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Old 12-31-2007, 01:36 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I'm with the person who talked about only direct flights on the holidays. I used to fly back to the northeast from out west where my only option was to change planes in the airlines hub and spoke system and and didn't matter who I flew with, I ran into problems such as yours. Delta, Continental, American, United, US Airways (loved the luggage pile in Philly one year).

My flight over the same time period to Florida was delayed in both directions, but at least I didn't misconnect and my bags made it. We were 60 minutes late leaving Denver, by the time you factor in de-icing and all of the other issues of flying in the wintertime.
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Old 12-31-2007, 01:48 PM   #22 (permalink)
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After that flight I think I would sent it to The FAA as well as all the Carriers that service KC, and all the airports that you went through, and that repeat it to anyone that will listen.

That is horrible!! that is like the nightmare we all dread about flying.
I have flown a lot, and never had anything like this happen. I have been delayed and held over night, but never lost bags both ways...
Have no doubt that if the situation were reversed these morons would sue you for everything you got.

But you kinda wish you could say, when they are completely relieing on your competance...."succinylcholine is all you need, here you go. Propofol, Versed and Fentanyl are too much trouble for me to draw up, I want you to enjoy this experience as much as you had me enjoy your United Flight! Anyway you can intubate yourself (and you better hurry) - It's time for my smoke break, I'll be back in a half hour or so....
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Old 12-31-2007, 02:40 PM   #23 (permalink)
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FYI just a threat of bad weather and they start stacking up at Ohare. I will never connect through Ohare again. I will drive and leave directly from Ohare so at min I have a vehicle I can drive across town to Midway and catch a flight from there if I have to.
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Old 12-31-2007, 02:45 PM   #24 (permalink)
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The thing that would gripe me is the lost luggage, and I've had that happen, even when I've flown myself...

But, the thing I'd suggest anybody reading this thread best learn is this, when the PIC says he's not landing, I don't care why he said it, I don't care if it is an inconvenience to me personally, he knows his skills and the planes, he knows the big picture and if he says he can't do it then by gumption that's all you need to know.

Be thankful he didn't try land and kill every single one of you trying. In the old days many plane crashes could have been prevented had the PIC had the backbone to say I'm not doing it.

The saddest thing I've seen in doing SAR is plane crashes that didn't need to happen because the pilot felt pressured to do something he didn't have the skills for, or the weather was too bad and he did it anyways.

Who knows, maybe Buddy Holly would still be here had the pilot said no.
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Old 12-31-2007, 03:35 PM   #25 (permalink)
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So is this a bad time to remind you that the Federal Government has dumped Millions of dollars into the Airlines to keep them afloat? I mean it is our tax dollars and all..... er probly not the best time !!! But I feel for you. I encountered something very similar coming home from Germany a few years ago with the same airlines.
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Old 12-31-2007, 03:36 PM   #26 (permalink)
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That's a complete atrocity! Thanks for the lesson though, now I have a better idea of how to go about things should this happen to me, just sucks that it had to happen to you! With the traveling I've done (just the lower 48 states thus far) I've always had luck with U.S. Air - Sure the seats are cramped for my 6'4", 220 pound frame - But all my **** has gotten to my destination with me!
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Old 12-31-2007, 03:48 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Our pilot was cleared to land, had the gear down and chickened out on vis (these things DO land on instruments, right?) and circled until we had to fuel in Moline, IL.


As far as the weather, most large commercial airports have approaches that go down to 100ft.
We were at O'Hare and the pilot told us on the intercom that the vis was 1/4 mile when he tried to land.
Linear visibility isn't the same as the visibility ceiling.
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Old 12-31-2007, 03:53 PM   #28 (permalink)
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They were the typical RUDE, LAZY, SLOW St. Thomas natives.
My level of compassion for your predicament is seriously lowered by my dislike for statements akin to the above. I've never understood why folks travel to locations populated by people they hold in contempt.

That said - direct flights or connecting flights to a different airline go a long way to stopping lost luggage. Never trust an airline to get your bags to change planes!

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After that flight I think I would sent it to The FAA as well as all the Carriers that service KC, and all the airports that you went through, and that repeat it to anyone that will listen.

That is horrible!! that is like the nightmare we all dread about flying.
I have flown a lot, and never had anything like this happen. I have been delayed and held over night, but never lost bags both ways...
Have no doubt that if the situation were reversed these morons would sue you for everything you got.

But you kinda wish you could say, when they are completely relieing on your competance...."succinylcholine is all you need, here you go. Propofol, Versed and Fentanyl are too much trouble for me to draw up, I want you to enjoy this experience as much as you had me enjoy your United Flight! Anyway you can intubate yourself (and you better hurry) - It's time for my smoke break, I'll be back in a half hour or so....
NICE, that is SWEET
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Old 12-31-2007, 05:35 PM   #30 (permalink)
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The government has spent many millions into all areas of air traffic except the air traffic control systems. The FAA continues to overwhelm and already overwhelmed system. The tracon systems for the NY metro airports (JFK, Laguardia, Newark, stewart, Islip and teterboro. was designed to handle JFK and Laguardia traffic during the early 70's. It is held together by bailing wire.

The Enroute system is also not being updated quickly.,

BTW: I supported the enroute system for years.

I personally hate to fly now, and do it as little as possible.
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