Scuba Forum - Scuba Diving Forums and Discussion Board   Visit our ScubaToys.com Site!
Or Search ScubaToys.com for Gear!
 
Use the Search in the Navbar to search the forum.

Forum Photo Gallery Get Your Scuba Gear Here Scuba Classes & Diver Training Store Cam Scuba Videos
Go Back   Scuba Forum - Scuba Diving Forums and Discussion Board > Scuba and Dive Gear Forum > Mask / Snorkels / Fins
Register FAQLive Chat Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Mask / Snorkels / Fins Personal Gear questions and opinions.

Welcome to the Scuba Forum - Scuba Diving Forums and Discussion Board.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

My Bio-fin splitfin...split

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-13-2009, 03:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
rumblefish
Grouper
 
rumblefish's Avatar

Forum Stats
 
Join Date: 05/10/2008
Posts: 265

Profile Info
 
Location:
NYC, NY
Dives Logged: No Info Given
My Bio-fin splitfin...split

For those who don't preview the "other" board, I just posted about a major failure I experienced with my Apollo Bio-fin.

Here's the link to the other board.

My Bio-fin splitfin...split - ScubaBoard

And I'll copy the contents of the post here as well. Just feel like I should spread the info around and whatever else comes out of it.


Well, just got back from a great vacation in Thailand. Managed to get 17 dives in during my stay, including 11 in on a LOB in the Similan Islands.

During my first dive on the LOB, when donning the fin, the loop on the fin strap snapped. OK, I think...no problem, it happens. However, on the very last dive of the trip I had a major failure of my bio-fin. Upon surfacing on the last dive, a member in my dive group let me know that my biofin had split right down the middle. Well, duh, I'm thinking, they are split fins....and then I look down and notice that there really is a huge split down the middle of my fin. I really don't know how it split. I wasn't crouching on the seabed or knocking into anything.

Now, I'm a little shocked at this as I bought the fin in late 2006 and have only about 70 dives on it. I take real good care of my gear. I always rinse after dives and never dry or store my gear in direct sunlight. Due to it's heavy rubber construction, I thought that these would last for years.

I have to say, I love my biofins. But, this is something I never expected and has kind of given me pause if asked to recommend a fin. So I throw it out to the board, has anyone ever experienced something similar to this?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0022.jpg (587.1 KB, 36 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0026.jpg (482.7 KB, 28 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0029.jpg (534.8 KB, 34 views)
rumblefish is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 03:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
MSilvia
Shark
 
MSilvia's Avatar

Forum Stats
 
Join Date: 08/24/2007
Posts: 2,787

Profile Info
 
Location:
Cohasset, MA
Age: 37
Dives Logged: 101-500
I had the weld on one of my Mares Avantis let go where the "flex channel" meets the blade at the fin tip, but nothing catastrophic like that. That's nuts.
__________________
Matt Silvia
MSilvia is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 03:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
DevilDiver
Shark
 
DevilDiver's Avatar

Forum Stats
 
Join Date: 08/29/2007
Posts: 2,137

Profile Info
 
Location:
Corinth, Texas
Dives Logged: 101-500
My Photos: 18 Images
Hard to imagine what could of happened.... Those things seem to be indestructable.

What are your thoughts to how this could of happened?
__________________
DevilDiver
DevilDiver is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 04:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
CompuDude
Grand Master Spammer
Founding Member
 
CompuDude's Avatar

Forum Stats
 
Join Date: 07/11/2007
Posts: 7,680

Profile Info
 
Location:
Studio City, CA, USA
Dives Logged: 101-500
Actually, not precisely the same, but a friend of mine had the foot pocket tear on one of her bio-fins. I think Apollo finally replaced the fin, but it was quite an ordeal, and the shop she bought it from will no longer Apollo's products as a result of the hassles they went through. I think her fins were newer than 3 years old, though... I'd guess 1.5 years max.

As to the torn pull loop on the spring strap, however, I've seen that a number of times. There's only so much stress any rubber loop can take and putting fins on and off definitely falls into the category of "stressing the connection" at times, if you're not careful. It happened to mine on the second dive I wore them on, but since it was within a couple weeks of purchase, my LDS swapped it for me no questions.

I think Apollo generally makes things right, but they don't seem to make it as easy as they should. I agree it gives me some pause about recommending them, but they're still really good fins.
CompuDude is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 08:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
scubadiver888
Grouper
 
scubadiver888's Avatar

Forum Stats
 
Join Date: 04/26/2008
Posts: 846

Profile Info
 
Location:
Toronto, ON, Canada
Dives Logged: 51-100
My Photos: 1 Images
ack

This is a little disconcerting. I purchased a pair of bio-fins last year. They have been working great for me and totally lived up to everything I read about them. Never even considered how long the rubber would last.

