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Bush to lift offshore drilling ban

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This is great and should have been done long ago! 40 46.51%
This is the wrong thing to do! 9 10.47%
This good for the economy but bad for the environment. 12 13.95%
This will not make a difference. 16 18.60%
We are still headed in the wrong direction. 30 34.88%
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Old 07-18-2008, 04:33 PM   #221 (permalink)
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No, I'm saying give it time.

Also, in the articles I posted above, they gave a perfectly fine reason for causation.

Plus, this ^ does not relate to offshore drilling whatsoever.

You never responded to the fact that off shore drilling would last only 8-10 years. If your "trillion barrels of oil" will only last us 8-10 years, then we are in a much larger problem.

really where are you getting these numbers that off shore drilling will only last 8-10 years?

are they coming from geologist with petroleum exploration expertise, or any source with direct expertise in the oil industry? Or are you getting the numbers from source opposed to any expansion of oil resources who thusly would be biased?
Quite the opposite.. Someone who is avid for the drilling of oil..BUSH

I wouldn't say he is the smartest man in the world... If he did make up a number (which i doubt, he probably got it from some oil researcher that he owns), you really have to wonder why he wouldn't make a number larger than 10.

Also, I never said we should make a direct transition. Nothing happened overnight (anything of this size anyways).

Heres a question for you, and answer it honestly. Did you think about hydrogen cars back when the price was 1.25/a gallon or did you simply continue your day?

I highly doubt ANYONE other than the people doing the research was thinking about an alternative fuel source.
Number one you missed my point. besides I think we all will agree the you should never trust any numbers from any politician.

lets assume that 10 years is right that this one field could supply 10 years of the worlds oil demand... lets think about that for a second... are we going to sell that oil to Asia which is where the largest increase in consumption is? the simple answer is no we would never do that. Why? because that is where the oil from Alaska goes, for the simple reason of transport cost. That oil would be for the Americas. thus assuming the 10 year numbers, That one field would last 30 or more years roughly. this doe not even begin to take into account the other fields of similar sizes such as the one off of Brazil.
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Old 07-18-2008, 04:39 PM   #222 (permalink)
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Quite the opposite.. Someone who is avid for the drilling of oil..BUSH
You're obviously a rabid Bush-hater.

GWB is not "avid for the drilling of oil", Bloke. He, too, is looking for a comprehensive solution, which includes BOTH drilling AND research on alternative energy.

Question: Which president has spent more money on the alternative energy development than any other president in history?

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Do you mean back in the 1990s when the Republican Congress passed legislation to drill in ANWR, which would be having a huge positive impact on gas prices today, but President Clinton vetoed it because 'it would take 10 to 12 years before we'd see any oil from there"?
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Old 07-18-2008, 04:58 PM   #223 (permalink)
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Old 07-18-2008, 05:10 PM   #224 (permalink)
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We're too sappy for that. When their's runs out and they need us, we'll give it to them for free. Unless we pay them to take it.
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Do you seriously think oil companies are willing to hoard the oil to the us? If another country will pay more, then oil company will sell it to them. They have no incentive to keep the oil in the US.

I stole that from some random guy so I won't me able to back it well :P
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Do you seriously think oil companies are willing to hoard the oil to the us? If another country will pay more, then oil company will sell it to them. They have no incentive to keep the oil in the US.

I stole that from some random guy so I won't me able to back it well :P

Assuming that it costs more in transportation costs, yes. Remember Oil tankers run on Crude oil. the farther they go, the more they literally burn up the profits.
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i still don't see what the big deal about ANWR is. they want to drill in 0.2% of the largest wildlife reserve in the united states... and it happens to be a flat wasteland. oh well. drill away.

everyone in alaska is all for the drilling, just all the liberals down here in the lower 48 that are against it.

also, offshore oil rigs form giant artificial reefs which can make for some nice diving (after they're abandoned i assume).
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Actually there will be fewer hurricanes but more intense hurricanes.
There is absolutey zero scientific proof of this, only unsubstantiated claims.

Again, if you want to talk GW, lets start a different thread and keep this one on the oil issue.
The only reason I ask is there is more reason than just lowering fuel costs to move away from carbon based fuels, if you believe Global Warming is in aprt caused by them. Now it is our existence, not just our economy at stake.
The only thing human that threatens human existence is over population.
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i still don't see what the big deal about ANWR is. they want to drill in 0.2% of the largest wildlife reserve in the united states... and it happens to be a flat wasteland. oh well. drill away.

everyone in alaska is all for the drilling, just all the liberals down here in the lower 48 that are against it.

also, offshore oil rigs form giant artificial reefs which can make for some nice diving (after they're abandoned i assume).
They don't have to be abandoned, I have been diving working rigs for 40 years.
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Bring on the rigs!!! I live on the coast of Florida and its about time someone stepped up and made this move. Next up....Alaska!!!
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