Canon S90 housing

[DevilDiver]

Originally Posted by CompuDude

In some ways, the S90 is actually better than the G11. (faster lens, smaller size, a few other details) In other ways, not so much. They both use the same 10mp sensor, I believe.

I'm not happy with the Ikelite housing, surprising to say. Based on details on the site and a couple of exchanges with Ikelite, of course... it's not shipping until mid-late November. I may end up with the OEM housing... assuming they actually ship it one of these days.

Reef has the Ike housing for sale and no mention of it not shipping yet. On the Ike page it looks like they suggest optical slave sensors for the strobe sync. Is this right?

Shows a 67mm threaded port for lenses though, can you imagine a $500 fisheye conversion lens on the $300 housing?

Is there any way to take advantage of the control ring with the camera housed or was this just over looked?

The offering for the Ike housing for the G11 has the same port and W/A issues as the G10, unfortunatly....

[db83]

it is amazing how the uw housing for such a small camera like the s90 can still allow functionality and usability of the camera.

[DevilDiver]

Originally Posted by CompuDude

In some ways, the S90 is actually better than the G11. (faster lens, smaller size, a few other details) In other ways, not so much. .

Question on the lens......

The S90 lens @ F2.0 vs G11 @F2.8 will give you 1 stop (double the light) but for U/W where the foreground exposure is controlled by the strobes would this be a big factor?

Plus the G11 offers shutter speed up to 1/4000 vs the S90 at 1/1600 with the G11's macro focus range @ 1cm with 140mm vs the S90 @ 105MM.

I am not sure I could say the the S90 is better unless the wide angle (both 28mm) wet lens offering for the S90 housings could get you a true W/A view but this is still dependent on the housing and available lenses not the camera.

Not putting down either camera, I like features on both and the test shots I have seen so far have been impressive. I have actually been looking at these as options, not that I need to spend any $$ right now.

[db83]

I would probably say that the 2.0 vs. 2.8 would give the S90 an edge but one thing that really draws me to the G11 would be the ISO and EV dials on the camera. If the UW housing allows good access to these dials, it would make making adjustments underwater much easier. Also, the G11 can take RAW pics.

[CompuDude]

Originally Posted by Bill

What don't you like about the Ike housing ?

I don't like the price. But I could probably live with it.

I don't care for the clamshell design. But I could probably live with it.

I don't like that you can't see the o-ring all the way around. But I could probably live with it.

I don't like the positioning of the front ring control dial in the front of the camera, facing front. At least Canon's OEM housing faces to the side. But I could probably live with it.

I don't like the fact that you can't control the back control dial. But I could probably live with it. (and to be fair, Canon's OEM housing has the same issue)

And most importantly, for me:

I don't like that it's set up for 67mm threaded add-on lenses, and unlike it's predecessor you can't use AD bayonet-mount lenses with it (all my lenses are AD mount). I'll have to sell all my AD mount lenses and buy 67mm threaded ones instead... which are a huge PITA to connect underwater, by comparison. But I could probably live with it.

I could probably live with any of these little drawbacks. Except when you add them all together, it becomes a LOT harder to deal with.

I'm more inclined, at the moment, to try to find a used S80 to replace the one my wife broke, and continue using my current setup until things are fixed.

[DevilDiver]

DEMA 2009:
A Fisheye G11 prototype housing was on display ($1099, when it ships). The Fisheye G10 housing was Backscatter's most popular housing last year, and G11 looks like a great upgrade. The rear control dial and the housing latch have both been improved.

A Fisheye housing for the Canon S90 is coming soon ($600-700 retail).

[CompuDude]

Originally Posted by DevilDiver

DEMA 2009:
A Fisheye G11 prototype housing was on display ($1099, when it ships). The Fisheye G10 housing was Backscatter's most popular housing last year, and G11 looks like a great upgrade. The rear control dial and the housing latch have both been improved.

A Fisheye housing for the Canon S90 is coming soon ($600-700 retail).

EH?

Tell me more.

(ouch... but tell me more!)

Are you at Dema? Did a Fisheye rep tell you this? Are there photos or planned specs anywhere?

[Nemrod]

Originally Posted by db83

I would probably say that the 2.0 vs. 2.8 would give the S90 an edge but one thing that really draws me to the G11 would be the ISO and EV dials on the camera. If the UW housing allows good access to these dials, it would make making adjustments underwater much easier. Also, the G11 can take RAW pics.

The S90 is as RAW capable as the G11.

I too hear rumors through a secret source that Fisheye and even Patima may have a S90 housing. I don't know if it is true or just wishful thoughts. I believe it will be 67mm threaded which is very good as the larger diameter of the Inon 67mm rear lens element works better with lenses this size (S90) than the AD type. However, just as with my 67mm Ikelite, I can and do use AD lenses with my custom AD to 67mm adapter.

Inon 165AD fisheye lens with my adapter:







Since the S90 is more adaptable to wet lenses than the G11 and has a faster lens it only makes sense that it should displace the G11 as the premier P&S for underwater use. Just needs a decent housing and use of the rear control dial and of course, the port must be 67mm threaded.

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[bversteegh]

Originally Posted by DevilDiver

DEMA 2009:
A Fisheye G11 prototype housing was on display ($1099, when it ships). The Fisheye G10 housing was Backscatter's most popular housing last year, and G11 looks like a great upgrade. The rear control dial and the housing latch have both been improved.

A Fisheye housing for the Canon S90 is coming soon ($600-700 retail).

Hey buddy - what do you know about the fisheye housing? I ordered the camera and an Ike housing last week (the Ike housing is backordered) - but a Fisheye for 600 would be very appealing; they build really nice housings. Just might cancel that Ike order if this would work out. I was guessing a fisheye would be more like $1100 - just too much for a backup/second housing. But I could probably make 600-700 work out if it will be available before our trip in December. Getting ready to do a little surfing to see what I can find out. Hope all is well with you and the family.

[DevilDiver]

Originally Posted by bversteegh

Hey buddy - what do you know about the fisheye housing? I ordered the camera and an Ike housing last week (the Ike housing is backordered) - but a Fisheye for 600 would be very appealing; they build really nice housings. Just might cancel that Ike order if this would work out. I was guessing a fisheye would be more like $1100 - just too much for a backup/second housing. But I could probably make 600-700 work out if it will be available before our trip in December. Getting ready to do a little surfing to see what I can find out. Hope all is well with you and the family.

Hate to say it but it looks like the S90 housing won't be out before the first of the year. The G11 is top priority considering the G9 & G10 have been top sellers for all manufactures. I would contact Backscatter or Reef Photo direct to see if you can get a better timeline. Both sell Fisheye and should have the projected release for the S90 housing.

Have a great trip, I am looking to see what I will be able to get away with in 2010. I have not got anything booked yet but am hoping to get something in Febuary to start off the year....