:42
Yep, I was thinking about lasik for a long time, but being able to dive without wearing contacts is really what pushed me to make the decision. It was one of the best things I've done. Extremely quick and "routine" (totally turnkey). I had myopia nearly to the limits of the laser (-9,5, -10 diopters) and now see slightly better than 20/20 and no dry eyes or halos. Minor higher-order aberrations sometimes show up, but a way better tradeoff than how I was (not) seeing before.

loudgonzo
01-21-2008, 14:03
Lasik “Trip” Report


After over 15 years wearing contact lenses, and about 2 years after first thinking about Lasik, it finally happened Jan 17, ’08. The main deciding factor was that for the past 4 months or so, I began having a lot of problems with my contacts. I wore Accuvue disposables and you are supposed to replace them every 2 weeks, although I routinely used them for well over a month at a time. The contacts started to irritate and dry my eyes and I had the feeling of having an eyelash or specks of sand in there. New contacts did not help and my first thought was my box of lenses was from a bad batch, after going through 4 additional boxes (6 lenses in each) in less than a month, I dug up my old glasses and wore them on and off between contacts, with each new pair lasting only a few days.

With the decision to get Lasik done at the beginning of the year, to be able to use medical spending account, the next step was finding a surgeon. I’m sure everyone has heard the ads from the TV, radio and papers from many different laser centers, but going through a referral from my healthcare provider at work gives members a discount.

After setting up the initial consultation, I was told to remove contacts if I was wearing them, and wear glasses at least 4 days prior to the initial exam. A series of eye scans on different machines are done as well as a basic eye exam to determine what your present eyesight is. On one of the machines, you keep your eye focused on the center of a winding spiral while a camera takes pictures of your eye, while another machine “maps” your eye and determines if the cornea is thick enough to perform the laser procedure. Drops are added to dilate your eyes, and the doctor looks for any damage or problems in your eyes.

After all the exams are done, the Dr. sat down with me and we go over a review of the procedure. It is at this time when you are told if you are a candidate for Lasik procedure and the different options. Eye disease, cornea too thin…and a few other issues will prohibit one from getting traditional Lasik treatment.

The different options include different laser technologies, and whether you want the corneal flap created by a traditional microkeratome (a sharp blade cuts your cornea and creates the flap), or have it created with IntraLase (a laser cuts your cornea and creates the flap). They are both reliable and safe, and the choice comes down to a matter of comfort and preference, as well as cost. The IntraLase will set you back a few hundred dollars PER eye, and this is the method I chose, for the simple fact that even though it is completely safe, I’m not comfortable with the thought of a blade slicing through my cornea.

The difference in laser technologies is what the overall price comes down to. We have also all heard of the generic $499 per eye ads in papers, and as you might (should) expect, very few people qualify for this teaser ad. The ones that do, have pretty good eyesight to begin with and their prescriptions are very low. At the center I went to, the introductory price was $799 per and your eyesight had to be lower than -3, and offered no lifetime guarantee.

My first surprise is that if your eyesight is higher than -3, then it does not matter how bad it is, the price is the same. I assumed that the worse your eyesight was, the more expensive the procedure, this is not the case at the center I went to, and do not know if it is this way at other centers.

The first technology is known as “Variable Spot”, the laser used is VISX Star S4. This machine adjusts the size of the laser over the treatment area. For patients with eyesight lower than -3 and astigmatism lower than -1, the cost is $799, those with -3 or above or astigmatism over -1, the cost increases to $1699.

The second technology is called “Flying Spot Technology”, which is a smaller laser that moves over the surface of the treatment area. The laser used is the Bausch & Lomb Technolas 217z. The cost regardless of eyesight is $1699.

Third is the “Custom Wavefront Technology” using the VISX CustomVue laser. Talking with the Dr., he explained to me that this laser continuously monitors and measures your eye for any irregularities and treats them. For example, if there is a “bump” in your eye, then the laser will smooth it out. The cost for “custom wavefront”…$2099.

