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Old 09-19-2008, 03:19 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I am the odd ball in the group with 7mil quality 5 finger neo gloves and the dry suit.....BUT having worn both the products in the OP's question, I much prefer the 'rings' for ease of donning and comfort. Though I am sticking with my neo gloves.
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Old 09-19-2008, 03:23 PM   #12 (permalink)
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PM Bob3 on scubaboard. He's an authorized Viking dealer and sells the ring kit without the gloves for that price. You'll have to get your own gloves of course.
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Old 09-19-2008, 05:19 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I can only attest for certain regarding the Diving Concepts rings, not the Si Techs. I think the DC rings (suitside) are a twinge smaller than the Si Techs (smaller = less stretching of the seals), and are definitely smaller than the Viking Bayonet rings.

Rings do put extra wear on the seals. Frankly, though, my seals have lasted just as long as you would expect them to last being used normally, as plain seals. I do NOT, however, switch back and forth. Since I installed my DC rings, I have only used drygloves.

Note, however, that, depending on how you install the DC rings, the wrist seal remains functional, just shortened. For me, the way it happened to fit in the sleeve and seal of my DS (DUI CLX450), the seals are pretty short, to the point that I can be pretty much guaranteed damp forearms if I do not attach the gloves. They are, however, sufficient to keep my arms dry "enough" in the event of a total glove failure at depth. Due to an improperly attached, hasty glove change just before a dive last weekend, one glove lost integrity entirely. Because of the inner seal, however, I ended up with one dry arm, and one arm that was just a little damp, not even really enough to squeeze out actual liquid. On some suits with some longer seals, it's quite possible you'll be able to have fully-functional inner seals which you can dive without the gloves, totally normally, you just have the suit side rings still on, which are a tad bulky (but obviously manageable).

For me, drygloves (rings) were a godsend. I have slim wrists and prominent tendons... seals simply don't work well on me. Every dive was somewhat wet for me. Snap on the drygloves, and my sleeves are DRY.
Awesome, thanks for the info. I have very slim wrists and fairly prominent tendons as well, which is one of the things that had me thinking dry gloves in the first place.

I don't suppose you know a place to get the DC rings for a reasonable price? I couldn't find anywhere online, and my LDS wants to sell me the set for $180ish.
I bought both sets of mine used on DecoStop.

They come up there. RARELY. Gotta watch closely for a long time, pounce fast, and have a little luck.

Or pay retail.
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I bought both sets of mine used on DecoStop.

They come up there. RARELY. Gotta watch closely for a long time, pounce fast, and have a little luck.

Or pay retail.
Thanks. I think I will pick up the SI Tech rings for now then, since they are easy to get my hands on for a reasonable price, and seem to be fairly well regarded in general. If I have any problems, I can then watch for DC rings.
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I don't think the SITech rings are well regarded. Read around a bit and you'll see that many people have problems with them. They work, but you've got to be very careful with them or they will leak. It's all to easy to goof up. I've got several buddies who use them and every single one of them has had a major leak.

The Viking rings on the other hand almost never leak. Mine have never once leaked on me in the 4 years or so I've been using the Viking System. It's made by SITech as well, but to Viking specs and sold only to Viking. Bob3 can be trusted to deliver, he's a great guy and honest as the day is long.

For what it's worth, I no longer put a hose under my seals to the glove and I've been to 150 feet without issues in the drygloves, ie they didn't cause me pain from squeeze. You do feel it, but it's not painful, to me at least.

I wanted to add, in the Winter in the mid 30 degree water I will put an air tube in there so my fingers don't get frozen.
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I agree with Cummings... the Si Techs are dicey. Last resort ring system, IMO.

The Viking Bayonets are pretty fool proof, and the DC rings are pretty hard to mess up, too. I liked the smaller rings the DC rings offered... the Viking rings are freaking huge.

From what I understand, though, either would work well.
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Finally ordered my viking glove ring! Was diving from the Cypress Sea on Saturday and one of the diver looked at me with the "WTF" face after I showed him my 5mm fingerless glove! That was priceless, although to me, it kinda made me look stupid.

Did bought the SI-tech, but ended up selling it because the glove was so large, even Bigfoot's hand would still be roomy! Now all I need is the pink webbing harness and my life will be complete.
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Fingerless as in mitts, or so-worn-out-they-look-like-biking-gloves?
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They look like biking gloves. Reason why I did that was to prevent me from poking at creatures because I have a habit of doing that, but seem to stop now. Also, had problem clipping clips back on my D-ring.
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