Bush to lift offshore drilling ban

[OH-JJ]

Originally Posted by Grizbear98

I don't understand how destroying the environment to get a natural resource that is diminishing, can be replaced by newer technologies, and the cost will not be reflected for 7 years and will STILL be high, helps us at all

perhaps you can elaborate your straw man argument alittle.

[ReefHound]

Originally Posted by Grizbear98

I don't understand how destroying the environment to get a natural resource that is diminishing, can be replaced by newer technologies, and the cost will not be reflected for 7 years and will STILL be high, helps us at all

That's because all of your premises are incorrect.

[aggie99]

Originally Posted by OH-JJ

Sorry that is completely incorrect.

from that time the oil companies say go, they will be pumping oil in less than six months.

there will be a short delay while they double the crane capsity of some of the rigs. and they will be recalling the drill ships that are currently loaned out drilling core samples.

but within the year there will be many wells pumping oil.

but the even faster result will be OPEC will be scared and they inturn will drop there prices.

I am only quoting a CNN article:

Experts say offshore oil drilling would not have an immediate impact on oil prices because oil exploration takes years.

"If we were to drill today, realistically speaking, we should not expect a barrel of oil coming out of this new resource for three years, maybe even five years, so let's not kid ourselves," said Fadel Gheit, oil and gas analyst with Oppenheimer & Co. Equity Capital Markets Division.

Bush lifts executive ban on offshore oil drilling - CNN.com

[BuzzF117]

If there was a way to get oil from baby seals somebody would figure out how to make more baby seals thus more oil.

Ok we can launch an object the size of a golfcart send it across our solar system and have it land on another planet then communicate with it and even in some instances repair it but we don't have the technology to safely and efficiently drill for oil? That is what some poeple will try to tell you.

Drill baby Drill and oh yeah im all for doubling the size of the Alaskan pipeline since the carribou population has exploded since the builiding of the pipeline we can all start eating carribou.

[georoc01]

Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50

That's why you get a real hybrid like the Prius. There are electric cars right now that already get 100+ mpg such as the Tesla but those are much more expensive than hybrids. I know someone in CA( I think) converts cars into electric for 10k

Well, when they start making a Prius with AWD and enough HP to drive effectively at 10,000 feet, I am all for it! I know there is a Lexus RX-400 out there that is, but doesn't get much better gas mileage than the Ford Escape Hybrid.

[RoyN]

Those oil companies donating money for alternate fuel seems like they're just putting one penny in the donation box for the poor.

[georoc01]

Originally Posted by aggie99

I am only quoting a CNN article:

Experts say offshore oil drilling would not have an immediate impact on oil prices because oil exploration takes years.

"If we were to drill today, realistically speaking, we should not expect a barrel of oil coming out of this new resource for three years, maybe even five years, so let's not kid ourselves," said Fadel Gheit, oil and gas analyst with Oppenheimer & Co. Equity Capital Markets Division.

Bush lifts executive ban on offshore oil drilling - CNN.com

But what you are trying to impact is the futures market which is impacted by the scarcity of foreign production. Just the potential of additional domestic production will take some of the escalation out of the commodities market.

You are correct that it would take a minimum of 3 years for the oil we know about say off the coast of Virginia. Production could be increased off the California coast even faster where the infrastructure is already out there, and could be connected through the use of tie backs.

[BuzzF117]

I hear all the talk of hybrids but nobody can answer my question about disposing of the batts im thinking the disposal cost of huge banks of lithium batts would be brutal on the consumer!!! I know as it is now you have to pay a fee for disposing of your lead acid batt when you dispose of it.

[aggie99]

Originally Posted by OH-JJ

perhaps you can elaborate your straw man argument alittle.

Watch the insults, it is the fastest way to kill a good debate and end this thread.

[OH-JJ]

Originally Posted by aggie99

Watch the insults, it is the fastest way to kill a good debate and end this thread.

no insult just calling out a strawman argument.