The end-result using any technology is the same, 20-20 or better, the difference in technologies is measured in the recovery. Those that choose “custom wavefront” for example, tend to see a lesser effect of halos and glare afterwards. There tends to be less discomfort and less dry/itchy eyes. This is how it was described to me by the Dr. I did not opt for the “custom wavefront”, so the above is strictly his description.

After the consultation with the Dr. I sat down with the people at the reception desk and set a date for the actual procedure, there is an eye drop prescription for “Vigamox” that needs to be filled prior to surgery. As if the surgery itself is not expensive, the 3mL bottle will set you back about $75.

If contacts are being used, they need to be removed at least 1 week prior to surgery. Driver needs to be available to drive you home, and possibly the following day for follow-up.

My surgery appt. was set for 12:20pm, arrived a few minutes early and signed in. I was called to the counter and signed off on a few forms, including payment form and method.
It was a mileage credit card for me, to be expensed with my medical spending account this week. After the paperwork is done, we went back to a consultation room and a care package was given to my wife. (your spouse, or whoever is with you can accompany you and also watch the procedure). The package included some lubricating drops, instructions, cheap sunglasses, emergency numbers and a pair of sleeping goggles.

Off to the pre-surgery room where the Dr. meets with you and explains the procedure. There will be a few numbing drops put in your eyes, then they put one eye cover over one eye and pry your lids open with a device to keep you from blinking. During the procedure, there is absolutely no pain or discomfort felt. The only feeling is a very slight pressure on your eye. I did not even get the sensation of wanting to blink. The Dr. is talking to you the entire time and letting you know what comes next. There is a ring like device that goes right onto your eyes and keeps it from moving while the laser cuts your corneal flap. During this time, there is a sound of light suction and a whirring sound. Your lose eyesight for a few minutes while the flap is being created, then it comes back and you are positioned underneath another laser. You look straight up and focus on a small red light with a green ring around it. Again, the Dr. explains everything that is going on, says to expect some clicking sounds and that means the laser is in operation, and there is about 30 more seconds to go, 20 seconds, 5 seconds…and we’re done. Time for the second eye, and the process is repeated. I was on the table for a total of about 10 minutes, starting with the numbing drops, one eye at a time taped shut, flaps created, Lasik procedure, flaps repositioned, antibiotic drops, and voila, it’s over. The process is just too easy and simple.

All the while, there is a glass wall where other patients are waiting, or getting briefed during initial consultation. This is the place where your driver or whoever you are with can watch you get the procedure done, and there is also a monitor that is linked directly to what the Dr. is seeing during the procedure. I got to watch a lady get her eyes done right before me.

After surgery you follow the Dr. to another room where he will look to make sure the flap seated back down on the cornea properly. When you get off the table, you can immediately tell the difference, but the vision is pretty blurry, like looking through watery eyes.

We drove straight home and was told to take a 2-4 hour nap to get past the first post-operative symptoms. These included a burning/stinging sensation and lots of watering eyes. I kept my eyes closed during the drive home, but every time I opened them, the floodgates also opened and started tearing like crazy. The worst part is you CANNOT rub your eyes!!! This can lead to rubbing the flap out of place and other complications. Getting home it was straight to bed, I woke up about 3 hours later and the burning/stinging sensation was very mild by now. Vision was a little blurry and my eyes teared quite a bit. I also had a headache, but not too bad. My wife told me the Center had called to check up on me while I was asleep. They asked if everything was OK, making sure there was no pronounced swelling, bleeding or any other problems. The first day, you use the antibiotic drops every two hours, the next day it is 4 times per day until they run out, typically 6-7 days later. For the first 2 weeks, you also need to get Non-Preservative artificial tears, these are the one time use disposable kind. These are also not cheap at about $11 per box of 30, and these you are supposed to use every few hours. After 2 weeks, you can switch to the preserved tears in the bottle.

