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Old 10-28-2007, 08:49 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Get a pair of Jet Fins.They should be short enough to fit your bag.

Of course you will need another pair of spring straps to fit them...........
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:58 PM   #32 (permalink)
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This is how i attach my steel springs. They sit nice and flat against the fin. They did loosen one or twice with the buckle moving forward into the larger hole. Never come off tho.

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Great Idea Aussie! We have plenty of those laying around and you have solved a problem for us ...thanks....
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:17 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I popped into Clark rubber one day. About 10 minutes latter I walked out with 6 newly minted, hand made rubber washers. After measuring the pin diameter, the chap made up a punch with an inner hole of 16mm in a 35mm washer.

Put the washers on the peg, put the straps over them, push down hard & pull the ss end into the correct position. The rubber is about 3.5mm thick & allows enough compression to keep the straps in place but still be reasonably easy to remove & replace.

I'v tried putting the straps on first, with the washers as retainers, but found this to be less secure.

These are on a set of Quattro Excels.
souds great... I would love to see a picture of it if you have the time to post it... I'm working on a solution to the problem and will post mine when I'm done. You figure that when you buy a darn product it whould just work as intended. Nope not with these.
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:18 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Yes so they can fit into the dive bag... The suitcase bags that I have seen will not accomodate my mares quatros with the spring straps connected. Not easily anyway. I also placed my original rubber straps that came with my mares in my save a dive kit so I can switch then out if under the rare off chance that something happens with the tilos and i'm on vacation. So, yes I would like to have my straps still remove withou having to cut off a zip tie. I have a couple of possible ideas on paper but I need to find about 20 ga. Stainless steel rod. Home depot does not have it. They only have copper, anodized and galvanized. I will have to look on mcmastercarr... to get what I need to complete whay I'm doing. I may be able to achieve what I'm doing with a simple carabineer... we'll see!
I think you're overthinking this, unless I'm the one missing something.

My XL Jets don't fit well into the plastic tub I usually toss my gear into for beach dives... the spring straps, as you describe, are a hair too long.

So I stuffed the straps into the foot pocket. Problem solved.
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:46 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Great Idea Aussie! We have plenty of those laying around and you have solved a problem for us ...thanks....
Thanks for sharing! Unfortunately Aussie can't take full credit as Manta Straps come with... Drumroll... Zip Ties!

Zip ties are the Cat's meow for divers.
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These straps would not be my choice for 2 reasons:
1)The buckle can come off the post.I prefer straps where wire wraps around the post. (Between my wife and myself we have both types)
2)None of the plastic junk is needed. Why take a piece of gear that is a masterpiece of minimalism then add stuff to it ?

I am sure these will work just fine though.
Manta supplies zip ties to ensure that the buckle does not work loose. However once they are on, the pressure on the spring will keep the fin on regardless unless the strap is too long.

The plastic junk is hardly a pitfall IMO. Most DIY'ers enclose the spring with a rubber hose. Having a pull ring is not going to be an entanglement hazard for most divers I find that the flat backed rubber covering is slightly more comfortable vs. the round rubber covering on my Manta's, but that is nit picking.
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Yes so they can fit into the dive bag... The suitcase bags that I have seen will not accomodate my mares quatros with the spring straps connected. Not easily anyway. I also placed my original rubber straps that came with my mares in my save a dive kit so I can switch then out if under the rare off chance that something happens with the tilos and i'm on vacation. So, yes I would like to have my straps still remove withou having to cut off a zip tie. I have a couple of possible ideas on paper but I need to find about 20 ga. Stainless steel rod. Home depot does not have it. They only have copper, anodized and galvanized. I will have to look on mcmastercarr... to get what I need to complete whay I'm doing. I may be able to achieve what I'm doing with a simple carabineer... we'll see!
I think you're overthinking this, unless I'm the one missing something.

My XL Jets don't fit well into the plastic tub I usually toss my gear into for beach dives... the spring straps, as you describe, are a hair too long.

So I stuffed the straps into the foot pocket. Problem solved.
I just want to be able to lock the strap on the pin and still have them be removable. thats all. I wish they came that way already but I overlooked that fact.
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Yes so they can fit into the dive bag... The suitcase bags that I have seen will not accomodate my mares quatros with the spring straps connected. Not easily anyway. I also placed my original rubber straps that came with my mares in my save a dive kit so I can switch then out if under the rare off chance that something happens with the tilos and i'm on vacation. So, yes I would like to have my straps still remove withou having to cut off a zip tie. I have a couple of possible ideas on paper but I need to find about 20 ga. Stainless steel rod. Home depot does not have it. They only have copper, anodized and galvanized. I will have to look on mcmastercarr... to get what I need to complete whay I'm doing. I may be able to achieve what I'm doing with a simple carabineer... we'll see!
I think you're overthinking this, unless I'm the one missing something.

My XL Jets don't fit well into the plastic tub I usually toss my gear into for beach dives... the spring straps, as you describe, are a hair too long.

So I stuffed the straps into the foot pocket. Problem solved.
I just want to be able to lock the strap on the pin and still have them be removable. thats all. I wish they came that way already but I overlooked that fact.
All right, I'll buy that, but why do you need to remove them? None of my fins with spring straps (Thee total: BioFin XT-C, Jetfin with EZ Spring Straps, and OMS SlipStreams with ScubaPro spring straps) are removeable, and I've never once wished I could remove them, aside from needing to flip the straps to the inside of the foot pocket when my Jets go into the plastic tub.
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I happen to think that the tubing that covers the spring in one monolythic piece IS far superior to others... But its still NOT the same. It just isn't. sorry!
Don't be sorry for having an opinion.

But the statement in bold above might carry more weight if you said why the Tilos straps are "Far Superior to others".

I thought having the pulls was something I'd miss when I got the Manta's, but not at all. It's easy to get ones fingers under the rubber without the pull tab.

I own and have dove a number of different makes of spring straps including friends DIY straps, and from a diving, doffing, and donning perspective, they all dive alike and serve the same function so what am I missing?
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Yes so they can fit into the dive bag... The suitcase bags that I have seen will not accomodate my mares quatros with the spring straps connected. Not easily anyway. I also placed my original rubber straps that came with my mares in my save a dive kit so I can switch then out if under the rare off chance that something happens with the tilos and i'm on vacation. So, yes I would like to have my straps still remove withou having to cut off a zip tie. I have a couple of possible ideas on paper but I need to find about 20 ga. Stainless steel rod. Home depot does not have it. They only have copper, anodized and galvanized. I will have to look on mcmastercarr... to get what I need to complete whay I'm doing. I may be able to achieve what I'm doing with a simple carabineer... we'll see!
I think you're overthinking this, unless I'm the one missing something.

My XL Jets don't fit well into the plastic tub I usually toss my gear into for beach dives... the spring straps, as you describe, are a hair too long.

So I stuffed the straps into the foot pocket. Problem solved.
I just want to be able to lock the strap on the pin and still have them be removable. thats all. I wish they came that way already but I overlooked that fact.
All right, I'll buy that, but why do you need to remove them? None of my fins with spring straps (Thee total: BioFin XT-C, Jetfin with EZ Spring Straps, and OMS SlipStreams with ScubaPro spring straps) are removeable, and I've never once wished I could remove them, aside from needing to flip the straps to the inside of the foot pocket when my Jets go into the plastic tub.
Well, I think you answered your question. You too have a need to remove the fins but choose instead to tck it into the foot even if for that one time when you place your fins in the tub... right?

and you might be right. In the end I may never remove them... who knows but its nice if they work as intended

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