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Yoke to DIN Conversion - Any difference than just getting DIN in the first place?

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Old 07-04-2008, 12:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Yoke to DIN Conversion - Any difference than just getting DIN in the first place?

I ordered the Atomic ST1 regulator with DIN first stage but ended up with a yoke first stage for myriad of issues including the fact that I need the reg this weekend. If I decide to covert to DIN, are there any differences than if I had gotten the DIN first stage in the first place instead of a conversion?

I'm concerned that there is either a performance issue of that there is a size of the first stage issue.

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Old 07-04-2008, 12:58 AM   #2 (permalink)
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There shouldn't be any problem with converting your yoke first stage to DIN in the future. No difference in performance. The first and second stages should function equally well with either attachment fitting. AFAIK, the newly converted DIN reg should be identical to one that was initially DIN-configured.

FWIW, I don't think you should be in any rush to convert your reg to DIN. It really only makes sense if you plan to be using DIN-valve tanks. Many newer HP steel tanks (and also AL tanks) now come with a convertible DIN/yoke tank valve that will work nicely with either a DIN or yoke-style reg.

After you convert to DIN, you may encounter a situation in which you must use a yoke-valve tank. That's when you'll whip out your handy-dandy DIN-to-yoke adapter. This adapter is what might make the first stage bump up against the back of your head. Since I own DIN tanks and use them for all of my local diving, I only run into this situation when I go on a dive vacation.

I prefer the DIN attachment over the yoke because I feel that it's more secure. Nevertheless, in my experience, both styles of connection have proven to be reliable.

Hope this info helps...
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Old 07-04-2008, 01:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
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There's no difference between the two regs other than the actual attachment. Unscrew one fitting, flip a sinter filter, screw in the other, and your reg will be 100% identical to one that was the other format in the box.
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Old 07-04-2008, 10:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks guys for the replies!

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FWIW, I don't think you should be in any rush to convert your reg to DIN. It really only makes sense if you plan to be using DIN-valve tanks. Many newer HP steel tanks (and also AL tanks) now come with a convertible DIN/yoke tank valve that will work nicely with either a DIN or yoke-style reg.
I knew someone might say that... I purchased a Poseidon DIN to Yoke adapter from ST, which they price matched and I also applied my $10 gift cert (for my 10th posts ) so I could keep in my dive bag in those instances whereby the tanks are Yoke. Well, now that my Atomic ST1 first stage is Yoke (couldn't wait for the DIN to arrive at LDS), I'm not sure whether I should keep the adapter or return it. Oh well, it's not like the adapter is a hundred dollar item and it may prove useful in the future.

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Personal preference...I prefer din. Safety and peace of mind!
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Thanks guys for the replies!

I knew someone might say that... I purchased a Poseidon DIN to Yoke adapter from ST, which they price matched and I also applied my $10 gift cert (for my 10th posts ) so I could keep in my dive bag in those instances whereby the tanks are Yoke. Well, now that my Atomic ST1 first stage is Yoke (couldn't wait for the DIN to arrive at LDS), I'm not sure whether I should keep the adapter or return it. Oh well, it's not like the adapter is a hundred dollar item and it may prove useful in the future.

snoballz,

Just curious...What kind of tanks are you using now? Do you own them? Or are you renting? Most of the LDSs around here only rent the older AL80s with a yoke valve.
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Just curious...What kind of tanks are you using now? Do you own them? Or are you renting? Most of the LDSs around here only rent the older AL80s with a yoke valve.
At the moment just renting in New York and Caribbean so no real issues with the yoke first stage. However, I'd like to get more into tech and own my own tanks... not in the near future though... just eventually.

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All my tanks and regs are DIN but I keep a "DIN to yoke" adapter in my regulator bag for those "just in case" times when I might have to use a tank with a K valve.

I also have the "A" mount (yoke) that came off of my Atomic Z1 before I converted it to DIN. If a am going on a dive trip (to somewhere like Cozumel) where I know all of the tanks will have K valves I switch it back to yoke for the trip, and then re-install the DIN mount when I get back home. It's an easy conversion, and not messing with an adapter when on vacation save some time on the dive boat.
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Just curious...What kind of tanks are you using now? Do you own them? Or are you renting? Most of the LDSs around here only rent the older AL80s with a yoke valve.
At the moment just renting in New York and Caribbean so no real issues with the yoke first stage. However, I'd like to get more into tech and own my own tanks... not in the near future though... just eventually.

Heck. Stick with the yoke regs for now. Then, when you decide to go the tech route, switch to a long hose primary/bungeed secondary and convert to DIN.

Enjoy the reg.
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