DIN or Yoke?

[Judestudio]

Is there a reason why rental tanks tend to be yoke?

[Joew]

Originally Posted by Judestudio

Is there a reason why rental tanks tend to be yoke?

Not sure. I think they've been around longer and it's a little quicker to set up/break down yoke regs. I think that's a small plus for DMs that have to set up a dozen sets of gear everyday.

[CompuDude]

Originally Posted by Judestudio

Is there a reason why rental tanks tend to be yoke?

Yoke has been around longer, so there's a larger installed base, and that's what the rentals cater to.

Also, aluminum tanks aren't high pressure enough to actually require yoke (unlike many HP tanks). DIN is definitely the superior connection, though. All of my tanks are DIN (or convertable to DIN via Thermo Pro valves).

When I travel for a a short trip I just bring my yoke adapter (actually I always have it, it lives in my reg bag). For a longer trip I'll actually convert my first stage back to Yoke (I have the original kit still), so I don't have to mess with the converter.

[mwhities]

DIN first stage with a yoke adapter. That's what I carry around.

Michael

[BSea]

Originally Posted by Judestudio

Is there a reason why rental tanks tend to be yoke?

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<DIV>Yes $$$$$$$. If you were a dive operator, would you spend the extra $5 or so for each of your tanks to be din. Even if they were the convertable valve, you know you would be constantly replacing inserts.</DIV>
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<DIV>Plus, look at the average customer. They took their OW &amp; bought a package deal, and use it for their dive vacation and a few lake dives a year. If they have a tank, the color is "Purple Passion", or "Cranberry", or maybe even yellow (just kidding mwhities), and definetly yoke. The dive shop isn't going to sell them a din regulator when most of their other renting customers use yoke.</DIV>
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<DIV>However, I have found that a few dive operations in the Keys have a few steel din tanks. Just be sure &amp; ask early because it was 1st come 1st served when we went.</DIV>
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<DIV>Oh, and just so you know the "Robin Egg Blue" tanks in my avitar belong to a friend. REALLY!!</DIV></DIV>

[mwhities]

Originally Posted by BSea

If they have a tank, the color is "Purple Passion", or "Cranberry", or maybe even yellow (just kidding mwhities), and definetly yoke.

OKAY! That's IT! Heads are about to start rolling!

Michael

[downunder]

This annoys me SOOOOO much - that most rental tanks use yoke. Then, you have to rely on their maint. of the O ring vs. renting a DIN tank, where the O ring is on YOUR reg! I bought DIN and like it for that reason - when I can rent a DIN tank, I feel just a little better that the seal is good (although, I have to admit - I know real quickly if there is a problem by either hearing it or my buddy seeing bubbles....) And, with the inexpensive converter - it is universal.
<DIV>The answer to why most rental tanks are yoke is because most reg sets are yoke.... any why is that??? Because most rental tanks are yoke! Yeah - sometimes the standard becomes not best solution, but the most 'available'... who remembers the Beta vs. VHS wars. Beta was way better, but VHS was more accessable!</DIV>

[Joew]

Originally Posted by Judestudio

Is there a reason why rental tanks tend to be yoke?

In the time I've spent working on dive boats in Hawai'i I've only noticed a handfull of customers using DIN regs with yoke adapters. I don't know why I didn't think of this in my previous response, but the vast majority of people who dive here use yoke regs, so the shop needs to accomidate them. Keep in mind that most the people who come here are "vacation divers" that only dive in Hawai'i, the Caribbean, etc. where yoke is the norm.

[comet24]

If you get a DIN make sure you have a yoke adopter. If you travel you will likely find the tanks are yoke style.

[Judestudio]

When I was doing my OW class, my instructor told us "yoke is the norm, the way to go", and I always had this idea at the back of my mind people that use DIN are a bunch of strange minority, who somehow like to be different. They didn't even go into explaining what a DIN is, but went into detail how to use a yoke. How sad will it be if I haven't done my own research here?!

I just bought a set of regs in DIN and asked the shop to throw in a yoke adapter, now I'm one happy diver [img]smileys/smiley17.gif[/img]