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Shark
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I know guys are really not allowed to post here, let alone, start a new thread.
But a question has arisen in the Man Laws area which only the denizens of this area might answer. I know some of you lurk there (I smell traces of Eau du Wetsuit and Chanel No 5mm perfumes). The question: Do you expect your husband, boyfriend, or significant other to read your mind? If so, when you're mad? When you're sad? When you want something from him/her? Secondly, how well does he/she read your mind? Lest you believe me to be flippant, I am not. My wife expects me to read her mind or to "know" what needs to be done around the house. This has been a matter of dissention in the Vercingetorix household. In the Men's Area, the requirement that we be able to read our spouses minds is being discussed. Please discuss the above questions. Thank you for your insight.
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Grouper
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Since you can't seem to stay out of here I'll make a single attempt to answer your question.
Women do not expect others to "read their minds". What we expect is what we give, attention to the subtleties of communication. Women are by design (nature, nurture, heredity?) fairly intuitive, meaning we read others fairly well. This is not a special ability, it it a byproduct of paying attention to detail (facial expression, body language, subtle changes in tone or inflection in speech,...). Most men simply do not care enough to pay close attention to their partners cues, they prefer the "if you want something then just say it" approach that THEY prefer to use. Compromise between the two styles of communication would allow for much less misunderstanding.
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Grouper
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I don't expect anyone to read my mind. My fiance has specifically asked me to tell him when I want or need something. There are times when he knows I am feeling bad and he doesn't know why. Even if it's something he's done, sometimes I tell him (again, no ESP involved) I have to wait until I calm down before I can talk so I can think about what the root of my anger/upset emotion is and how I can explain it to him so that he understands. It's usually just a misunderstanding, or something that's easily resolved. It makes life A WHOLE LOT easier when we're both thinking clearly
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TadPole
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I think that making generalizations about any large group of people is something that rarely works well. There is not one stereotypical thing that ALL women think or that ALL men think.
Do I expect Mr. Stu to be able to read my mind? Heavens no. But do I expect him to work with me as a partner to keep our house clean, our yard neat, our bills paid and our lives fun? Yes, I do. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that when the laundry bins are full, it's time to do some washing; when the dishes are piling up it's time to load the dishwasher; when the dog hair gets so thick we can't find our way around, it's time to vacuum. We are fortunate in our relationship in that we rarely ever get mad at each other. In the unlikely event that one of us does get a bit bent out of shape, we usually find a funny/joking way to bring it up, but we do dicuss it. When I'm sad or when he's sad, it's fairly obvious and we both make an effort to cheer the other while knowing that some things must simply be grieved for and felt sad over, then one moves on. I see a lot of the threads in this forum have similar titles and I know I'm new here but I just wanted to say that not ALL women have lots of shoes, love to shop or are a certain stereotypical way. But, as I believe was concluded on another, similar thread, good communication is the key to a relationship with THIS woman and with most people of either sex and I'm so lucky to have found Mr. Stu, who can and will talk with me about what's on his mind and what's on mine. ![]() I do have to say, though, that the longer we're together, the more we do seem to just "know" what the other wants, be it the last garden tomato or for the other to just clean the bathroom. |
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Barracuda
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I don't expect any one to read my mind, much less a man.
Things that helped while I was married. Hiring some one to come clean every two weeks. I am a horrible house keeper and that stopped some serious tension. We each had our own rooms. Mine was a pit & I kept the door closed. His was an art room for painting, sculpting and the like. If you two have a set list of his/hers chores then do your part (I paid for mine to be done). Ask her to write it down.
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Grouper
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All I want is for my husband to do is acknowledge that I am happy/sad/upset/etc. There is no way for him to know about what until I tell him. You can not expect that kind of thing from people, but if you pay attension to your partner, it is pretty easy to tell if they want you to talk to them, cuddle, or just leave them the heck alone.
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Guppy
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NO, I do not expect my husband to read my mind, because god forbid I should be expected to read his!! (I really don't want to go in there!)
Seriously, if I want or need something I just ask. He can do it, or say no. But, I've never expected him to mysteriously know what I need or want. I don't play games, I hate them, and so does he. As long as we tell each other what we want, and what we expect, we get along just fine!! ![]() |
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Grouper
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In today's world of equality among the sexes it still seems that at home the girls still do the majority of the house work. I blame it all on my Mother-in-law.....
But once in a awhile we women would love to have you guys just look around and see what needs to be done, then do it without looking for praise.... |
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Grouper
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I am lucky he does all the housework at this time, since he was working from home. Now that he is going back into the workfield outside of the home we will go back to sharing the household chores just like we did before. |
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