The following day I was able to drive myself to the follow up appointment. You must make sure to wear sunglasses anytime you are outside. My vision was near perfect, letters on signs far away seemed to blur slightly, but overall it was good. At the center, they rechecked the flap, look for any damage, and an eye exam showed my vision 20-20, and I believe that at my 1 week follow up, it will be better. It has been 4 days since my surgery and my vision has gotten even clearer and sharper since then. Far away letters don’t blur anymore, and I have no dry eyes, no irritation, and no stinging. I must still continue to use the antibiotics until they run out in a few days, and I must still use the artificial tears for at least 1 month, even if I have no dry eye sensation. At night, my vision is very clear; the “halos” are almost unnoticeable. I notice them more on green lights than on an oncoming car. Brighter lights, like on a parking lot seem to have slight “starbursts”, but again, this is very slight and almost unnoticeable.

Sleeping with the protective goggles is awkward, but necessary so you don’t rub your eyes in your sleep. These are supposed to be used for the first week, but you must still be careful to not rub your eyes hard for the first month; remember, there is nothing holding that flap in place except its own tendency to stay in its natural place. There is no “stitching” or “glue” to keep it in place, it will heal naturally on its own over a few weeks, but you must still be very careful.

All in all, I am extremely satisfied with the result. I do believe the overall cost of Lasik surgery is overpriced to begin with, not including the upgradeable options like “custom wave-front” which adds $400 per eye to the cost, and the “IntraLase” (flap cut by laser) which adds $300 per eye. But the demand is there and I can tell you there is no shortage of people lining up to get it done. There were quite a few people in the waiting room during my initial consultation and on surgery day, but they were very efficient with all patients. The office was very well staffed, and very friendly. The longest I waited for anything was no more than 10 minutes or so.

Included in the price is a lifetime satisfaction plan, which provides free laser vision enhancements for life, free post-procedure check-ups for one year, lifetime access to patient care services.

I would highly recommend the center where I had Lasik done to anyone, PM me and I will give you the centers information. This report is based on my opinion and the prices I posted are accurate at the time of my surgery.



I forgot to mention in the report that I did ask about if there would be any effect on diving, and the answer is no. During the first month, you do want to avoid any activities that may cause damage of infections in your eye, including diving. Others are swimming, flying a kite in the sun, boxing and things of that nature. There is a follow up consultation at the 1 month mark, and this is where the Dr. can release you for these activities, with precaution of course. Plan on taking a few weeks off from diving if you decide on Lasik.

WAHMof2
01-21-2008, 16:12
Very good to know. I've been considering it for a while.

azdiver
01-21-2008, 17:28
that was one of the best descriptions I've read. my friend is thinking about getting it done and i will cut and paste your post into a document for her.

PlatypusMan
01-21-2008, 18:08
I would highly recommend the center where I had Lasik done to anyone, PM me and I will give you the centers information.


I'll take a PM on the Center's info and ask you a question:


Did the doctor say how the surgery will affect or limit your Scuba diving?


PPM

loudgonzo
01-21-2008, 19:27
I would highly recommend the center where I had Lasik done to anyone, PM me and I will give you the centers information.


I'll take a PM on the Center's info and ask you a question:


Did the doctor say how the surgery will affect or limit your Scuba diving?


PPM

PM sent, no effect or limit on diving, report edited to include this info:smiley20:

cutter77
01-21-2008, 23:40
That was a very thorough report....answered a lot of questions for me. Thanks for taking the time.

bmp51
01-22-2008, 01:38
I am saving for it now!!

Just dont go cheap is what I have been told..

kancho
01-22-2008, 09:06
$2100 that is a good price.. I paid 4500 for mine and that was with a 20% discount. THere is no lifetime warranty.. My doctor specified 10 years.. Since as you get older they know that it will eventually go again. But It was a good investment.. Not wearing glasses is great. I got the custom wavefront. Where it maps your eye in real time. Originally I had 20/15 after the surgery. It has been 2 years and now it dropped to 20/20 which is still good. Yes don't go cheap.. Remember depending on how thick your cornea is you might only get one chance.. I think there is a site called TLC disasters.. I am unsure of the URL but my friend got it at TLC. It wasn't done well.. His consultation wasn't good, they told him that he was a good candidate. his result was 20/40.. And he may require a touch up later this year once his eyes are fully healed.

