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Old 08-29-2007, 09:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Air consumption VS. Muscle Mass (Leeching cells)

I'm kinda thinking if you have too much muscle, (more then you need to safely accomplish your underwater mission) as you move all that extra muscle would probably be using up your o2 for nothing more then waste. So there has to be an optimum weight or BMI (Body Mass Index) for scuba divers. If body builder and endurance athlete in the same cardiac shape were to sit on the bottom of a lake @ 50ft the body builder would probably use up his air faster then a leaner endurance athlete underwater just because off of the extra cells needing o2 let alone factoring in his movement. So does it really pay to work out or just stay out of shape so you don't carry around more leeching cells?
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Old 09-13-2007, 07:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't have a 'proper' answer for you, but here goes some opinon. A bigger person {take it from me!!!} will almost always use more air as they have more to move. Next take a look at body types of the same size, I will almost always give better air consumption to the person in shape, as their lungs, circulatory system, muscles are more accustomed to moving oxygen through the body.

Side note, can we please stop using the BMI (Body Mass Index) as a bench mark! It is a left over from the 60's/70's insurance buisness that still pops it ugly little head up. BMI only takes two factors into account ~height and weight. Not a very accurate tool to identify body types. A better method is to look into your body composition and identify percent of fat and lean body mass.

Hope this helps a little.
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Old 09-13-2007, 09:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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yep I had a friend who was technically obese by bmi but he was the same height as me and had 50 lbs of muscle on me.
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:38 AM   #4 (permalink)
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BMI is worthless, the last time I had one by BMI I have a 28% fat content. Done by a submerssion test, I was at 13%.

As for air consumption- the more fit diver will also work less to more themselves. But when it comes down to it, I would generally say that fitness and comfort are the 2 critical factors to reduce consumption, but really think that it has more to do with comfort than anything else.
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Old 09-14-2007, 11:13 AM   #5 (permalink)
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The more muscle you have the more oxygen you require because muscle tissue uses oxygen for two of it's energy production pathways. Since fat is merely an energy store, and not helping to propel the body, so it's oxygen demands are less. It's the same with metabolism: you can take two people, one with a high ratio of lean body tissue and one with a low and have them do the same activity, but the person with more muscle will burn more calories just by having more muscle tissue to support and maintain.

However, as some people correctly pointed out, most people who have developed good musculature have simultaneously developed good cardiovascular fitness, which means they do not get, in the scientific term, as 'winded' as other people doing the same activity, because their lungs and heart have become very efficient.

(Side note, a small minority of body builders have really crappy cardiovascular fitness, but the majority of divers are not competitive body builders so it really doesn't apply)

The BMI calculated on height-weight alone is rather silly and really general, but calculated on real body composition is great. The 9-point caliper test is cheaper than the submersion test, though not as accurate. I personally am a fan of body composition instead of weight alone as one measure of fitness. Heck, you can even do a 1-point test at home by 'pinching an inch.'

But all that aside, nothing can replace good cardiovascular fitness and good buoyancy control for regulating air consumption.
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Old 09-14-2007, 05:57 PM   #6 (permalink)
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im gonna agree on the Body mass index point... its pointless.
im muscles, and have something like 17% and my neighbor, not muscles... but a very tall big boned person, large frame... is only 22%.... cant be right!
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Old 09-14-2007, 11:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Two years ago when I was running 2 miles a day.....I sucked air big time....now that I do not run and put on 20lbs....I still suck air but not as bad....go figure!....kinda sad on my part!
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Old 09-20-2007, 02:48 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I think it's more about how often you dive and how well you are at controlling buoyancy than anything else.

Sure the rest of it matters but you get my drift......
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:24 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I will second and sayits a matter of how often you dive. I myself can see aslight difference on vacation when I dive my first vs. my last dive. I would think that doing cardio traning not weight training would also help
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Old 09-20-2007, 09:58 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I'm not sure if this is a muscle mass thing or not but I have noticed that as I have gotten into better shape I seem to be using more air. I've dropped a little over 30 pounds and have been doing a mix of upper body and cardio workouts. My guess is that when I exert energy, my muscles now require more "fuel" which consume more air and burns more calories. That's just a wild theory though.
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