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    Rescue Class??

    I haven't taken a Dive Class in several years (Well, I guess I took Nitrox last year, but not "really" a dive class). I have always thought that I should do the Rescue Class at some point, but have been too busy diving to fit this in. Today, got a email from a local dive shop offering the class and thought I would look into it. In the back of my mind I thought maybe Rescue would be something I could do over the winter...I mean what I know about it is it is more skills based than diving.

    So, the first thing I noticed is I could take the full class with the dive shop for $295 or if I want to do the elearning along with the checkout portion at the dive shop it's $360. Huhhhh???? What am I missing here?

    The other thing I noticed is that there are a couple open water dives....why? Why can't you do the book work and perform the skills in a pool? Why do I need to go to a quarry or lake to finish the skills? I know I'm missing something, but it appears to me that a pool would work for the skills and something I could do when there is snow and ice covering the local quarries. Help a brother out with the why's!

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    If you think Rescue is only book work with pool checkouts you have the wrong impression. I did rescue through ST in 2007 and TA'd a few classes when I was working on DM.

    Your two days of diving are preceded by a lengthy written test and multiple nights training in the pool. Day 1 of diving is skills performance in open water and Day 2 is "Game Day". Game Day is where the instructors and DMs throw multiple real-world scenarios at you to see how you and your fellow classmates react - individually and as a group. Essentially it is "Game On" and anything and everything can happen. All of your skills will be tested including leadership over other divers. I was amazed at how real it felt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigg_Budd View Post
    If you think Rescue is only book work with pool checkouts you have the wrong impression. I did rescue through ST in 2007 and TA'd a few classes when I was working on DM.

    Your two days of diving are preceded by a lengthy written test and multiple nights training in the pool. Day 1 of diving is skills performance in open water and Day 2 is "Game Day". Game Day is where the instructors and DMs throw multiple real-world scenarios at you to see how you and your fellow classmates react - individually and as a group. Essentially it is "Game On" and anything and everything can happen. All of your skills will be tested including leadership over other divers. I was amazed at how real it felt.
    So true. Its not a class where you read a book and do a dive and you get a certificate like deep water or dry suit. It is much more. Best class I took.

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    I guess that is kind of what I'm saying. There are a lot of skills you have to do - you are not just going out and diving, but from what I have seen at quarries where they are doing them....they could have easily been done in a pool in the middle of winter. I guess I get it and like BB said everybody I have talked to have said it is the best class they have taken.

    Probably better learning the skills in as real conditions as possible. I just hate devoting good diving days to more training and was hoping something I could do when I couldn't do the diving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snagel View Post
    I guess that is kind of what I'm saying. There are a lot of skills you have to do - you are not just going out and diving, but from what I have seen at quarries where they are doing them....they could have easily been done in a pool in the middle of winter. I guess I get it and like BB said everybody I have talked to have said it is the best class they have taken.

    Probably better learning the skills in as real conditions as possible. I just hate devoting good diving days to more training and was hoping something I could do when I couldn't do the diving.

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    If you don't really want to learn the skills, don't take the class. It's kind of pointless to take a class just because you haven't in a while. If you would rather dive, then be happy diving. Diving is all about enjoyment!

    Rescue is one of the classes I want to take and have been putting off for a while. Everyone I have talked to says this is a great class and they really learned a lot from it.
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    I really do want to take the class and I really do want to learn the skills. I was just hoping to try and get it in over the winter where I can still get some dive activities in over a long winter. Please don't misinterpret what I'm saying. I don't just want to take a class to take a class and I don't want to just glide through something to get another card. I've heard great things about the class and everybody says it is the best class they have ever taken. I really don't know what is involved in the class because I haven't taken it. From what I have heard and what I have seen when out diving there isn't really a lot of diving to to the class....it is more learning how to control emergency situations and what to do. Therefore, I was simply just asking to begin with, is this something that could be done in a pool inside. Again, something I could devote time to over the winter and still enjoy the sport of diving. I've watched many classes at the quarry I go to. Most of the time they are floating on the surface near the dock areas calling for pizzas and performing CPR and/or other skills. Again, it all appears to me to be something that does not really need to be done in a quarry. So, I was just asking a question that is outside the box a little. I'm not concerned about the CPR, First Aid, and First Responder Skills because I am a certified first responder and have been for over 20 years. I want to learn how to perform these skills in the water, how to control emergency situations when diving, how to care for my fellow divers, etc. I believe that is what this class is all about and not really a class where you need to be in a huge body of open water to do it. I'm not trying to rewrite the requirements and just was asking if the class can/is in some areas offered in the pool environments as opposed the quarries/lakes/oceans.

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    Snagel, I did my class in Mexico. It turns out I was the only student with three instructors. It was ALL deep water diving. The only pool time we spent was learning how far I could swim in an OOA situation. Even the CPR was different. Rescue breaths in the water is tough, remember you have to get up over the victim to give them a breath. It was the most physically exhausting days of diving I have ever had. My guess is that you were seeing larger classes and since everyone has to perform the skill there was a fair amount of waiting around. While I did miss the opportunity to learn from other peoples questions and mistakes I do think that a small class can be a great thing. I think a rescue class with two or three divers would be perfect. One that focuses on diving is key since, in my mind, that is where most of the accidents would occur.
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    Maybe the scenarios are done in OW because probably a majority of divers worldwide dive in the ocean or other large bodies of water--where conditions can include chop, current, and other conditions not usually found in a quarry. Just a possibility. Yeah, I would think all the skills plus the scenarios could be done in the pool. I recommend people mimic the skills on land (same with the 20 OW skills & DM skills) to at least keep the steps fresh in your mind. Though this is obviously not as good as the real thing. As for the cost -- classroom vs. e learning-- as with the OW course, it would seem the e learning should be less $. Someone explained this once but I can't remember the reason. I recall it has something to do with the % of $ that goes to PADI (or any agency)--I don't belive the shop makes any more if it's e learning.
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