Gombessa
01-22-2008, 11:49
Yeah, there are a lot of considerations, but generally you get what you pay for.

There's a site out there that has a list of "50 questions to ask your lasik doctor" which I found very useful. It had very insightful and detailed questions, such as:

How many procedures have you done on the lasik machine you're using for people with my prescription, and what were the results?

What is the worst result you've encountered and how was it resolved?

russp
01-24-2008, 10:40
I've been thinking about it for a long time due to thick glasses (-10. & -9.) but never did it because the FAA restricted pilots from getting it. The rules recently changed to allow it with certain test being required after about three months to reinstate the pilot's license so I may look at it again.
Currently I'm using a prescription dive mask because contacts in my prescription were too uncomfortable.

Gombessa
01-24-2008, 10:59
Does the FAA allow lasik, or something else like PRK? Discomfort and healing times should be considered for the latter.

But your prescription is almost identical to mine (-9.5, -10), and I'm almost 20/15 after lasik, so it can work for you.

greenarcher
01-24-2008, 11:56
Before I had my treatment with Dr. Wiles at Lasik-1 (http://www.my2020.com), I had trouble seeing clearly even with my glasses on. Now I can see my alarm clock without holding it in front of my face and I can see road signs without squinting. I donít hate driving at night anymore. My life is so much better now; I only wish I had gone to Lasik-1 sooner! Thank you for helping me see what Iíve been missing!"

russp
01-24-2008, 12:43
Does the FAA allow lasik, or something else like PRK? Discomfort and healing times should be considered for the latter.

But your prescription is almost identical to mine (-9.5, -10), and I'm almost 20/15 after lasik, so it can work for you.

From the way I read the new regulation, they allow just about all the current procedures as long as an FAA medical examiner does a follow up once vision stabilizes and certain criteria are met.

cmburch
02-16-2008, 01:45
I had mine done at Newman LASIK Centers of Northern California March 2007. They use the VISX S4 Laser system. The same system that is used at the UC Berkeley Refractive Surgery Center. Berkeley charges alumni about $2000 per eye whereas Newman charges about $1150 per eye for the simular procedure. They do offer lifetime should the shape of the eye change as you get older. But my friends say that after a certain age the shape of your eye tends not to change. The CustomVue™ Custom LASIK vision correction system corrected my astigmatism. I now have excellent vision especially for seeing in low light levels such as in the evening, when its raining, and when scuba diving. I used my cafeteria plan at work to pay for it (tax free money). It is a big difference when spearfishing. I can now see the fish sooner than my buddy.

JillianAnnO
02-18-2008, 14:09
I've worn glasses since Kindergarden and about 6 months ago, I bit the bullet and had Lasik. I love it more than I ever thought I would and it's amazing to be able to see as well as I do now! I went to Carter Eye Care Center in Dallas and have recommended him to some coworkers. I can't wait to start my diving classes and not have to worry about my contacts getting dry or having to take them out! I say, "go for it!":smiley29:

Wolfie2012
02-18-2008, 19:41
I had lasik done several years ago. When I scheduled the appointment, I noticed that the surgeon was a regional doctor who worked out of a few different cities. What I assumed by that was that he had an office in all of these cities and performed the procedure at certain times of the month in each of those cities.

So, day before the appointment I figured I would drive around to find the surgical office (my initial appointments were at a different local office). Unfortunately I couldn't find the office, but it was dark and I figured I just missed it.

Fast forward to the next morning and I'm driving with my wife to find the place. We turn a corner, and no joke, there is a semi-truck with a door on the side of the trailer and stairs leading up. I was like, holy crap, and immediately was fearing for my life.

