Joe Horn: Guilty or Not Guilty??

[adv_diver1]

I say Not Guilty.

I AM Sick and tired of people stealing other people's stuff. My brother just had a $5000 dirt bike stolen from him.

[Ryanh1801]

Personally I do not think he should be prosecuted. But legally I think he will go to jail and for a while. His biggest mistake was calling 911 and staying on the phone while he acted.

[moosicman]

i do not believe in vigilante justice, so i will not share my opinion about his killing the two scumbag theives, but i will say this, it is black and white: steal and you get whatever is coming (could be said for any crime).

we are not children with minds uncorrupted, we know right and wrong, we just willfully choose the wrong. but if you do that then you also choose the consequences that come along with it. if you don't abide by the rules, then i give you no quarter. it does not depend on circumstance.

right is right and wrong is wrong, no questions asked. if right and wrong DO depend on circumstances (which ultimatly means that truth then becomes relative or, there IS no truth to which you can appeal to if "wronged" by a person or this world) then we cannot say in our, or any society, that there is a moral law to be upheld by its citizens. if there is no moral law then we cannot say there is any more wrong committed by a mass murderer as there is by grandmother gluttonously eating too many cookies. That truth is absolute, that there is a right and a wrong, that there is a moral law: these are a few of the things that make us different from the animals.

[navyhmc]

For starters, I don't think he should be prosecuted. He isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, but his intentions were to protect his neighbors property.

Also, I have no idea what was going on once he tried to stop the theives, it may have been that they attempted to pull weapons on him...but I wasn't there.

A side note to this was apparently some activist group was attempting to make a theatrical media frenzy in Joe Horn's neighborhood and even make the dramatics interview on his property. Well, a large number of Joe Horn supporters were on hand to drown them out as well as ensuring that the media could not overlook their signs of support. How did they drown them out? Yelling "U.S.A" and telling these outsiders to go home. The
Harleys revving didn't hurt either.

[Defman]

This isn't a question of right & wrong, it's question of legal & illegal. Did he do the "right" thing? Maybe. Did he break the law? Probably. From here on it's up to the legal system to sort this out.

[JahJahwarrior]

Originally Posted by Defman

This isn't a question of right & wrong, it's question of legal & illegal. Did he do the "right" thing? Maybe. Did he break the law? Probably. From here on it's up to the legal system to sort this out.

Ok, but let's make sure we apply this to the criminals here too. Did they do the right thing? Definitely not. Did they break the law? Definitely. From here on out, it's for God to sort them out.

Should the legal system review the actions just to make sure that Mr. Horn's actions were justified? Certainly!! But, from what I can gather, my personal opinion is that Mr. Horn should not be charged with murder, and if he is, should not be convicted for it. Did he kill people? Yes. Did they accept that as a possible outcome, when they broke into the house? Yes. Every crime has it's risks.

[Defman]

Originally Posted by JahJahwarrior

Ok, but let's make sure we apply this to the criminals here too. Did they do the right thing? Definitely not. Did they break the law? Definitely. From here on out, it's for God to sort them out.

No no, we're not talking about the criminals anymore, their case is over. No legal case to be heard about their actions or crimes.

This case is probably going to fall into some funky gray areas. While the Texas "Castle Doctrine" law applies to defending ones own home & property, it does not appear to have provisions for defending a neighbor's home. However, it appears that the criminals came onto Mr. Horn's land but were they there to rob him, harm him, or other defendable action?

Again, it's not about what's right or wrong, it about what's legal and not legal. Those two things don't always have much in common.

[mm2002]

I would have done the same thing Mr. Horn did, so consider me guilty as well. If we had more folks like him, the crime rate wouldn't be what it is today. You come around our house, or our neighbors house, stealing from us....you're gonna get some lead in your ass.

[riverrat]

Not Guilty! His acts were honorable if not correct. A persons domain/castle should extend beyond the property line when in a close promity community. I live in the country and if someone trys to steal my deer feeder I'll leave him/her hanging.
But by the letter of the law this acton will open up a can of worms. Hooray for the people! Defend and protect what is yours and what is right. The rights of criminals are too great. Its time for that Sheriff in AZ to take over.

[plot]

I think bush should pardon him becuase deep down we all know he did the right thing.