ranger or bp/wing?

[Mtrewyn]

Originally Posted by Coaster

when you are sold on a product...you are sold. I use my ranger...sometimes carry alot of "stuff"....I like it...guess I'm used to it or maybe sold on it. Would like to hear more about wearing it using a drysuit.

I really like my Ranger, I too would like to hear about diving dry with one.

[3rdEye]

i dunno....i've failed to see the so called advantages of a bp&w over a bc like a ranger really....and since most "tech" gear manufacturers offer some kind of similar set up to a ranger, i figure it's just really personal preference.

[Brewer]

Guys I really do appreciate the argument between the 2 and I guess it really is a matter pf choice. I called one of my old buddys who dives dry with a ramger and he said he uses his suit for air instead of his bc. I was kind of thinking that the cumberbun would limit how the air in the suit would work, as well as letting the air out the arm has to be more of a pain in the ass than out of the bladder.
Matt if anyone gives you a ranger give me a call!!!!! lol

[freeski4ever]

I have both, but really prefer my BP/W due to the simplicity of it. Also, have you taken a look at the Ranger BP/W?? Its basically a combo of the two: http://www.compactscuba.com/rangerbpw.htm

[DiverMAN]

I would also suggest a BP/W, upgradeable, comfortable...

[Coaster]

Originally Posted by freeski4ever

I have both, but really prefer my BP/W due to the simplicity of it. Also, have you taken a look at the Ranger BP/W?? Its basically a combo of the two: http://www.compactscuba.com/rangerbpw.htm

Thanks..I can see value for that simplicity thing.

[SkuaSeptember]

Originally Posted by Brewer

Guys I really do appreciate the argument between the 2 and I guess it really is a matter pf choice. I called one of my old buddys who dives dry with a ramger and he said he uses his suit for air instead of his bc. I was kind of thinking that the cumberbun would limit how the air in the suit would work, as well as letting the air out the arm has to be more of a pain in the ass than out of the bladder.
Matt if anyone gives you a ranger give me a call!!!!! lol

I've been diving a Ranger with my drysuit for about 7 years. Love it! The cummerbund has no real effect on air movement because there is almost no way you could ever get it tight enough to compress your insulating layer to zero.
As to whether you dive using your suit to control bouyancy (my preference because loft = insulation) or go with a mild squeeze and use the BC to control bouyancy ( some say this is simpler) - that has nothing to do with brand or BC style. This is something that you should try both ways and see what works for you. There have been a couple of threads about the pros and cons of each.

[Brewer]

Originally Posted by freeski4ever

I have both, but really prefer my BP/W due to the simplicity of it. Also, have you taken a look at the Ranger BP/W?? Its basically a combo of the two: http://www.compactscuba.com/rangerbpw.htm

never seen that befor it looks like a ranger with out pockets/cumberbun pannel and add a 2" croch strap. honestly I think that just made the idea of ranger vs. bp/w more difficult. Just about the same price as well.

[MSilvia]

It comes down to personal preference. Try both and buy what you like.

[mm_dm]

[quote=SkuaSeptember;210578As to whether you dive using your suit to control bouyancy (my preference because loft = insulation) or go with a mild squeeze and use the BC to control bouyancy ( some say this is simpler) - that has nothing to do with brand or BC style. This is something that you should try both ways and see what works for you. There have been a couple of threads about the pros and cons of each.[/quote]

This is true. If you take a drysuit class, they usually teach you to use the drysuit for buoyancy control. If you learn tech, they usually teach you to rely on your wing more for your buoyancy control. This also gives you a redundant source of buoyancy should your wing fail.

I have a Ranger as well, my first BC. I dove the daylights out of it, a few hundred dives, before trying a BP/W. Since I went to the BP/W, the Ranger only gets used for confined water sessions with classes or refreshers. As much as I loved the Ranger, I've loved the BP/W more. Just my 2 bar.