So anyway, I get up the nerve to go inside and go through the procedure. When I go back to get the surgery done, they actually tell my wife that she can't wait inside because there was only enough room for the patients. She ended up waiting in the car the entire time. Well, other than that the inside of the truck was actually rather nice, and they had state of the art equipment.

It really ended up being the best thing I ever did and I never had any problems at all. Fun story to tell though. ;)

Loves2Dive
02-18-2008, 21:11
I've been thinking about this also. I have 20/40 uncorrected and 20/15 corrected vision. I thought about doing it but am concerned it could put me in reading glasses earlier when I'm older. Anyone know if there's any truth to that?

First a bit of background:

I used to work for Visx, the leading manufacturer of Lasik laser systems and the Wavefront diagnosti system. I was in the Laser Test for one year, and the Research department for 4 years, so I have a unique perspective on the question of Lasik, its safety and its efficacy.

Lasik is a fantastic option for anyone that has to wear contacts on a day-to-day basis. Basically, anyone with 20/40 vision or worse can benefit. with Wavefront-assisted Lasik, it is possible to achieve 20/15 vision.

While I have not had the need to have the procedure myself, my father and my Aunt have both had the procedure done with excellent results.

Now, about the reading glasses....

As a person ages, the lens ibn the eye begins to crystallize, making it gradually harder and harder for the muscles to bend the lens in order to focus. this is why one needs reading glasses. the condition is called presbyopia, and, so far, there is no cure that I know of outside of reading glases.

So, to answer your question, no, Lasik will not (that I know of as of today) put you into reading glasses any sooner that you normally would.

I would feel confident recommending the procedure to anyone (and I do not benefit financially from this advice at all!), especially if you have problems seeing underwater, or need prescription lenses in thier masks.

Hope that helps.

L2D

cmburch
02-18-2008, 23:14
5 years ago I was able to focus to read and work up close without removing my eyeglasses which I use for distance. The last few years I had to take my glasses for distance off to read normally and work on small parts or equipment. Laser eye surgery is the same as not being able to remove the eyeglasses. I have excellent results for distance and low light levels, but now I can not just remove my eyeglasses to read or work up close. Many people say that you mainly need distance, but I feel the negative part of having to hold things at arms length to read or work. For closer work, I use bifocals that have magnification only in the lower part of the lens and no magnification in the top. I am very happy with my laser surgery, but I do miss the ease at which I use to read or work up close.

maggs_the
02-19-2008, 06:07
I've been thinking about this also. I have 20/40 uncorrected and 20/15 corrected vision. I thought about doing it but am concerned it could put me in reading glasses earlier when I'm older. Anyone know if there's any truth to that?

First a bit of background:

I used to work for Visx, the leading manufacturer of Lasik laser systems and the Wavefront diagnosti system. I was in the Laser Test for one year, and the Research department for 4 years, so I have a unique perspective on the question of Lasik, its safety and its efficacy.

Lasik is a fantastic option for anyone that has to wear contacts on a day-to-day basis. Basically, anyone with 20/40 vision or worse can benefit. with Wavefront-assisted Lasik, it is possible to achieve 20/15 vision.

While I have not had the need to have the procedure myself, my father and my Aunt have both had the procedure done with excellent results.

Now, about the reading glasses....

As a person ages, the lens ibn the eye begins to crystallize, making it gradually harder and harder for the muscles to bend the lens in order to focus. this is why one needs reading glasses. the condition is called presbyopia, and, so far, there is no cure that I know of outside of reading glases.

So, to answer your question, no, Lasik will not (that I know of as of today) put you into reading glasses any sooner that you normally would.

I would feel confident recommending the procedure to anyone (and I do not benefit financially from this advice at all!), especially if you have problems seeing underwater, or need prescription lenses in thier masks.

Hope that helps.

L2D

do you know how hard it is to take your serious posting with you sticking your tongue out??

