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andyallen69
09-25-2007, 14:32
Greetings from the UK.
Water temperature where i dive was around 53 degrees at 20m (60ft) in the summer and 44 degrees at 30ft back in February when I did my first open water dives. Now I know this isnt cold by some standards but out of interest what regulators do you US cold water divers use and recommend ?

WV Diver
09-25-2007, 14:36
Dry suits are probably preferred by most and in my opinion are more comfortable than say a thick heavy wetsuit but with the comfort of drysuits also comes the bucks. They are expensive but worth it if you are going to be doing alot of cold water diving.

andyallen69
09-25-2007, 15:31
Hi

Im a dry suit diver already, we learn in them over here. Its the regulators you use Im interested in thanks.

WV Diver
09-25-2007, 15:36
Hi

Im a dry suit diver already, we learn in them over here. Its the regulators you use Im interested in thanks.OOps, sorry I guess I read that a little fast. Personally I have the aqualung Titan LX Supreme (cold water rated) for the second stage and the first stage is environmentally sealed which also helps to keep things from freezing. So far, so good, no problems yet. I have had it in 45F water.

andyallen69
09-25-2007, 15:42
Hi

Same regs as me and also no problems so far. They are quite popular over here.

BSea
09-25-2007, 15:53
Greetings from the UK.
Water temperature where i dive was around 53 degrees at 20m (60ft) in the summer and 44 degrees at 30ft back in February when I did my first open water dives. Now I know this isnt cold by some standards but out of interest what regulators do you US cold water divers use and recommend ?I use an Atomic B2 that is environmentally sealed. I also use a modified vintage double hose regulator refered to as a Phoenix RAM. It's actually very nice in cold water, and both the 1st & 2nd stages are totally sealed.

For more information on the phoenix modification look here (http://www.vintagedoublehose.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=952).

quasimoto
09-25-2007, 20:31
Zeagle Flathead VI. Been to 39 degrees at around 40 feet. Had it to well over 100' in the 40's several times and no problems.

jbres1
09-25-2007, 21:52
I dive with Scubapro MK17's doubles.
Have used them for about a year now with out a problem.
Coldest I had them down to was 42 deg F. , They were fine at that temp., but I was not. I was diving in a 7 mm farmer john, and lasted at that depth for only 8 minutes .
Jim Breslin

caroln
09-25-2007, 22:07
I use a Scuba Pro MK25/S600 and have had no problems so far (down to the 40's).

GrtLks
09-25-2007, 22:21
I dive the great lakes in Michigan (cold water, routinely in the 30s-40s at depth) and use Poseidon regs. They are a popular choice in the area and have a good cold water reputation.

subsur
09-25-2007, 22:24
i use Poseidon Xstream deep 1st and 2nd stages and my buddy uses ScubaPro MK25 with 600 second stage. we dive around Boston. The warmest was +14 C and the coldest +7 C. You should be quite familiar with poseidon regs since they are from Sweden and popular in Europe.

scubasavvy
09-25-2007, 23:44
Any diaphragm regulator. I was told pistons freeze up. I like my Sherwood Brut...

paintsnow
09-26-2007, 02:16
Zeagle VI

Zeagle all the way baby...

as you can tell
i like zeagle

wxboy911
09-26-2007, 07:42
I have been diving an aqualung Titan LX which is good down to 50 by the manufacturer specs-once it gets past 50 I am not too lilkely to dive. I spoke with the tech at my LDS and he said the Titan LX Supreme is for cold water but he has rarely seen the LX freeze up.

Subaqua
09-26-2007, 07:50
I also have the Titan LX Supreme. Works great.

thor
09-26-2007, 09:02
Titan LX for me also. No problems freezing in 45 degrees.

BSea
09-26-2007, 09:11
I have been diving an aqualung Titan LX which is good down to 50 by the manufacturer specs-once it gets past 50 I am not too lilkely to dive. I spoke with the tech at my LDS and he said the Titan LX Supreme is for cold water but he has rarely seen the LX freeze up.
I think the legal dept put the 50 limit on the reg.

DUnder
09-26-2007, 11:12
I use a apeks ATX 50 no problems with it but I have only had it down to 50 degrees. I know other divers that use Apeks for ice diving, all model Apeks are very popular around here.

somewhereinla
09-26-2007, 11:17
I use an Apeks XTX50. Whatever you get you want the 1st stage to be environmentaly sealed. The 2 brand I see most are Apeks and Aqualung (legend). Scubapro is popular as well.

