Overweight Divers

[Eddym67]

I was wondering about this subject last night. It seems to be the norm now a days to be fat. Or at least 30 lbs over weight (which btw is fat). The 'average' person is over weight. I believe people have less self control than say 20 years ago. Instead of a piece of cake, why not have three. You see it in their shopping carts as well. Fat people die on average 20 years earlier than in shape or skinny. It is called Heart Disease. What I dont get is the fat people that smoke. Not trying to offend any one. You say you are comfortable with it, but I dont see you at the beach in a bikini....just shorts and t shirt....... (to the girls at my office).

[severian]

The obesity epidemic is serious. As an ED doc better then half my patients are morbidly obese....The obese are in general far sicker people on a whole then those who are not. it has alot to do with the western food supply...our food industry makes food as highly caloric as possible(except in the cases where they are marketing dieters, where they sell largely unhealthy low cal foods at higher prices). The food supply has been gradually lessened in quality over the past 30 years. generally becoming more and more refined and mono sourced. corn, due to its cheapness, makes up the vast majority of our diet regardless of whether we eat it ourselves or not...even salmon is corn fed now.

read michael Pollan's "The Omnivore's Dilemna".....a real eye opener.

[jimmysdevoted]

theer was s tudy done atthe NIH on fat( obese) and thin ( non obese) and what surprised them was afew things.
1 not all fat or obese peopel are over eaters. I for one not take a formosan, hawiian or miori as being a scarfing junk food addict. not by along shot.
Thin people have as much chroinic conditions as obese people. Many ahve enlarged hearts, endocrine, high BP, eating disorders, gastro problems and un diagnosed diabetes. yes being emaciated and overtly thin is a signb of active undiagnosed diabetes! its called marasmus.
This people had as much plaqu in their blood stream, intestinal disorders and complications as the obese subjects.
so it was conluded that it doesnt matter heavy or thin, nature will catch up to you no matter your predisposition.

what does change is hoiw propactibe you can be over long term. You can be morbidly obese ( think sumo wrestlers) and be healthy.

No you wont see me ina bikini because i dont care to show off for the world. i am quite happy being covered and not getting sunburned. I am theer to have fun, get wet and laugh until I cry and swallow enough water to make me puke....

I am diabetic and didnt start putting weight on until after I was diagnosed, changed my diet and was put on medication.......
My husband didnt start to put weight on until he reached 40.........

i do hwoever think our obsession with food is a killer.. I am relearning what hunger is and just because the clock says its time to eat.. eat...

so I say.. if you dont like what you see.. theres the door. I am happy, all divers are happy( it could be narcing too)...
irregardless of we are big or little....

wait till you get older
j

[Eddym67]

I am older. 40. 6'1 215lbs.
As you stated not all over weight people over eat. The majority do though and get diabetes. My sister is obese and wants to get the lap band. Every one wants a quick fix. I am Very Happy. I have a hot girlfriend that looks very good in lingerie and nothing at all. Yes, I am shallow. and sooo done with this thread. Just be Happy.

[bassplayer]

I actually used scuba as my incentive to get into "better" shape. I had quit smoking 3 years ago and my weight ballooned up. After a cruise with some snorkeling I decided I wanted to get back into scuba. I felt I needed to loose some weight and dropped 30lbs, then re-certified. I am still fat but getting in better shape thanks to diving.

[DivingCRNA]

Originally Posted by freeski4ever

The incident to which I was referring was at a local quarry, Clear Springs Scuba Park. I witnessed several guys with dicky-do's (when your belly sticks out farther than your dicky-do) scuba diving. Something about a gut hanging over a weight belt just doesn't seem right to me (right hand release or not).

You WERE in Texas. No shortage of fat folks there...

[Eddym67]

We are the fattest country. Mississippi (they fry everything) is the fattest state. I think Las Vegas is the fattest city.......Dicky Do....LOL

[severian]

Originally Posted by jimmysdevoted

theer was s tudy done atthe NIH on fat( obese) and thin ( non obese) and what surprised them was afew things.
1 not all fat or obese peopel are over eaters. I for one not take a formosan, hawiian or miori as being a scarfing junk food addict. not by along shot.
Thin people have as much chroinic conditions as obese people. Many ahve enlarged hearts, endocrine, high BP, eating disorders, gastro problems and un diagnosed diabetes. yes being emaciated and overtly thin is a signb of active undiagnosed diabetes! its called marasmus.
This people had as much plaqu in their blood stream, intestinal disorders and complications as the obese subjects.
so it was conluded that it doesnt matter heavy or thin, nature will catch up to you no matter your predisposition.

what does change is hoiw propactibe you can be over long term. You can be morbidly obese ( think sumo wrestlers) and be healthy.

No you wont see me ina bikini because i dont care to show off for the world. i am quite happy being covered and not getting sunburned. I am theer to have fun, get wet and laugh until I cry and swallow enough water to make me puke....

I am diabetic and didnt start putting weight on until after I was diagnosed, changed my diet and was put on medication.......
My husband didnt start to put weight on until he reached 40.........

i do hwoever think our obsession with food is a killer.. I am relearning what hunger is and just because the clock says its time to eat.. eat...

so I say.. if you dont like what you see.. theres the door. I am happy, all divers are happy( it could be narcing too)...
irregardless of we are big or little....

wait till you get older
j

I am not sure if your post was directed at mine, because i am absolutely not trying to criticize "fat" people. as far as waiting til i'm older...i am 42...so we are pretty close in age. As far as being soooooo wrong about obesity, i am sorry but there is no doubt it is you that is wrong. i have 15 years in studying medicine if you include my EM residency. No one would ever suggest that being "non obese" protects anyone from all illness, what I was saying is all else considered equal(genetics, lifestyle, etc) adding 50 pounds of fat to a person makes them less healthy. there isn't a doctor worth his salt in the world who will tell you that is not true. There have been countless studies on it. Not all people in the world get fat from eating highly processed foods, but here in "the West" that is the most significant dietary factor, this is not even questioned anymore in the literature.
another fact is if you are obese and you suffer a cardiac arrest your chance of survival is far less then if you were not obese. all of the things we need to do in an arrest situation are infinately more difficult due to the obesity. CPR, intubation, central lines, external pacing, cardioversion, defibrillation, bag valve vebtilation. All surgeries are infinately more complicated, and therefore risky in the setting of obesity...with the exception of neurosurgery....all vascular surgeries, abdominal surgeries, open heart. Obese people's recovery after surgery is a far more dicey situation then if you were to take the same person and remove 50,100 pounds.

i am not bashing fat people, but as an MD I feel compelled to speak factually about the subject. The situation has gotten so ridiculous in this country, that PR folks at the hospital discourage us from directly addressing these issues with our obese patients...."we don't want to offend the customer"......hello! No it is not allright for you to be 50-100 pounds or more overweight! doctors 30 years ago would think our healthcare system was insane today to be "worried about offending our obese customers". facts are facts.

[coral cowgirl]

".....facts are facts."
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I lost 30 pounds just by getting rid of the white stuff in my diet, (white sugar, white flour, white rice). I feel a lot better, my knees are happier and my cholesterol count is down.

Now, if they could just make sugar free chocolate taste "real"!

[gbrdiver]

I'm overweight...simply because I love eating good food and drinking red wine too much. To pay for my sins I do at least 20hrs of strenuous excerise each week. I find currents a piece of piss whilst my thin buddies chew throught their gas. Fitness comes in lots of forms.