I've had fins for 8 years. Still going strong. I do notice from your pictures that the rubber has a white film on it. Reminds me of when the wiper blades on my car wear out. Maybe just keeping them out of direct sunlight isn't enough.

I think I'm going to read up on rubber and see if there is anything else one can do to lengthen the life of a rubber product.

Do you dive in salt water or fresh water? So far my fins have only seen fresh water.

scubadiver888 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 08:42 PM   #6 (permalink)
tc_rain
Grouper
Founding Member
 
tc_rain's Avatar

Forum Stats
 
Join Date: 07/11/2007
Posts: 598

Profile Info
 
Location:
United States
I have had my Bios for about two years and just recently noticed the pull loop on the spring strap is torn almost identical to your posted picture. Hopefully the other pictures are not something I will be facing in the near future. Keep us posted on Apollo's reply so we can see if they will stand behind their product. I will be contacting them to see if I can order new pull straps. I still love the fin though.
tc_rain is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 08:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
scubadiver888
Grouper
 
scubadiver888's Avatar

Forum Stats
 
Join Date: 04/26/2008
Posts: 846

Profile Info
 
Location:
Toronto, ON, Canada
Dives Logged: 51-100
My Photos: 1 Images
Did a little reading on rubber. Sunlight and ozone are bad for it. Maybe your fins were exposed to ozone. Ozone can be generated from static electricity.

The film on the fins might actually be a wax they mix with rubber to help protect them from sunlight and ozone.
scubadiver888 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 09:15 PM   #8 (permalink)
Splitlip
Grand Master Spammer
Founding Member
 
Splitlip's Avatar

Forum Stats
 
Join Date: 07/09/2007
Posts: 5,471

Profile Info
 
Location:
Jupiter
Dives Logged: 500-1000
If we check out the SB thread, Apollo already told OP to call them about warranty.
__________________
Tim
Diving sucks. Don't try it.
Splitlip is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 10:05 PM   #9 (permalink)
scubadiver888
Grouper
 
scubadiver888's Avatar

Forum Stats
 
Join Date: 04/26/2008
Posts: 846

Profile Info
 
Location:
Toronto, ON, Canada
Dives Logged: 51-100
My Photos: 1 Images
Quote:
Originally Posted by Splitlip View Post
If we check out the SB thread, Apollo already told OP to call them about warranty.
Actually, they told them to call them and it is a one year warranty. I'd be interested to see what they do to help rumblefish.

Please keep us posted, here or SB, rumblefish.
scubadiver888 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 10:28 PM   #10 (permalink)
Diver Kat
Barracuda
 
Diver Kat's Avatar

Forum Stats
 
Join Date: 12/02/2007
Posts: 1,165

Profile Info
 
Location:
Cedar Park, Texas
Dives Logged: 101-500
Interesting .... we've had our bio-fins for over 300 dives - 6 years diving and a couple more before that just snorkeling. So far they're in pretty good condition, and even the straps look good. I'm always wondering how long they'll hold up, but they keep going strong.
__________________
COZ - Nov 27-Dec 4, '09 ~ COZ - Mar 7-16, '10 ~ COZ - Jun 4-12, '10!!
Diver Kat is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Go Back   Scuba Forum - Scuba Diving Forums and Discussion Board > Scuba and Dive Gear Forum > Mask / Snorkels / Fins

Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Bio Fin HT vs. Bio Fin Pro bullzi Apollo 9 07-12-2008 04:19 PM
Apollo Bio Fin XT with C-Strap Fin ScubaToys Larry New Product RSS 0 04-26-2008 08:46 PM
Apollo Bio-Fin Pro vs. Bio-Fin XT vs. ScubaPro TwinJets Geronimo Mask / Snorkels / Fins 4 10-17-2007 02:03 AM
Sf-8 Split Fin TheBlue1 Mask / Snorkels / Fins 1 09-13-2007 01:53 PM
Mares Raptor Fin vs Apollo Bio Fin Pro Cichlid Mask / Snorkels / Fins 1 08-16-2007 07:01 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin 3.6.72009 Copyright 2000-2007 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
Copyright ©2000-2008, ScubaToys Enterprises LLC
Site Maintained and Secured by Clan Solutions®, LLC.

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.0.0

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172