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TRACI
11-14-2007, 12:45
I am trying to decide if purchasing a swivel for my regulator would increase my comfort level while diving, any recommendations?

ScubaToys Larry
11-14-2007, 12:48
I'd love to sell you one... but I'll tell you the truth... probably not. The swivels that are built into the hoses like the one on the oceanic delta IV are great. Oceanic Delta IV FDX-10 Regulator, Regulators, Oceanic, Oceanic Delta IV FDX-10 Regulator (http://www.scubatoys.com/store/detail.asp?product_id=OceanicDeltaIVReg)

But those add on ones are so heavy, that what they take away in hose position, they add in weight on the right side of your mouth.



So unless you have a very special need for one, like trying to run the hose under arm and up, I'd tell you that you'd be better off with just a new mouthpiece that holds better for you like the Seacure: Sea Cure Mouthpiece, Accessories: Miscellaneous, SeaCure, Sea Cure Mouthpiece (http://www.scubatoys.com/store/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=SCI)

TRACI
11-14-2007, 12:53
That's what I was afraid of, too much weight. I have a oceanic Alpha PX3 that I really like because it is light, so I would hate to add alot more weight to it, because sometimes by the end of the dive it will start feeling a little bit heavy.

Jay_SMART_Diver
11-14-2007, 13:11
I have them on both my Second stages and I've really liked them.

No Misses
11-14-2007, 13:18
I use one on my pony bottle due to hose routing issues (pony on left side-hose crosses my chest from lower left to upper right). I like the comfort. But, it is another point of failure (O-ring in swivel, screw could work loose, etc.) I am planning on switching to a standard 90 degree fitting for my pony rig.

mike_s
11-14-2007, 13:19
I am trying to decide if purchasing a swivel for my regulator would increase my comfort level while diving, any recommendations?


just make sure the one you purchase doesn't fall under the CPSC recall.

Innovative Scuba Concepts Recalls Diving Regulator Components Due to Drowning Hazard (http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml07/07200.html)


http://www.innovativescuba.com/CPSC-Recall.pdf

RocketMan
11-14-2007, 13:20
I also use a swivel on both my 2nd stages. I like them. But because I do, doesn't mean you will.

BSea
11-14-2007, 13:21
I am trying to decide if purchasing a swivel for my regulator would increase my comfort level while diving, any recommendations? You could look at the Atomic Swivel (look at accessories) (http://www.atomicaquatics.com/) that's built onto their hose. It's like the hose that comes on the B2. It's kind of pricey, but it should do what you want without adding weight.

Even though Larry didn't mention it, they do carry them, but I couldn't find it on the ST website.

jwdizney
11-14-2007, 13:31
I'd love to sell you one... but I'll tell you the truth... probably not. The swivels that are built into the hoses like the one on the oceanic delta IV are great. Oceanic Delta IV FDX-10 Regulator, Regulators, Oceanic, Oceanic Delta IV FDX-10 Regulator (http://www.scubatoys.com/store/detail.asp?product_id=OceanicDeltaIVReg)

But those add on ones are so heavy, that what they take away in hose position, they add in weight on the right side of your mouth.



So unless you have a very special need for one, like trying to run the hose under arm and up, I'd tell you that you'd be better off with just a new mouthpiece that holds better for you like the Seacure: Sea Cure Mouthpiece, Accessories: Miscellaneous, SeaCure, Sea Cure Mouthpiece (http://www.scubatoys.com/store/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=SCI)


I have the Delta IV and the Sea Cure.... very comfortable combination!!!

gibson1525
11-14-2007, 13:40
i've wanted one of the titon ones for a while for the convenience and comfort but in the end it wasn't worth the safety issues for me. i haven't heard any bad things about the atomic ones but the titon ones are known for coming apart.

Aussie
11-14-2007, 16:05
I am trying to decide if purchasing a swivel for my regulator would increase my comfort level while diving, any recommendations?


just make sure the one you purchase doesn't fall under the CPSC recall.

Innovative Scuba Concepts Recalls Diving Regulator Components Due to Drowning Hazard (http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml07/07200.html)


http://www.innovativescuba.com/CPSC-Recall.pdf

I bought two of these swivels and I had one blow the o-ring when I was in Thailand. It blew just before I was getting into the water for a deep dive.
I was talking to another diver and he had the o-ring blow at 30m.

So I dont use them anymore.

Maybe look at those 90 degree bends you can get. No o-ring and they do the job.

Aussie

Puffer Fish
11-14-2007, 16:13
I am trying to decide if purchasing a swivel for my regulator would increase my comfort level while diving, any recommendations?


just make sure the one you purchase doesn't fall under the CPSC recall.

Innovative Scuba Concepts Recalls Diving Regulator Components Due to Drowning Hazard (http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml07/07200.html)


http://www.innovativescuba.com/CPSC-Recall.pdf

I bought two of these swivels and I had one blow the o-ring when I was in Thailand. It blew just before I was getting into the water for a deep dive.
I was talking to another diver and he had the o-ring blow at 30m.

So I dont use them anymore.

Maybe look at those 90 degree bends you can get. No o-ring and they do the job.

Aussie


Thanks for pointing that out, seen on go when the air was turned on...

texdiveguy
11-14-2007, 16:39
I suffer from Temporo-Mandibular Joint (TMJ)--jaw pain.....though it has been on the mend in terms of its soreness now over the past several months--!!!..so on my primary reg. I use a swivel and a Dive Rite 'long bite' mouth piece as a good solution. I am though hoping to give a few trial dive by removing the swivel, seeing that things at least for now are improving pain wise...I stopped chewing gum, that also helped a lot with the TMJ discomfort....my wife insists I should stop talking also--dang!

WestTnDiver
11-14-2007, 16:45
I upgraded my Atomic B2 a couple of years ago and have no regrets. The swivel and the seacure have really made a difference in comfort. I probably could have gotten a longer hose since most of my discomfort had to do with the reg constantly being pulled down and to the right.

ScubaToys Larry
11-14-2007, 16:58
You could look at the Atomic Swivel (look at accessories) (http://www.atomicaquatics.com/) that's built onto their hose. It's like the hose that comes on the B2. It's kind of pricey, but it should do what you want without adding weight.

Even though Larry didn't mention it, they do carry them, but I couldn't find it on the ST website.

That's because we are not allowed to ship Atomic products within the US. Doesn't seem fair, if you live in Australia we can... but not in Alabama or Austin!

It's to try to protect their local dealers... now if there is not an Atomic dealer within 100 miles of you... then we are allowed to, but otherwise - only outside the US.

RoadRacer1978
11-14-2007, 17:01
What if you are a local dealer within 100 miles of us? Guess we gotta make the drive in that case.

chace_nicole
11-14-2007, 22:49
I tried one of these during my OW and did not care for the swivel...felt like it was pulling from the weight...but thats just me. I plan on trying the seacure when I purchase my reg (in about 2 wks) wooohoo can't wait! :)