Buoyant1
09-26-2007, 11:21
I've been using an environmentally sealed Zeagle DS-IV for three seasons now, and have had no problems at 42 degrees at depth.

Theepdinker
09-26-2007, 11:22
Atomic B-1 not enviro sealed.
Monterey, Ca. diving temps usually 52F at the surface, 46F at depth.
Deep water upwelling tends to keep temps the same year round.
I've never had any trouble with this reg.

Theep

in_cavediver
09-26-2007, 18:23
Dive Rites (with and without the ICE kit), Zeagles - Flathead 6, DS4 and envoys all in cold water. Some cold enough to be solid! All worked just fine and to depths of around 140'

DivingsInMyBlood
09-26-2007, 18:41
Hi

Im a dry suit diver already, we learn in them over here. Its the regulators you use Im interested in thanks.OOps, sorry I guess I read that a little fast. Personally I have the aqualung Titan LX Supreme (cold water rated) for the second stage and the first stage is environmentally sealed which also helps to keep things from freezing. So far, so good, no problems yet. I have had it in 45F water.

I 2nd this reg, I have one and it gets the job done.

dludwig
09-26-2007, 19:55
Was at 89' in 47* water in April & had problems w/ my MARES Rebel. Immediately bought an Abyss & love it :smiley20:

Otterinaround
09-29-2007, 15:52
I began diving with the MK250's in Pennsylvania... yes IT IS FRIGGIN COLD!!! I moved up to the Dive Rite Hurricanes for Trimix and HAVEN'T looked back since. The biggest issue I'd have to say I've ever seen comes mostly in the second stage department where water can crack a reg into freeflow. Cold icky bubbling water that just won't quit may remind some of a stay in a cheap hotel's jaccuzzi but in the lake it can spell trouble and stress. ALWAYS GO FOR A DAMN GOOD REG octo and primary are KEY areas not to skimp on. When you do without air you realise how honestly essential it is!

cummings66
10-02-2007, 11:29
I've routinely dove 36 degree water with my Sherwood Blizzard and Apeks XTX50. Good solid regs for cold water. Somebody mentioned the Brut for cold water diving, don't do it. That regulator is NOT suitable for cold water, as in don't dive with me during the Winter if that's your regulator. The odds of it free flowing are much higher than a regulator built for cold water usage. The Brut is a good regulator for what it's meant for, hard usage in warm water but don't make it do something it's not meant to do. That's asking for trouble. A diaphragm regulator does not equal a cold water regulator.

darkstar
10-02-2007, 12:09
What a difference a board makes. On other boards I've been on, the answer would have been almost entirely Apeks.

Most around here dive Apeks DS4/TX50 or DS4/ATX50. Some Scuba Pro and a few rich guys with sealed Jetstreams or Xstreams

I dive ATX200 and DS4/TX50 on my doubles. Love Apeks.

I still have a Sherwood Blizzard that I started out with. They are very reliable, but really poor performers.

Diving a Brut in anything other than 40 ft of warm, clear Caribbean water is just crazy talk. And a Brut is a piston reg BTW.

bubble-head
10-02-2007, 12:11
I use a Scuba Pro G-250 with a MK10 first stage. Of course, this was purchased back in the 90's but it's still going strong.

MSilvia
10-02-2007, 12:25
I also use the Apeks DS4/TX50 for both doubles and singles, and I've had them under the ice on consecutive days without ever having a freeflow.

CompuDude
10-02-2007, 13:16
How cold do you really need your regs to stand up to?

I dive a Scuba Pro MK25/S600, but only in waters to the mid-to-upper 40's. The MK25 is not considered reliable in waters colder than that (freeze-ups can happen). If you're only diving into the mid-40s, this would work well for you... as would a large number of other regs.

Colder than mid-40's, I would look at the MK17 instead of the MK25, which is an excellent [extremely] cold water performer. I often hear about the Mares Proton Ice Extreme as being very good in the coldest temps as well (into the 30s).

This site (http://www.supsalv.org/webapp/anu/home.asp?user=public/) lists cold water regs approved for the U.S. Navy, including the temps they are rated to, and lists a number of good regulators for extreme cold conditions.

cummings66
10-02-2007, 18:31
I didn't see anything I'd consider extreme cold.:icon_cheesygrin:

However, maybe you know the website of where they list all models they test? I have to search the site I know of to find out, for example the Blizzard is ok to use if you restrict it's depth duration and temps. Is there an easy way to find that data?

