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Single Tank 27 38.03%
Double Tank 33 46.48%
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Old 07-28-2008, 11:57 AM   #51 (permalink)
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[in other words, send them a note and they will ship you one
This doesn't make a 52 lb RecWing a good single tank wing any more than a 10 speed derailer would make a moped into a good bicycle.
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Hmm.. thats cool.. It looks like it can also help in getting horizontal trim!
It might help compared to a RecWing without the modification, but I'm still VERY sceptical about the modified wing's performance relative to an appropriately sized and shaped wing.
And your point is what?
I posted they would ship a clip to stop the taco effect. Not fix the wing, or make the wing a perfect single tank wing.
It's a wing setup for double. That clip is so that you can dive doubles then switch to single..
My point, in response to the OP's post that the clip made the wing cool, and that it would help with horizontal trim, is that it's still not an optimal solution. The RecWing, in my experience, isn't really much better as a doubles wing than as a singles wing... it's a compromise, and by definition a compromise isn't an ideal approach for either problem. That DiveRite has a way to mitigate some of the problems caused by the compromise doesn't "fix" what I believe is an inherently flawed design. It's good of them to address it, but it still looks like lipstick on a pig to me.
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A That DiveRite has a way to mitigate some of the problems caused by the compromise doesn't "fix" what I believe is an inherently flawed design. It's good of them to address it, but it still looks like lipstick on a pig to me.
I think pigs in bright red lipstick are HOT!!

Guess it's a good thing I did not mention the Nomad wing
Must be one of those DIR things about wings / sidemounts etc --
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A That DiveRite has a way to mitigate some of the problems caused by the compromise doesn't "fix" what I believe is an inherently flawed design. It's good of them to address it, but it still looks like lipstick on a pig to me.
I think pigs in bright red lipstick are HOT!!

Guess it's a good thing I did not mention the Nomad wing
Must be one of those DIR things about wings / sidemounts etc --
Unless I'm recalling incorrectly, Matt's not DIR.

What's wrong with the nomad? And what's wrong with sidemount?
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I dive mostly doubles. The only time I find myself diving singles is on vacation where I don't take them with me. I dive doubles for the redundancy. And diving them pretty much every dive keeps me in practice with them. The other time I use singles is for some pool work or some classes. But I prefer my doubles after getting used to them.

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A That DiveRite has a way to mitigate some of the problems caused by the compromise doesn't "fix" what I believe is an inherently flawed design. It's good of them to address it, but it still looks like lipstick on a pig to me.
I think pigs in bright red lipstick are HOT!!

Guess it's a good thing I did not mention the Nomad wing
Must be one of those DIR things about wings / sidemounts etc --
Unless I'm recalling incorrectly, Matt's not DIR.

What's wrong with the nomad? And what's wrong with sidemount?


Nothing -
That's what I dive -
Transpac with Rec Wing using 120's as SM or 100's doubled up
Also use nomad Wing. + the clips to keep the wings from doing the taco when doing singles on the transpac / recwing

I was just poking the "ant-hill" so to speak. Was just in response to the
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I almost always dive multiple tanks. About the only time I will dive a single is if I grab a pony to clear a rope from a prop.

I dive multiple tanks for redundancy and trim, not for bottom time.

Depending on dive plan, I will dive with double 35s, double 40s, triple 20s, triple 35s, triple 40s or Quad 20s.

I find multiple small tanks to be much more comfortable to dive with than large singles.
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I'm a converted Rec wing user.

The Rec wing is not ideal for singles but it will work OK. You will have to work at managing the air in the BC. It can be a lot for a newer diver to manage. Also, if you swim through tight spaces also be aware the wing may taco higher than the tank and you could possibly snag it.

With my dedicated singles wing (Oxycheq Mach V) I don't even have to think about this stuff.
He is right about the Rec Wing. I have one and it is not ideal for singles. If you bungee the wing (diving singles) to minimize the taco effect you have to be aware that it will trap air. Not a big problem as long as you are aware of it.

I like Joe' s wing. I have been thinking about buying one in the near future.
Rec wing will not taco up and no need to bungie it down if you send a note to DiveRite and tell them you want ;
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Rec & Trek Wing Retainer Hook & Loop System

For years the Rec wing has been our top selling wing. Divers enjoy the versatile design that allows them to dive both double and single tanks. Same with the Trek wing. Occasionally we hear from divers that the Rec and Trek wings “taco” or wrap around the tank when dived with a single tank.

To remedy this, we’ve created Wing Retainer Hook and Loops that affix to the wing and the harness waist belt. For the past 45 days, our Rec and Trek wings have been shipping with the necessary wing tabs and if you are interested, we can send you the rest of the hardware you’ll need to set up this system. Just send an email to us at support@diverite.com along with your full address. Shipping is free in the US. Standard shipping rates apply overseas.
A copy of Wing Retainer Hook and Loop instructions are located in our online library at
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in other words, send them a note and they will ship you one
Dive Rite sent me their Wing Retainer Hook and Loop, after emailing them. I will let you know how it works.
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