DRNightdiver
02-19-2008, 07:08
Wife had it done 5 years ago.....still 20/20

Chocoholic
02-23-2008, 14:39
I had lasik 10 years ago and it was fantastic. I was legally blind (didn't know that til the surg) but corrected with lenses to 20/20. I also had a significant astigmatism. I had one surgery, wore glasses for several months and then had the touch up surgery to 20/15.
I now have to wear reading glasses, sort of, and my distance vision is getting a bit worse, but I am so happy I had it done. I do notice a little more sensitivity to light, and some night vision issues.
When I would go waterskiing they would have to take me out in the very middle of the lake because I would've ran into the dock or anything not being able to see it. After surg, no problems.

Chocoholic
02-23-2008, 14:43
oh also before surgery, i swam up to someone else and latched on thinking it was my hubby. Very embarrasing.

cmburch
02-23-2008, 14:55
oh also before surgery, i swam up to someone else and latched on thinking it was my hubby. Very embarrassing.

I can think of similar situations. So it doesn't get lost, I wonder if there is a thread to post this experience such as Embarrassingly Funny and Entertaining Moments.

Chocoholic
02-23-2008, 15:52
I forgot about when I was in scuba classes that they took all of our masks and threw them into the middle of the pool and said OK, now go find them and put them on... you know with your scuba gear on. Well I wandered around u/w for awhile and the instructor finally took my hand and pointed at a mask then he put my hand on the mask and I put it on. I couldn't see a darn thing, but it was a great exercise.
Oh, also in that class I was putting on a dry hood and I wandered around underwater and I started to feel really uneasy, I think I was about to panic. The instructor came up to me underwater and looked at my face and then he unfolded the hood that was partially covering my right eye. I was so darn nearsighted that I couldn't tell it was partially covering my eye.:smiley5:.. I was fine as soon as he fixed it. I got prescription lenses in my mask right after that, well I had them ordered before that they just took forever to arrive.
What a great class, but I had to practically be nose to nose with the instructor to see what he was doing when I didn't have my contacts in. I am so glad I got Lasik.

bluven
03-01-2008, 09:26
I had lasek done on Feb. 1st. FDA describes it as an off brand procedure. This is typically done for people with thin corneas. My doc preferred the procedure because you don't cut the cornea. His analogy was that it's like getting a raspberry vs being cut; the raspberry scabs over and heals while the cut heal with a scar. He argued that there is less long-term risk.
As of Thursday the 21st I am 20/20. As I healed, my near vision was significantly affected and I had difficulty reading and using the computer the 1st week after the surgery. That has now stabilized and I am 100%. Doc says my myopia is gone and will not return in my lifetime. I'm 37 and he said I should expect to need reading glasses between 46-50 which is typical. I can't wait to dive!
I had the surgery done on Friday and had to return to work on Wednesday. I would say a week off would have been more appropriate. I'm a history teacher and I wasn't able to do many of my normal daily tasks because I couldn't read very well that 1st week. My eyes were most irritated on days 3 and 4. I'd compare it to being very tired and you close your eyes and feel a slight burning sensation. Doc removed the protective contact on day 7 and that made a big difference.
Hope that helps.

DivingCRNA
03-01-2008, 16:46
I had it done 7 years and am 20/15 and still diving!

rfb3
03-01-2008, 18:17
I recently checked into it, but I am not a good candidate due to my eyesight is still changing...

Bill22
03-02-2008, 11:41
His analogy was that it's like getting a raspberry vs being cut; the raspberry scabs over and heals while the cut heal with a scar. He argued that there is less long-term risk.

The same argument that the Navy uses. Lasik is only performed in select circumstances. PRK is the surgery of choice for vision corrections. I was 20/200 before my PRK surgery five years ago. I'm 20/10 now :)

BoomerNJ
03-02-2008, 14:12
Well, I had PRK on December 20th & I'm still not seeing 100%. I'm a little disappointed, to say the least. My last visit I was 20/30 & little improvement over my visit 3 weeks before... What sucks is that falls into the category of acceptable results, according to the doctor. So I may have paid $4000 for eye surgery & may still need to wear glasses. Some days my eyes are terrible while other days they seem to be getting better. I don't really know what else to expect here. I asked the doc point blank last visit, am I going to have 20/20 vision & he said yes, but that it can take up to 6 months... lucky me...