10-25-2007, 21:06
Dry suit the best , have an old sherwood maximus in 34 deg with no problems for it, I was cold on my face!!

tarheeldiver
10-26-2007, 06:08
Titan LX Supreme!!

jakeeib
10-26-2007, 08:07
I learned to dive in Germany and understand the cold water you are talking about, although I didnt have the benifit of a dry suit my 7mm did ok, any way I used the APEX ATX 200 and never had any problems with it.

Hex92
10-26-2007, 14:36
I have two Dive Rite RG2500 regs with the cold water kit for my doubles. I have no problems with them in cold water.

Marcin2005
10-27-2007, 07:34
I dive my Mares Abyss for the past 10 yrs (without cold water kit) and never had any issues with it in temps from low 30s to mid 40s. It's made tough, and a great breather.

My next reg will probably be MK17/250V combination for no other reason than I want one :)

Mario R
11-16-2007, 16:42
I'm from Canada and let me tell you, I dive always in cold water. My reg is a Zeagle Flathead VI and my dives are always between 30 F and 34 F and never experienced any prob with it. Zeagle :smiley20:

asaara
11-19-2007, 17:02
I use a Proton Ice without the extra cold water kit in water temperatures down to "really glad I was in a drysuit with that thermocline" in the Great Lakes and haven't had problems, but I'm not into ice diving. Can't remember the exact temperature offhand, but cold.

jerdr1
12-01-2007, 12:26
I use the Sherwood Blizzard in Maine and it has never failed in the past 4 years and over 600 dives.

PsychDiver
12-02-2007, 08:30
DUI Drysuit and Apek XTX200 to stay warm and to keep the air flowing.

clayton
03-14-2008, 21:12
My regs are the genisis.2000 and work well in all temps down to 40 deg,my wife has scubapro mk17 and it also works well.:smiley20:

terrillja
03-14-2008, 21:28
Oceanic GT3 down to 36F, no problems.

jeepbrew
03-14-2008, 22:46
ScubaPro MK17 & S600

navyhmc
03-14-2008, 23:12
Poseidon Jet streams for me-no problems yet.

texdiveguy
03-14-2008, 23:20
I have Oceanic//Salvo and Mares in service for cold water....all work fine.

Scoobidoo
03-15-2008, 01:15
Apeks XTX series and Zeagle

divingbuddy
03-16-2008, 18:43
Another happy Poseidon user! I have also used different Mares regs under the ice without any concerns. Love those Poseidons though...Cheers!

RoyN
03-16-2008, 23:22
scubapro Mk25 and S600

WD8CDH
03-17-2008, 07:20
First choice is my old doublehose. Backup either my Conshelf Arctic Explorer or my Poseidon 300 with environmental kit. I have been in below 32 degree water with all three.

Kabniel
03-23-2008, 22:56
Apeks ATX 40s for me. Will be taking them in to 39 F tomorrow :smiley20:

coyote
03-24-2008, 07:21
Zeagle flathead VI.

39 degree water @ 100'. No worries.:smiley20:

Crimediver
03-24-2008, 09:05
I use a Zeagle Flathead 6 a lot when I am not using a double hose reg like the DA Aquamaster.

I also have good luck with the Conshelf 14 Supreme. It has a sealed first stage and has only froze up at 38 degree water when I was filling lift bags.

My PSD team uses Aqua Lung Arctics and Proton Ice regs as well as the Interspiro AGA mask. Never had a problem freezing up.

aiseson
03-24-2008, 15:55
I've been diving a Poseidon Cyclon for 15 yrs in water from 29-85 deg. never any problems...

mselizann
03-25-2008, 08:06
I have a ScubaPro Mk20 (yes, I had the update done)
no problems with it

mobeeno
04-19-2008, 11:37
Greetings from the UK.
Water temperature where i dive was around 53 degrees at 20m (60ft) in the summer and 44 degrees at 30ft back in February when I did my first open water dives. Now I know this isnt cold by some standards but out of interest what regulators do you US cold water divers use and recommend ?
I dive in Northern California using Scubapro Mk10 and Aqualung conshelfs regularly. For cold water I have heard some Sherwood models are well known. Apeks, Scubapro and a few others make cold water regs too.

ChrisC
04-19-2008, 21:44
Sherwood Magnum and Sherwood SR1. I've had the Magnum in 46 - 49 deg water several times with no problems. The SR1 was only in the water once, water was 45 deg., was flawless. Many of the divers I have spoken with here in NJ recommend the Sherwoods for cold water diving.