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    DIN or Yoke in Egypt?

    Hi
    If any has dived..sharm, hurgada or marsa alam....What is the majority of tank valves used there as I (as most of you) would be renting tanks.
    Thanks in advance
    SJB

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    I dove there about a million years ago (or maybe 25) and it was DIN back then...

    I once saved a man in Wichita just to watch him dive...(inventor)

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    Based on its proximity to Europe I'm going to guess that it's DIN. If you have a yoke first stage they make adapters that can make a DIN valve usable with yoke, but not the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlane View Post
    Based on its proximity to Europe I'm going to guess that it's DIN. If you have a yoke first stage they make adapters that can make a DIN valve usable with yoke, but not the other way around.
    Depends on whether it's a 300 bar DIN valve or a 200 bar valve. 200 Bar can be converted (usually), 300 bar cannot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CompuDude View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vlane View Post
    Based on its proximity to Europe I'm going to guess that it's DIN. If you have a yoke first stage they make adapters that can make a DIN valve usable with yoke, but not the other way around.
    Depends on whether it's a 300 bar DIN valve or a 200 bar valve. 200 Bar can be converted (usually), 300 bar cannot.
    ...... There's different kinds of DIN valves too? what's the difference? can you tell just by looking? I wish I knew this when buying my regulator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by db83 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CompuDude View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vlane View Post
    Based on its proximity to Europe I'm going to guess that it's DIN. If you have a yoke first stage they make adapters that can make a DIN valve usable with yoke, but not the other way around.
    Depends on whether it's a 300 bar DIN valve or a 200 bar valve. 200 Bar can be converted (usually), 300 bar cannot.
    ...... There's different kinds of DIN valves too? what's the difference? can you tell just by looking? I wish I knew this when buying my regulator.
    Yes, and yes.

    300 bar DIN valves are longer than 200 bar DIN valves... the threaded tube is literally longer. All regs sold today are 300 bar, meaning they have a long threaded tube that will reach the back of a 300 bar valve and seal properly. They'll also reach the back of a 200 bar DIN valve and seal properly... with fewer turns needed to reach the back, and a little more threads exposed. No biggie.

    You can see the difference just by looking, although unless you're familiar it may not be obvious at a glance. Outside of Europe, very few of the old 200 bar DIN regs are still floating around. (The 200 bar regs are shorter, and would not reach the back of the deeper 300 bar valve, and thus will not seal.)

    Suffice to say if you have DIN regs made in the past 15 years or so, they're 300 bar and they'll work with anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CompuDude View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by db83 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CompuDude View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vlane View Post
    Based on its proximity to Europe I'm going to guess that it's DIN. If you have a yoke first stage they make adapters that can make a DIN valve usable with yoke, but not the other way around.
    Depends on whether it's a 300 bar DIN valve or a 200 bar valve. 200 Bar can be converted (usually), 300 bar cannot.
    ...... There's different kinds of DIN valves too? what's the difference? can you tell just by looking? I wish I knew this when buying my regulator.
    Yes, and yes.

    300 bar DIN valves are longer than 200 bar DIN valves... the threaded tube is literally longer. All regs sold today are 300 bar, meaning they have a long threaded tube that will reach the back of a 300 bar valve and seal properly. They'll also reach the back of a 200 bar DIN valve and seal properly... with fewer turns needed to reach the back, and a little more threads exposed. No biggie.

    You can see the difference just by looking, although unless you're familiar it may not be obvious at a glance. Outside of Europe, very few of the old 200 bar DIN regs are still floating around. (The 200 bar regs are shorter, and would not reach the back of the deeper 300 bar valve, and thus will not seal.)

    Suffice to say if you have DIN regs made in the past 15 years or so, they're 300 bar and they'll work with anything.
    oh, ok. whew. Bought my regulator a few years ago and opted for the DIN version. and then I bought a converter.

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    Thanks for catching me on that Compu. I've heard of DIN converters but didn't realize they didn't realize a 300 bar could not. I'll leave the can of worms on the 300 vs. 200 bar closed though haha.

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    hmm....... well, I have a DIN with a converter for it... but it's pretty new so is it a 300 bar with a converter for it? If not, is it possible I bought a 200 bar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by db83 View Post
    hmm....... well, I have a DIN with a converter for it... but it's pretty new so is it a 300 bar with a converter for it? If not, is it possible I bought a 200 bar?
    Don't mix the terminology up (it's all the same terminology, so it gets stupidly confusing to try to type it out).

    200 bar DIN valve, with adapter (my buddies all refer to this adapter as the "Donut") to allow a yoke valve to be used on it instead of DIN (the adapter converts the VALVE, not the reg). This valve can be dove with pretty much any reg ever made (yoke, with adapter in the valve, 200 bar DIN, 300 bar DIN):



    300 bar DIN valve. A little hard to see but can you tell how much deeper the hole goes in? This type of valve can't be converted... you need 300 bar DIN regs to dive it. No other regs will work.



    This is a "Yoke adapter". It spins onto a DIN regulator, and lets you connect your DIN regulator to a standard Yoke valve on a tank. Technically you could use this adapter AND the donut and attach DIN regs to a 200 bar DIN tank as if it were an all-Yoke system... but that would be silly:



    And finally, this is a Yoke adapter for DIN valves. This is for above-water-use only, solely for filling DIN tanks from fill whips that only have Yoke connectors on them. Two common types are pictured:



    So there are several types of adapters/converters for very different (yet similar) applications.... and ALL of them have similar names! Argh!

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