Spartan
03-03-2008, 10:47
am I going to have 20/20 vision & he said yes, but that it can take up to 6 months... lucky me...


personally, i think it's BS, if you didn't get 20/20 when the procedure was done, something wasn't done right.

Haven't read through all the threads if you made a mention of your vision before the procedure, but as soon as i came off the table, i could see perfect. it's been 12 years and due to working on computers all day, my eyes have changed slightly to 20/25, but mostly at night.

i'd get reevaluated by another doc.

rye_a
03-03-2008, 10:58
My brother-in law had it done and is very happy with the results.

BoomerNJ
03-09-2008, 12:53
personally, i think it's BS, if you didn't get 20/20 when the procedure was done, something wasn't done right.

Haven't read through all the threads if you made a mention of your vision before the procedure, but as soon as i came off the table, i could see perfect. it's been 12 years and due to working on computers all day, my eyes have changed slightly to 20/25, but mostly at night.

i'd get reevaluated by another doc.

Unfortunately, I hear that a lot from people who had the actual LASIK procedure. I had PRK instead, which does take longer to heal. I could see very well when I got off the table, compared to my vision before the procedure. I am just not at 20/20 yet. The Doc says it is due to the scar tissue & as it clears up, so will my vision. I hope that is true. If after my next appointment on 3/21 I am still not any clearer, I may get a 2nd opinion to see if this guy screwed my eyes up or what...

robcomptec
03-11-2008, 13:53
Has anyone here had this done, and are you happy with it?

My wife is getting it done at the end of the month, and I am seriously considering myself.....After 20 years of contact lenses the thought of not having to deal with that is very attractive....

I had lasik done on my eyes in 2000.

I was around -2.75 diopter myoptic, with astygmatism (sp?).
My eyesite is now in the 20/30 range.

I was a good candidate for the procedure, with good cornea thickness and within the ideal diopter range.

Like others, I setup a medical Flexible Spending Account (FSA) with work, so that I can use tax-free dollars for the procedure.

There is risk in this procedure! Don't let anyone tell you otherwise!

Getting lasik will not prevent you from going presbyoptic after 40 (going farsighted, needing reading glasses).

There are lasik procedures where you get mono-vision, one eye corrected for nearsighted, one eye for farsighted (I always thought that this would be bizzare, and I would not consider doing this).

But, back to my experience.
I am happy with the results.
I am not yet 40, and I don't (yet) need reading glasses.

- Robert

HolgMaster
03-31-2008, 12:51
I would be scared of getting any surgery done on my eyes. Somehow i feel that glasses are OK. I am -3.75 sp and -1.25 on my other eye. I spend days on research and it is even not the money, i still have this line to cross until i can convince myself that I can do it.

scubabell
04-03-2008, 09:56
I had custom wavefront lasik last year and I've been seeing 20/15 since. It took about 60 seconds per eye and was uncomfortable (pressure) but not painful. I was very nervous but it was so worth it! I also asked the doctor about a rumor I had heard that you shouldn't dive after lasik because of the pressure changes but he said it was fine.

BoomerNJ
04-12-2008, 23:51
I am getting much happier with my results. There have been improvements over the last 3 or 4 weeks & my eyesight had improved quite a bit as measured at my last visit, better by about -0.50 in each eye from the visit prior. Currently (as of my last visit) I have 20/25 vision, which I am happy with. The doctor says they are still healing & will continue to improve & I should have 20/20 or better within 6 months from the original surgery date...

EuphoriaII
04-14-2008, 10:23
I had Lasik about 5 years ago. Still 20/20 and very happy with it