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lovesmexico615
12-12-2007, 13:44
Hey guys,

Looking for feedback. I'm trying to get this down, but my settings always seem to be a bit off. I'm using an Olympus 770SW (has an underwater setting that I've been using) but I'm thinking a manual setting might work better. And any thoughts on how to get rid of backscatter?

http://web.mac.com/a_smerage/iWeb/Site/Blog/B6534D75-4309-48D8-8375-72C94DAFC6A4_files/GreenMorayOnWreck.jpghttp://web.mac.com/a_smerage/iWeb/Site/Blog/B6534D75-4309-48D8-8375-72C94DAFC6A4_files/SeaTurtle.jpghttp://web.mac.com/a_smerage/iWeb/Site/Blog/0E080ECF-C26E-42B0-8E13-C42F0C77A86E_files/PB280034.jpghttp://web.mac.com/a_smerage/iWeb/Site/Blog/0E080ECF-C26E-42B0-8E13-C42F0C77A86E_files/Stalagtities.jpghttp://web.mac.com/a_smerage/iWeb/Site/Blog/3458C295-2298-48BA-BA9B-4DD5F134043D_files/QueenAngel.jpghttp://web.mac.com/a_smerage/iWeb/Site/Blog/3458C295-2298-48BA-BA9B-4DD5F134043D_files/PB290131.jpghttp://web.mac.com/a_smerage/iWeb/Site/Blog/B6534D75-4309-48D8-8375-72C94DAFC6A4_files/MamaVinaMast.jpg

scubaculture
12-12-2007, 13:52
Love the turtle shot

I assume you are using the built in flash? If so maybe look at getting a strobe. Not sure if a diffuser will make much of a difference

Scubakraut
12-12-2007, 14:14
some of them are not bad. As I was advised you could probably gotten rid of the "blubs" with a external strobe and the full light frame would have turned out better.

MSilvia
12-12-2007, 14:28
There are two ways I know of to get rid of backscatter, and they both involve not using the camera's internal flash, which will bounce the light off of every particle in front of the camera straight back at the lens.

The first, simplest, and cheapest is to take your photos in relatively shallow water when vis is good and the sun is shining. Ambient light can give excellent results if the conditions are good.

The other option is to light the subject indirectly, so that light isn't bounced straight back at the lens from the flash. Something like this:
http://www.thedecostop.com/matt/backscatter.JPG

lovesmexico615
12-12-2007, 14:48
Gotcha... not sure I have deep enough pockets for a strobe right now. I have a diffuser, and have tried turning the flash off when I know I have enough ambient light. Expensive hobby to pick up... maybe Santa will be very nice this year...

Out of curiosity, what do you think of the 3rd picture? It's my favorite one I came back with, and am curious to see what people have to say about it.

-A

adv_diver1
12-12-2007, 18:28
Without the strobe you won't get the really bright colors as much, but I have to say those pictures are very good. With better equipment, you might be the next Guy Harvey!!

Good luck and post some more.

navyhmc
12-12-2007, 18:36
For first time shots, pretty good.

The stalagtite/stalagmite shot kind gives me a head ache though. Try to orient thoses shots more verticel as the brain tries to make that orientation as it's processing the image (read: normal paradym.) The reflection shot is better on this as there is the rock as a vertical reference. [/photocritic]

The turtle and your last two shots get an "A" from me.

Puffer Fish
12-12-2007, 19:02
Not bad... I like #3.. but would not make the best print... #5 is a bit contrasty... but I like it.

You can "fix" #1...with any good photoshop program.. have to be careful... but it could be corrected into a great shot.

Puffer Fish
12-12-2007, 19:14
I did a really crude job on this (but only took 30 seconds).. but this should show the idea:

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j98/garinj/GreenMorayOnWreck.jpg

lovesmexico615
12-13-2007, 09:19
For first time shots, pretty good.

The stalagtite/stalagmite shot kind gives me a head ache though. Try to orient thoses shots more verticel as the brain tries to make that orientation as it's processing the image (read: normal paradym.) The reflection shot is better on this as there is the rock as a vertical reference. [/photocritic]



Thanks, I see what you mean about the orientation. I enjoy the canted view of some of these shots, but it can be startling for some. I really enjoy the photography- it lets me be more creative than I normally can be at work. Now it's fine-tuning my technique, and figuring out how to work with ripping currents- they were faster than anything I had been in this last time, and the majority of my shots came out not quite so good!:smiley29:

lovesmexico615
12-13-2007, 09:22
Thanks Puffer- did you use the clone stamp? I've been tweaking just to get colors corrected, but don't want to do too much. I've seen photoshop go bad very quickly by people who know the program much better than I do...

I'm trying to get close in on my subjects so the focal depth is shorter, but sometimes I just can't get in there that well. With time I guess I'll get better at it.

Mtrewyn
12-13-2007, 09:44
I like the turtle shot, it's very clear.

i think the External strobe would clean it up alot, But as i don't shoot uw I am just guessing.

ScubaJW
12-14-2007, 08:30
Do you have a dive light? My buddy uses his UK eLED Plus when he takes macro pictures, and turns off the flash. His pictures are magnificent.

jugglematt
12-19-2007, 04:19
Hi lovesmexico
the advice i would give considering you have no external strobes is really try to fill the frame with the subject you are shooting. this will make you get much closer.

if your using you cameras flash and you cant reach out and touch the subject your photographing ,,,,your too far away , so either moove closer or turn the strobe off and use natural light to illuminate the subject.

i would try selecting subjects that dont moove very fast like sea stars ,nudibranchs or ockys ,,settle yourself down on the sand infront of your subject get comfortable and start taking photos , take multiple photos of each subject , and moove in closer.

i like you natural light shot with the light beams shining down.its a good start also try posting on wetpixel and asking for camera settings from other users of your camera

best of luck
matt

Streamline
12-19-2007, 08:31
Gotcha... not sure I have deep enough pockets for a strobe right now. I have a diffuser, and have tried turning the flash off when I know I have enough ambient light. Expensive hobby to pick up... maybe Santa will be very nice this year...

Out of curiosity, what do you think of the 3rd picture? It's my favorite one I came back with, and am curious to see what people have to say about it.

-A


I think the pictures are great ... and #3 is my favourite ... followed by the turtle (... maybe get into some photoshop to brighten them up a bit)

lovesmexico615
12-23-2007, 08:59
Guys,
Thanks for all the input. I'm planning out my next trip now, and am trying to figure out of I can afford a strobe before I go...

On another sidenote... how do you all store your housing? closed, or open? And the O-ring? I have spares, but would rather not go through them and faster than necessary....