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    Quote Originally Posted by Clernix View Post
    Charon just curious are the valves that easy to take on and off? What about the weight issue what does one weigh?
    As Herbdb said - not much weight in a 13 cf with an H2Odyssey - also not expensive ($71.76) (Piston First Stage - RG2V - Marine Scuba Gear Air Systems - Goodrum International) they also sell a pony SPG ($13.80), and both station and yolk fill adapters ($34.50 and $40.25, respectively) the best prices I could find. Add a 13 cf Catalina from Scuba Toys, LeisurePro, or where you can find a good price (about $100) and you are set. Whole rig weighs less than 10# and the valve/1st stage goes in my carry-on and is easy to spin on and off by hand. The extra O rings are a good idea. Haden't thought of that. Gonna get me a bunch. I also have a 27 cf Faber LP steel that I plan on taking along as well. Less than 15" and under 12#. I may only have 1 pair of zip off pants and 2 T's but I will have my equipment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clernix View Post
    Also just pulled up AA website if you travel with a tank they want $150 extra per bag!
    Yeah, and Jet Blue (which I flew to Bonaire) says they are not allowed at all. Guess who the only people that see the inside of your checked bags are? Right - TSA. No airline people ever see the inside of your bags. With the valve removed they are just a very big, very nice water bottle with funny stickers and stamped codes and no cap. Even if somehow (a vanishingly small posibility) an AA person saw the inside of your bag and knew what the pony was, how would they know what you paid for your ticket?
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    Really good info Charon! I think I am going to go with a stadard first stage and second stage. I'll keep an eye out on ST for a discount.

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    If you do not already own a pony bottle you could just buy one when you get there and mail it back home when you are done.

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    I'm a fan of the tank with din valve and a good din reg hooked up to it. That way you are not locked into a single set up, or can switch the reg without dumping any gas.
    Dive Rite has discontiued the RG3000 reg set up as of the end of 2012, and some shops are selling them at deep discount. You could get an RG3 (RG3100 ) first stage with a RG3000 2nd with 40" hose for $199.00 on another on line site. So for around $300.00 total you will be good to go.
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    So, who all uses pony bottles?

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    I do, especially on dives under 90' and definitely on solo dives as a redundant air system. The nice thing about a 40 cuft is that if I use any tank 108cuft or under, I have my 1/2 reserve. (I subscribe to the "500psi and you should be on the surface" thinking.)

    I once saved a man in Wichita just to watch him dive...(inventor)

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    I just got my 30 cft pony tank in the mail. It took me two years but I finally have one. I bought the Zeagle tank straps to go with it. I am using a Flathead V first stage and second. How are you guys mounting the tank. Valve up or down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by navyhmc View Post
    I do, especially on dives under 90' and definitely on solo dives as a redundant air system. The nice thing about a 40 cuft is that if I use any tank 108cuft or under, I have my 1/2 reserve. (I subscribe to the "500psi and you should be on the surface" thinking.)
    Bad on you. The pony is an independant redundant air source and should never be included in your dive plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charon View Post
    As Herbdb said - not much weight in a 13 cf with an H2Odyssey - also not expensive ($71.76) (Piston First Stage - RG2V - Marine Scuba Gear Air Systems - Goodrum International) they also sell a pony SPG ($13.80), and both station and yolk fill adapters ($34.50 and $40.25, respectively) the best prices I could find. Add a 13 cf Catalina from Scuba Toys, LeisurePro, or where you can find a good price (about $100) and you are set. Whole rig weighs less than 10# and the valve/1st stage goes in my carry-on and is easy to spin on and off by hand. The extra O rings are a good idea. Haden't thought of that. Gonna get me a bunch. I also have a 27 cf Faber LP steel that I plan on taking along as well. Less than 15" and under 12#. I may only have 1 pair of zip off pants and 2 T's but I will have my equipment.
    Yeah, and Jet Blue (which I flew to Bonaire) says they are not allowed at all. Guess who the only people that see the inside of your checked bags are? Right - TSA. No airline people ever see the inside of your bags. With the valve removed they are just a very big, very nice water bottle with funny stickers and stamped codes and no cap. Even if somehow (a vanishingly small posibility) an AA person saw the inside of your bag and knew what the pony was, how would they know what you paid for your ticket?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charon View Post
    Bad on you. The pony is an independant redundant air source and should never be included in your dive plan.
    You are indeed correct, the pony should never be used in your dive plan. However, this is not my back up, this is the back up to my reserve. I really didn't word that right, did I?

    On deep dives, I like to have a 1/3 independent back up. But it is in the dive plan: "For this dive, I need 70 cu ft. I have a 108cuft tank so I have a 1/3 reserve, I also have a 40cuft pony as a 1/3 bailout back up " It's NOT "Hey, I need 100cuft for this dive, I've got the pony so I'm good to go!"

    I like slinging my pony when I use one, that way it's right there no matter what. I did mount it to the tank for a few dives and I preferred valve down with a longer lp hose on the reg. It was a lot easier to reach the valve with the valve down and for me, almost impossible to reach with the valve up.

    I once saved a man in Wichita just to watch him dive...(inventor)

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