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Old 12-20-2007, 09:33 AM   1 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #1 (permalink)
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will this work?

Will the following fit?

Dive Rite Aluminum BP
Dive Rite Deluxe Harness
OMS Larry Green Signature Series™ Bladder
OMS Backpad (do I need it?)

Which weight pockets are good for it.
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Old 12-20-2007, 10:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The only thing that might not work on there is the OMS backpad depending on the holes on the Dive Rite. Also, I assume this is going to be a singles rig? If so, make sure you know what kind of lift on a BC you need. 45lbs might be excessive depending on the type of diving and you may be able to get a smaller more streamlined wing.
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Is this a singles or doubles rig. I think the Larry Green wing is for doubles, but I'm not positive. He's known for cave diving though, so I would think that a wing with his name would be for doubles.

And if it's for doubles, are you going to use steel tanks? If so, then why do you need weight pockets at all? Maybe if you are using a dry suit.

And Will is right about the backpad lining up. But I don't think you need it.

Now I'm not a big fan of OMS gear mainly because I think you pay too much for the name. For a wing, I like Oxycheq. They are the top of the line in my opinion, and priced better than Halcyon or OMS.

I like the Dive Rite deluxe harness. Mine has the chest strap, and gives me all the adjustment I need for any degree of exposure suit whithout any adjustment to the other straps. Now the true DIR guys will tell you that a hog harness is the only way to go.
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Will the following fit?

Dive Rite Aluminum BP
Dive Rite Deluxe Harness
OMS Larry Green Signature Series™ Bladder
OMS Backpad (do I need it?)

Which weight pockets are good for it.
You do not need the backpad. A 3 mil suit is plenty of padding. If you are trying to save a few bucks you might want to substitute a basic harness for the Deluxe Harness. As for the weight pockets; there are several pouches available. I opted for hard weights strung on my waist belt. They are not dumpable. But, that is OK with me.

I dive this kit.
Diverite SS backplate (~5lbs)
DR venture wing (45lbs lift / designed for single tank)
Basic Harness (HOG)
AL80 cylinder
I carry 4 lbs of lead when diving 3 mil full suit, and 7 lbs of lead when wearing 3 mil farmer john. The SS backplate gives me ~5lbs of ballast. If I dove an AL bp I would need to add 5 lbs of lead to my belt.

If I were buying my kit today I would probably go with the Oxycheck SS BP, Basic Harness, Oxycheck Mach V wing (30lbs).
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Thanks for the info
I dive with drysuit and I have an weight belt. And weight pockets I thought were pretty much standard (except rear ones) since it attaches to the webbing. I am diving singles at the moment but plan to dive doubles sometime next year. So am I to understand the bladder wont work with singles? I don't use much weights 10 to 12 pounds in dry suit (standard bc) in salt water. With thicker under gamrnetns 14 to 16 pounds..
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It's not that it won't work - but 45lbs is too much lift for a basic singles setup and will cause excessive size in packing and transporting and excessive drag. A 30-35# wing would be a better, more streamlined choice for your singles wing.
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Thanks for the info
I dive with drysuit and I have an weight belt. And weight pockets I thought were pretty much standard (except rear ones) since it attaches to the webbing. I am diving singles at the moment but plan to dive doubles sometime next year. So am I to understand the bladder wont work with singles? I don't use much weights 10 to 12 pounds in dry suit (standard bc) in salt water. With thicker under gamrnetns 14 to 16 pounds..
The most important feature when selecting a wing is what cylinder is it designed for? A bladder made for doubles would be too large for a single and will trap air, cause excess drag, and be less stable (more air in one side than the other, as it wraps around the cylinder). A bladder that is made for a single will be too small for doubles. It will be compressed between the cylinders and the bp. This may keep it from fully inflating and now you have less lift than you planned for.

The second most important feature is what lift do you need for your rig.

Both of these features are important, when choosing a wing. If you plan to switch between singles and doubles, plan on buying 2 wings. One for each configuration.

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Thanks for the info
I dive with drysuit and I have an weight belt. And weight pockets I thought were pretty much standard (except rear ones) since it attaches to the webbing. I am diving singles at the moment but plan to dive doubles sometime next year. So am I to understand the bladder wont work with singles? I don't use much weights 10 to 12 pounds in dry suit (standard bc) in salt water. With thicker under gamrnetns 14 to 16 pounds..
I guess my question is are you going to be primarily diving double after next year, or are you only going to dive them part of the time. If it's full time starting next year, then I'd put your rig together with that in mind. If not, then you should consider a singles rig, and a doubles rig.

For singles, I'd use a steel BP with an Oxycheq Mach V wing. Depending on what other gear you use, you might need the 40# lift, otherwise, a 30# should work. If you need weight pockets for this rig, I'd go with the XS Scuba pockets. Because you won't need much weight if any. Then I'd get the Dive Rite steel Tank cam bands.

For doubles I'd go with the aluminum plate if I was using steel tanks. I'm not sure about aluminum tanks. You might still need the steel plate. And again I'd go with an Oxycheq doubles wing. The wing would depend on the size of tanks you are using.
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Thanks for all your help guys.
When I dive single, I guess I will use my standard TUSA bcd.. And then use the harness for doubles. Is oxycheq better than oms bladders?
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Is oxycheq better than oms bladders?
They're both high quality wings, but OxyCheq products are much lower cost, and give you a little more flexibility with positioning by virtue of having two sets of mounting holes. I'll second the suggestion that weight pockets are probably unnecessary if you'll be diving doubles, and strictly optional if diving singles. I don't use them on either of my rigs, and I wouldn't call them "standard" at all... not that there's a standard non-hogarthian bp/w configuration.

The backpad is almost definately unnecessary.
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