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    the cove

    I was watching ice road trucker and when it went off my tv was on a channel called green . A show called the cove is on and I guess it is about the japanese killing dolphines by the truck load.

    I was wondering if anyone else knew about this or anything about it?

    not much for these types of shows but it seems to have a class of people above those on say whale wars.

    SaveJapanDolphins.org | Ending dolphin slaughter in Taiji

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    its been out for a long time actually...

    they just recently started showing it in theatres in Japan actually... I get almost daily updates from them about the things they are doing - it sounds like they are really starting to matter, at least a little...

    here's a copy of the latest e-mail I got from them:

    Posted By: Fonda Berosini
    To: Members in "The Cove" - Save Japan Dolphins
    Your name delivered to the US Embassy in Japan!

    Yesterday was a big day for our campaign to protect dolphins in Japan. It was imperative that we get Japanese media to cover the beginning of the dolphin hunting season—and more importantly, the worldwide opposition to it. And we succeeded!

    We began by bringing all our international volunteers to a plaza near the U.S. Embassy. Our volunteers from around the world were lined up holding flags representing the 151 countries and 1.7 million signatures from this cause list! Several held strands of origami dolphins prepared by artist Peggy Oki, and we also had several inflated dolphin balloons for the cameras. I unfurled our long petition with all of YOUR NAMES—about 15 feet long! TV cameras and print journalists from all the major Tokyo media outlets were there to cover it.

    I told the dozens of reporters that we were here to ask the Obama administration to help end the killing of dolphins. President Obama will be in Japan in November and could talk to the new Japanese Prime Minister about dolphins and mercury. (Note: the Japanese government is in transition as new elections are being held so we were advised that it would not be effective to go to the Fisheries agency).

    I was then escorted by the Tokyo police, with media following along, across the street, up to the U.S. Embassy, along with volunteers Alyson Richards and Melissa Carbonne (who work with Hollywood celebrities in support of environmental issues), NASCAR driver Leilani Munter (who only accepts green sponsors for her winning race cars), and my colleague from Earth Island, Mark J. Palmer.

    In front of the gates of the embassy, we met Mr. Bruce Howard, Counselor for Science, Environment and Health, representing the American ambassador. He accepted our petition, as I urged him to see that it gets to the President.

    Our three volunteers each then talked with Mr. Howard telling him their own stories of why they had come halfway around the world to be here with me in Tokyo. It was an emotional meeting on what is most definitely an emotional day.

    We still have a lot to do, but I feel like we accomplished an important goal—keeping this issue in the spotlight in Japan, reaching key decision makers, and hopefully educating more people in Japan about the atrocities taking place off their shores.

    As for activities in the actual cove, reports are indicating that several dolphins were rounded up, a few were chosen for captivity and the others were released! So a small victory for the dolphins who escaped. The same thing happened last year when we went with cameras and media in tow. You can see that for yourself tonight on the Animal Planet mini-series, BLOOD DOLPHINS. It's directed and co-stars my son Lincoln. We follow up on THE COVE and then also take on other dolphin hotspots like the equally devastating activities in the Solomon Islands. It airs at 9:00 p.m. et/pt on Animal Planet. You can learn more and take action here:

    Earth Island Institute

    Thank you all for your ongoing support. It is making a difference!

    Ric O'Barry
    Campaign Director
    Save Japan Dolphins
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    at first I was kind of like well time to change the channel. I was surfing the net and did not care much for what was on. I got in to it and stayed up a each hour and half to finish watching. I honestly thought mmm dolphin meat but quickly lost the taste of it.

    Being a hunter and fisher men I understand some of it. Sure you kill fish, deer, what every your going to have a mess. This is magnified 1000 times because it is in the water and large fish. I watch the sword fish show and have no problem with it. Just something but how they do the dolphin hunting and such in japan. The fact they lie about the mercury, how they sale it and package it as another fish. At first when they said they sold it as other fish I figured it was the fake crap stuff.

    FIrst time I have ever wanted to join a group or donate to someones cause out side of hunting, guns, diving and oddly enough fishing.

    I see it like craps people catch them and toss them in the weeds. They have their place, sure not really a meal but still they have their place.

    What I found odd was how they was standing there with the fake rock cameras 20 feet away talking about how nice it was whale fishing and how many whales there were in other countries. I was yelling at the camera " they left cause you killed them all"

    When a person hunts they know if they over hunt a area the numbers go down and they loose the number which cause them deer or what ever later.

    You would think the Japanese government would know this

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    We raise and kill cows by the billions. I know a cow isn't a dolphin on many levels but I can understand they haven't drawn the same moral line as well have on that animal. In some places dog is a perfectly fine animal to eat, but here that would bring a wrath like few others. I liked The Cove as a documentary, but I have to lean a bit right to regain some balance when watching something with a left sway. Just as I cannot watch Fox News without leaning left a bit... ok a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straegen View Post
    We raise and kill cows by the billions. I know a cow isn't a dolphin on many levels but I can understand they haven't drawn the same moral line as well have on that animal.
    Cetaceans in general are considered intelligent creatures, some may argue more intelligent than humans even. Not to mention their place in the food chain, much like sharks if their numbers were to diminish it would throw the system out of kilter. Add to that the fact that Japan signed an international treaty which places a ban on commercial fishing of all cetaceans and then it's clear that the need to protect these animals it's not just a moral or cultural stance.
    3/4 of the Earth are covered by water and 1/4 by land. Clearly God intended us to spend 3 times as much time fishing and diving than mowing the lawn. - Wiz

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    thank you bigman241.

    I had been avoiding your many, many posts (2000+ for a newbie) for several reasons, but this thread is a winner.

    Thank you.
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    I dive to find him." Enzo Maiorca

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMWiz View Post
    Cetaceans in general are considered intelligent creatures, some may argue more intelligent than humans even. Not to mention their place in the food chain, much like sharks if their numbers were to diminish it would throw the system out of kilter. Add to that the fact that Japan signed an international treaty which places a ban on commercial fishing of all cetaceans and then it's clear that the need to protect these animals it's not just a moral or cultural stance.
    Not arguing any of your points just pointing out that the fishermen portrayed as being pretty much evil in the movie probably believe dolphins are creatures for harvest. They think of them as we do cows whether or not it is morally right or wrong.

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    I hear you, I don't blame the fishermen... And I use the term loosely as I can hardly call the way they catch them fishing!

    I found ironic the part of the film where they said that they offered to subsidize them if they didn't go out and catch dolphins and the fishermen said, "We would still go out to kill them, they are pests! They are eating all of the fish!"

    We consider lionfish here a pest because of what we have been told and because it sounds reasonably so I have no problems killing them myself. The Japanese fishermen in the film may be believe the same about the dolphins.
    3/4 of the Earth are covered by water and 1/4 by land. Clearly God intended us to spend 3 times as much time fishing and diving than mowing the lawn. - Wiz

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    I think so... I tend to believe the vast majority of people are not evil and I think in this case their fathers, fathers, fathers, father probably did the same thing they are doing so in many respects this is tradition. I hope they stop and the documentary did point out some other troubling points, but like all fact sources I want to see more than one source. In this case, there really is no way to easily verify many of the statements made in the film. I am sure it comes from a good place and I really do hope the succeed in stopping the slaughter... now back to my turkey sticks!

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