Heading Hitting 1st Stage

[fire diver]

Originally Posted by jacewindu

From the Oceanic Regulator Manual:

http://www.XXXX.info/news/safety/s070301.html

Note replaced website with X's in the above link.

Sorry for this hijack...

Please don't EVER link or even visit the C D N N website. That site is a sham. It is run by an anonymous person(s) who hide thier identity and change web hosts and addresses to avoid prosecution. They plagerize news articles, spread lies, and basically use the site to bash a handfull of divers he/she/they have a grudge against. They list many big names as advertisers, but this is false also. The companies either never sponsered the site or sponsered it once long ago. Many companies have tried suing to remove their company from the site, but the site still exists, and continues to list these false sponsers.

Now back to your regularly scheduled posting...

FD

[Black-Gorrilla]

so, did you get this figured out?

[Vercingetorix]

When using the Zeagle Brigade, my head also hit the first stage when looking up. I had top cam strap at tank shoulder.

Originally Posted by Larry

When tightening stuff up, remember it's brass you're dealing with, so tighten by hand as tight as you can, then with your wrench just give it a little past hand tight. Probably approx 12 to 1 on the clock... maybe to 2... but don't try to tighten it like lug nuts on a car.

That might also help!

Thanks for that info. When moving hoses, I've not known quite how tight it should be. Ya know, you may want to add a section to the Forum on gear repair and maintenance. Helpful hints from the Folks at ScubaToys kinda thing

[lucidblue]

Originally Posted by Black-Gorrilla

so, did you get this figured out?

Haven't had a chance to mess with it in the water yet. Maybe this weekend, we'll see.

[Dive-aholic]

Originally Posted by cummings66

I've seen these first stages but have not compared them to mine which are Apeks and Sherwood. My Sherwood will do this to me, I live with it. The Apeks is so much smaller that it never happens with it. Both are DIN by the way. So, you may be able to switch to din which gives a shorter reg, or failing that and if you don't like diving with it rotated sideways or can't fix it by moving things around then I'd say look into the Apeks DS4. It's pretty compact for a first stage. I don't know what Oceanic runs for the IP, but it's probably compatible with the Apeks DS4.

DIN is a great suggestion, except most shops/resorts don't have DIN valves on their tanks. That leaves having to use a DIN adaptor, which will only puch the 1st stage out even more.

[scubachris]

Hi guys, I have the exact same problem.I am using OMS 32lb wing with a STA.My STA is already in the lowest hole in the bp and Im still getting my head smacked against the 1st stage of my Apeks XTX20. I figure out the only way is to thread my top cam band through my bp and wing cam band slot instead of the STA cam band slot...anymore suggestions?

[CompuDude]

Originally Posted by scubachris

Hi guys, I have the exact same problem.I am using OMS 32lb wing with a STA.My STA is already in the lowest hole in the bp and Im still getting my head smacked against the 1st stage of my Apeks XTX20. I figure out the only way is to thread my top cam band through my bp and wing cam band slot instead of the STA cam band slot...anymore suggestions?

That's the most frequent solution. Just be sure not to move the tank so far down that you can't reach your valves.

[fire diver]

Originally Posted by scubachris

Hi guys, I have the exact same problem.I am using OMS 32lb wing with a STA.My STA is already in the lowest hole in the bp and Im still getting my head smacked against the 1st stage of my Apeks XTX20. I figure out the only way is to thread my top cam band through my bp and wing cam band slot instead of the STA cam band slot...anymore suggestions?

Are you using a crotch strap? Your plate may be moving up on you.

FD

[cummings66]

If you use DIN and decide to dive somewhere other than the local waters then you convert it back to YOKE and won't have issues. To be honest, the adaptor for DIN to Yoke on the Apeks regulator doesn't really add that much distance. In fact it ends up the same as my Sherwood used to be when it was a Yoke based regulator. That worked fine for me when I used to dive AL tanks.

For what it's worth I can touch my head to my regulator, but I can also reach my valves and adjust them. If I placed the tank so that I couldn't touch the first stage with my head than I also could not work the valves with my hands.

I find that most of my dive buddies are the same, if we can reach and use the valves we can also touch the first stage with the back of the head. You get used to it. Mind you we can still look forwards, it's not like it stops us from moving our head back at all.

[Wolfie2012]

Originally Posted by fire diver

Are you using a crotch strap? Your plate may be moving up on you.

FD

That's what was happening with me at one point, as well as my hog harness shortening my shoulder straps when pulling my waist strap tight (least when the rig was wet). Crotch strap helps!