Lp ports

[Swanny]

Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50

So basically you just have an extra unconnected LP hose when you dive?

I wondered the same thing myself. To me, that seems like it might cause more problems than it could possibly solve. If there were ever a situation where I couldn't inflate one with my mouth, I would rather just disconnect the hose from my inflator for a couple of seconds and use that to inflate the safety sausage.

But then again, I am a minimalist who subscribes to the Occam's razor approach to diving (ie. all other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best.)

[CompuDude]

Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50

So basically you just have an extra unconnected LP hose when you dive?

I don't usually use those type of bags, but the few times I have (and the way others I've seen do it) is you just disconnect your drysuit hose for a moment and then reconnect it. If you don't have a drysuit, you could do the same with your BC's inflator hose. Or, yes, you could dive with an extra, unconnected LP hose. I'm not sure how I feel about that latter option, however, although I know people do it.

[Splitlip]

Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50

So basically you just have an extra unconnected LP hose when you dive?

Yup.
You can disconnect your BC inflator or DS inflator. I never considered disconnecting the BC inflator. I don't use a drysuit.
Couple years ago I posted on Scubaboard about using a designated LP hose for one of these bags. Mixed responses, but for the most part, not well received.
Now, I am seeing divers using them. I have not yet, but have a small Halcyon bag I inflate orally and an LP hose I use to pump up tires (on another 1st stage lol). I'm giving it a shot next dive.
If I like it, I'll pick up a larger Halcyon bag.

[Splitlip]

Originally Posted by Swanny

I wondered the same thing myself. To me, that seems like it might cause more problems than it could possibly solve. If there were ever a situation where I couldn't inflate one with my mouth, I would rather just disconnect the hose from my inflator for a couple of seconds and use that to inflate the safety sausage.

But then again, I am a minimalist who subscribes to the Occam's razor approach to diving (ie. all other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best.)

Yes but the good Friar is long dead .

Now mind you I haven't been doing this (inflating with a designated hose), but I am giving it a shot. I won't disconnect my BC inflator. Here where I dive things can happen pretty quickly and reconnecting can be difficult when the regs are pressurized.
Here too, we often have to inflate a very large marker in a ripping current. It can be challanging to say the least. If the designated inflator makes it easier, safer, more efficient..is that a bad thing?

I don't use a conventional octo. I normally dive a necklaced alternate so that means I can inflate with my primary or inflate by exhaling into the bag. Both methods are challenging in some environments. I have also used an octo inflator (quite successfully). Now my Octo inflator is off my rig and my 5ft primary is back on as is my necklace.

My only decision now is should I clip the hose off on the left by my SPG or the right by my reel/spool. (I am not DIR)

I too am pretty much a minimalist. Don't know that an additional hose is a deal breaker.

[in_cavediver]

Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50

ah.

Explains why... Dry suit in FL= instant hyperthermia

An then he two HP ports would be a computer and SPG?

I wouldn't say that. I done lots of dives in Florida in a drysuit. (well over 100)

Its all about the undergarments and water temps.

[Swanny]

Originally Posted by Splitlip

Yes but the good Friar is long dead .

Now mind you I haven't been doing this (inflating with a designated hose), but I am giving it a shot. I won't disconnect my BC inflator. Here where I dive things can happen pretty quickly and reconnecting can be difficult when the regs are pressurized.
Here too, we often have to inflate a very large marker in a ripping current. It can be challanging to say the least. If the designated inflator makes it easier, safer, more efficient..is that a bad thing?

I don't use a conventional octo. I normally dive a necklaced alternate so that means I can inflate with my primary or inflate by exhaling into the bag. Both methods are challenging in some environments. I have also used an octo inflator (quite succesfully). Now my Octo inflator is off my rig and my 5ft primary is back on as is my necklace.

My only decision now is should I clip the hose off on the left by my SPG or the right by my reel/spool. (I am not DIR)

I too am pretty much a minimalist. Don't know that an additional hose is a deal breaker.

I get where you are coming from and dive a similar set-up with the octo reg on a necklace. However, one of the skills taught in my OW certification class was to remove the BC inflator hose and reattach it at depth. As a result, it doesn't really bother me to remove it.

Moot point anyway -- my safety sausage doesn't have one of those type of inflators.

[Splitlip]

Just my small one does. I inflate it oraly though. I did 6 dives this week off Palm Beach (not even Jupiter) and every one there were issues with a DSMB.
The issue with my big one, is to inflate it fully, I really need to shoot it from 70ft or so. If I shoot it shallower, it does not fill completely (without putting myself at risk IMO). I get a fat nipple on the surface. Sometimes more. The little one which I normally shoot from 30 to 40 I decided is just too small.
So, I'll see how this works and come back.

[SlvrDragon50]

I suppose I could just orally inflate.. Then again, I dont have an SMB yet anyways

[Splitlip]

OK.
So today I had about 800# left in one of my bottles. My buddy and I went over to the BHB (shore dive) to play with our sausages.
I picked up a Manta reel (normally I am a spool guy). The Manta is less likely to birdnest because even when it is released there is tension on the spool.
My last few dives have been with my 5ft primary and necklaced secondary and a 12-13" Halcyon corrugated hose on my wing. So dumping air into an open bottom bag from my inflator was not comfortable.
Anyway, I added a 26"? inflator hose to my 1st stage with a dive alert on the end and clipped it off by my reel on my right hip. We finned out to about 18 to 20 ft of water and hung out.
When I hit 500psi, I pulled out my 1 meter closed circuit Halcyon tube and very easily inflated the bag with the Dive Alert inflator on the end of the hose.
Was briefly concerned because of the tug on the reel. Like I said there is a built in drag so it does not free spool.
But the bag went and all was good. I only carry 2 # on my belt which I thought about loosing, but I think I need every bit of it with a near empty cylinder shooting with this reel. So it will stay.
Mark, if you are reading this, my buddy was using the same marker you have. It is quite adequate for most Palm Beach Diving if you shoot fairly close to the boat. I watched it from the surface pop up like a polaris missle and easily put more than 3 ft of fat material up there. (he inflates from his AirII)
I have a bigger OMS bag for diving further north. I am going to replace that shortly with a larger Halcyon closed circuit bag. Using the QD inflator and Manta reel was very slick. The extra hose and extra weight not a big deal.

Edit: note: I shortend my necklace and am a liitle more able to deal with the 5ft hose in that location. Only thing with the shortened necklace is my secondary tugs. I have ordered a Miflex hose which based on the reports here should solve that issue. Thanks to all for their input.