Nitrox question

[bigman241]

GOt a nitrox question. Might be the wrong place if so sorry i wont be mad if it gets moved. I am getting my ow soon. And had a question. When is a good time to look at getting my nitrox cert and making the switch is this something i can do when i do my ow or should i wait some time.

[nrembis]

I would get it done immediately following OW or during OW as an addon which I think they will do now, just wont issue the nitrox c-card until OW is completed(may be wrong on that though).

[bigman241]

would it save me cash if i do them togather. I think i might call the shop and ask the price. I know tildens wants 300 for everything. but they where 200 higher on the ow then the lds. Guest that what you get when ones in florida and ones in indiana

Originally Posted by nrembis

I would get it done immediately following OW or during OW as an addon which I think they will do now, just wont issue the nitrox c-card until OW is completed(may be wrong on that though).

[nrembis]

In my opinion if nitrox class is more than 99.00 it is overpriced, there is no poolwork or diving involved, just bookwork

[bigman241]

Heres there fee list. Nitrox is in red. Says homework and boat. Maybe it includes a boat dive to use nitrox and have alittle fun thus getting them more money How are there fees on the other classes. I found a few shops down there cheaper but i have been there they seem to be a top of the line shop
Scuba Dive Middle Florida Keys Tildens Marathon Florida Keys Reef Diving
(Our open water courses are all-inclusive for any snorkel or scuba equipment you may need as well as all books and learning materials.
Classes start daily and can be arranged to fit your schedule.
To register for courses, please call Tilden's Scuba Center in the Florida Keys, 305.743.7255
Lessons:
Based on two or more students Discover Scuba (Pool Only) Age 10+ $125.99Resort Course (Pool & Boat) Age 10+ $225.99Resort Course (Additional Boat Trip) $175.99Refresher Course (Pool & Boat) $199.99Open Water Check-outs (2 Boat Trips) $299.99Open Water Certification (4 to 5 Days) Age 10+ $499.99Advanced Certification (3 Boat Trips) Age 15+ $450.99Nitrox Certification Course (Class & Boat) $299.99Rescue Certification (2 to 3 Days) $450.99Dive Master (10-18 Days) Price Varies Specialty Courses Price Varies First Aid/CPR $150.99Rescue Diver $450.99Snorkel Lessons (2 Hours - Pool Only) $40.99Resort Ranger (Half-Day Pool/Class) Age 8+ $125.99
Attention Instructors: If you are bringing students down, you can use our classroom at no extra cost!

Originally Posted by nrembis

In my opinion if nitrox class is more than 99.00 it is overpriced, there is no poolwork or diving involved, just bookwork

[Smashee]

IMO, do nitrox ASAP. We teach it to beginners as part of the Ocean Diver course. As for $300 seems more than a bit steep, but I'm used to BSAC prices rather than PADI. Last EANx course we ran cost people a whopping $15. :-)

[nrembis]

Originally Posted by bigman241

Heres there fee list. Nitrox is in red. Says homework and boat. Maybe it includes a boat dive to use nitrox and have alittle fun thus getting them more money How are there fees on the other classes. I found a few shops down there cheaper but i have been there they seem to be a top of the line shop
Scuba Dive Middle Florida Keys Tildens Marathon Florida Keys Reef Diving
(Our open water courses are all-inclusive for any snorkel or scuba equipment you may need as well as all books and learning materials.
Classes start daily and can be arranged to fit your schedule.
To register for courses, please call Tilden's Scuba Center in the Florida Keys, 305.743.7255
Lessons:
Based on two or more students Discover Scuba (Pool Only) Age 10+ $125.99Resort Course (Pool & Boat) Age 10+ $225.99Resort Course (Additional Boat Trip) $175.99Refresher Course (Pool & Boat) $199.99Open Water Check-outs (2 Boat Trips) $299.99Open Water Certification (4 to 5 Days) Age 10+ $499.99Advanced Certification (3 Boat Trips) Age 15+ $450.99Nitrox Certification Course (Class & Boat) $299.99Rescue Certification (2 to 3 Days) $450.99Dive Master (10-18 Days) Price Varies Specialty Courses Price Varies First Aid/CPR $150.99Rescue Diver $450.99Snorkel Lessons (2 Hours - Pool Only) $40.99Resort Ranger (Half-Day Pool/Class) Age 8+ $125.99
Attention Instructors: If you are bringing students down, you can use our classroom at no extra cost!

Looks like to me they have included a trip in their pricing, which some do and there is nothing wrong with that, but they should stipulate that for 299.95 you get Nitrox class and one 2-tank trip....etc...

[bigman241]

I would say for 300 bucks the nitrox and a nitrox deep dive would be worth it. Figure it would be the class which how many could that be. So you would get nearly a private dive.

Originally Posted by nrembis

Looks like to me they have included a trip in their pricing, which some do and there is nothing wrong with that, but they should stipulate that for 299.95 you get Nitrox class and one 2-tank trip....etc...

[mitsuguy]

their prices are a little high across the board...

in St. Croix, just to give you an idea, our prices for the same are:

Discover Scuba - $60 (in the ocean as a shore dive, a pool only DSD is free)
Accelerated Open Water (3-5 day class) - $325
Refresher course (includes one shore dive) - $60 (if you want to do one shore dive, then a two tank boat trip, it would be $150)
Open Water checkouts (as shore dives) - $225
Advanced Open Water - $200 for shore dives, or $250 if doing it off the boat
Nitrox - Classroom Only cert - $150, including two shore dives - $200
EFR - $100
Rescue - $300

They must not have any shore diving and require a lot of things to be done off their boat, so that is part of the price difference, but at the same time, they are a little expensive to start...

[scubadiver888]

Originally Posted by bigman241

GOt a nitrox question. Might be the wrong place if so sorry i wont be mad if it gets moved. I am getting my ow soon. And had a question. When is a good time to look at getting my nitrox cert and making the switch is this something i can do when i do my ow or should i wait some time.

bigman241,

I would wait before getting my Nitrox certification. There are two factors which cause a diver to end a dive. The first is usually running out of air. The second is nitrogen loading. Most new divers run out of air before they get loaded with nitrogen. Typical a cylinder of nitrox will cost twice the price compared to a cylinder of air. If you run out of air before you are nitrogen loaded, there is no advantage to nitrox and you are paying twice as much for your cylinder fills.

When I first started diving I would run out of air. That was my limiting factor. After I had been doing more pleasure diving and got comfortable with my equipment I started lasting longer and longer. Finally at some point I hit nitrogen limits and still had air left in my cylinder. I'm now at a point were I'll have 1000+ PSI but I'm nitrogen loaded. Using nitrox now makes sense for me.

I would recommend taking Peak Performance Buoyancy training (or when you do your AOW, read the chapter on PPB). This will be much more beneficial.